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WSJ Rumor: NX to "work with" PS4, smartphones, PC

maxcriden

Member
AFAICT these rumours seem to indicate almost the opposite.

Basically a 'Nintendo games server' that you plug in, and can then play Nintendo games at 900p@60 on 'any' device with a screen/controller/wifi connection?

These rumors are a confused mess and not even the original rumor being postulated. Please see other posts in the thread. There's no reason to take either of today's rumors as substantiated, especially this one. You will not be able to plug in the NX to your PS4 and play Nintendo games on it. ☺
 

papo

Member
Yeah so horrible that a game is available to more people.

A Nintendo game you could have played if you were really interested by buying the WiiU?

Yeah I don't want to see Nintendo go down the Sega road. It's even worse people that would root for Nintendo's demise just to get the games on other systems.
 

Schnozberry

Member
I assume this means that Nintendo's new online infrastructure allows for multiplayer experiences with players from PC, PS4, mobile, etc. it's a good business choice of true.
 

Enduin

No bald cap? Lies!
NX is reaching Revolution/ON levels of speculation.

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AndyD

aka andydumi
In what world will Nintendo and Sony allow Nintendo games to be played on your PS4, though? That would make no sense in so many ways.

The point is that it's a "browser game" as far as the receiving device knows. You would get no advantage playing on a PS4, as it's just a display box to the TV like any other device. But this server method could let you play in any room in the house, on any one of many devices, at any time, rather than be tethered to the main TV. It's essentially PS remote play taken to the next level.
 

GooeyHeat

Member
With its current construction this tweet could mean that:
-the things that the NX "works with" are smartphones, PCs, and even PS4 or other competing consoles
or
-the things that the NX "works with" are smartphones and PCs, and the NX also rivals consoles such as the PS4 in some way (most likely power)
While the first meaning is more in line with the way the words are arranged (it's kind of an awkward way to say the second thing), if English isn't this person's first language then they could easily have tripped up a bit and meant something more like the second meaning.
 

Apathy

Member
Every new rumor that comes out for this thing is like a 9 year old coming up with his dream machine. Next up it's going to be an ice cream and pizza maker that you can use when your mom grounds you to your room.
 
My initial reaction the this thread

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But in all seriousness the comment is way to vague to even be speculating. I'm sure the Wii U browser works with the online PS store, but nobody cares about that. It could be something as little as that for all we know.
 
I wish it was some sort of software that scales to the device enabling you to play certain games relative to the power of the device with triple A games being locked to really powerful hardware. But all the rumors so far have pointed to NX being hardware based.
 

spekkeh

Banned
Nintendo is going to leave the hardware business and just become an Internet portal of streaming games. We should have read Nintendo NX phonetically. Nintendo nix. There is no console. They played us like a damn fiddle!
 
What if its android based? An Android based Handheld WII U controller. the controller is the console, it wirelessly attaches to consoles, pcs and smart TVs. it's a content hub, it fits with a digital distrubition platform, wireless connectivity, lots of people playing together.

I loved the idea of the Wii U controller, it just wasn't a genius controller and not a great handheld. if they can nail it- then it could be a great third party accessory that adopts a much larger and accepted ecosystem.


It would also make sense to do it on their own custom android interface.
 

gafneo

Banned
The NX is a graphics booster. It will make any device more powerful. The NX is going to feed cloud memory locally. No load screens, no download waits, faster online play.
 

deadlast

Member
AFAICT these rumours seem to indicate almost the opposite.

Basically a 'Nintendo games server' that you plug in, and can then play Nintendo games at 900p@60 on 'any' device with a screen/controller/wifi connection?

So like a mega wiiu pad that could interface with another device to play on tv/monitor?
 

Corto

Member
Some community features or the storefront accessible from other devices. That's what "works with" will amount to.
 

maxcriden

Member
The point is that it's a "browser game" as far as the receiving device knows. You would get no advantage playing on a PS4, as it's just a display box to the TV like any other device. But this server method could let you play in any room in the house, on any one of many devices, at any time, rather than be tethered to the main TV. It's essentially PS remote play taken to the next level.

But there is no basis for any such speculation. You may as well say NX is a toaster that plays Mario pop-tarts.

So like a mega wiiu pad that could interface with another device to play on tv/monitor?

No. there is no basis for this. You may as well say NX is an ARG where the man on the subway is now Metroid.

What if its android based? An Android based Handheld WII U controller. the controller is the console, it wirelessly attaches to consoles, pcs and smart TVs. it's a content hub, it fits with a digital distrubition platform, wireless connectivity, lots of people playing together.

I loved the idea of the Wii U controller, it just wasn't a genius controller and not a great handheld. if they can nail it- then it could be a great third party accessory that adopts a much larger and accepted ecosystem.


It would also make sense to do it on their own custom android interface.

No. NX will not be playable on other companies' consoles. Or on PC. You may as well say NX is a pine tree in a lone forest and the squirrel living there is now named Mallo, and the acorns he gathers are called Pushmo.
 
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The forthcoming Nintendo NX console “may work with smartphones, PCs and even rival consoles such as PlayStation 4.”

The rumour comes via a tweet from Takashi Mochizuki from the Wall Street Journal, and appears to reference a report from David Gibson, a highly reputable chap who reports on Japanese gaming and tech for Macquarie.

TheSixthAxis

Console? Handheld? Neither?

I don't even know anymore

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Sorry guys, but I'm about to put an end to this WSJ rumor once and for all.


I read every single one of David Gibson's reports.

He monitors a wide array of Japanese companies and suggests to investors whether or not they should buy, sell, or hold on their stocks.

They're very well-written but they're purely speculative in nature. I haven't seen any report of his which contains any insider information.

Here's a screen cap of the latest Nintendo report from him which mentions the NX "working with PS4, smartphones, PC":

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jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights

maxcriden

Member
Sorry guys, but I'm about to put an end to this WSJ rumor once and for all.


I read every single one of David Gibson's reports.

He monitors a wide array of Japanese companies and suggests to investors whether or not they should buy, sell, or hold on their stocks.

They're very well-written but they're purely speculative in nature. I haven't seen any report of his which contains any insider information.

Here's a screen cap from the latest Nintendo report from him which mentions the NX "working with PS4, smartphones, PC":

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NDP_M, could you also comment on that GFK thread for us?

Thank you.
 

Eradicate

Member
Yeah I'm really leaning more and more towards the SCD thing being true. A handheld NX device which can play games on its own, connect over the web/or to a physical device for more computational power.

Home NX device, which handheld can also use, but you can buy SCDs or use your PC etc fo add to Home NX computational power. Download some kind of service, as stated in rumor which will let you allow others to use your systems "power" while you're away, not at home.

will be brilliant.

I think if you're treating the tweet at face value and consider some of these other rumors such as the SCD that this makes sense. The SCD patent is all about leveraging computer resources either physically or like a cloud server thing, scaling the amount of available resources to the tasks your doing while also managing exactly what sorts of tasks are capable of being handled external to the console/handheld.

Now, the question becomes HOW they will use something like the PS4 (no mention of Xbox, but we can't rule it out yet) to gain that power. Why would they allow this also? This could be where that NintendOS comes into play where you can link in your Nintendo account; just download the app on whatever console. The app on consoles/computers/phones doesn't need to have FULL functionality and allow you to play your games on any device, but it could manage your share time (remember the SCD patent) and allow you to gain rewards for leveraging the computing power. (Kind of like that Karma internet router thing.)

However, what is in it for Sony? Just ruminating on it...they get to have a Nintendo audience actively using their console. As long as it's on and running, that increases the chance they may play a game on there too. Nintendo could license out the app and maybe allow special features for the consoles. Say Sony paid Nintendo a little for the app, allowing PS4 owners the ability to download a new character/background/whatever through the NintendOS app that they could then use in either a Nintendo or Sony game. Just some random thoughts, but I think there is a shared benefit there.

How does all this factor into the hardware? Well, I don't full know since the hardware isn't out there yet. (Not much info really is.) There are patents for a console with an optical drive, the SCD, etc., but who really knows! It's always kind of interesting to try and piece things together, regardless of what it ends up being.
 

maxcriden

Member
I think if you're treating the tweet at face value and consider some of these other rumors such as the SCD that this makes sense. The SCD patent is all about leveraging computer resources either physically or like a cloud server thing, scaling the amount of available resources to the tasks your doing while also managing exactly what sorts of tasks are capable of being handled external to the console/handheld.

Now, the question becomes HOW they will use something like the PS4 (no mention of Xbox, but we can't rule it out yet) to gain that power. Why would they allow this also? This could be where that NintendOS comes into play where you can link in your Nintendo account; just download the app on whatever console. The app on consoles/computers/phones doesn't need to have FULL functionality and allow you to play your games on any device, but it could manage your share time (remember the SCD patent) and allow you to gain rewards for leveraging the computing power. (Kind of like that Karma internet router thing.)

However, what is in it for Sony? Just ruminating on it...they get to have a Nintendo audience actively using their console. As long as it's on and running, that increases the chance they may play a game on there too. Nintendo could license out the app and maybe allow special features for the consoles. Say Sony paid Nintendo a little for the app, allowing PS4 owners the ability to download a new character/background/whatever through the NintendOS app that they could then use in either a Nintendo or Sony game. Just some random thoughts, but I think there is a shared benefit there.

How does all this factor into the hardware? Well, I don't full know since the hardware isn't out there yet. (Not much info really is.) There are patents for a console with an optical drive, the SCD, etc., but who really knows! It's always kind of interesting to try and piece things together, regardless of what it ends up being.

This is a very thoughtful and well-considered post, but if you read NDP_Mulcair's post above, you can see there is no way this will happen. You may as well speculate that NX is a psychic hivemind from otherdimensional guests and that we will be playing in a telekinetic cloud.

I hope his assumptions about portable in 2016 and console in 2017 turn out the other way around.

Launching them at the same or different times is a very mysterious proposition. We need the console first here and Japan needs the handheld first there. Perhaps as others have speculated some markets will get one first, some will get the other first, and some will get them simultaneously. It does seem if connectivity is a big feature it might muddy the marketing to not have both out simultaneously, though.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Sorry guys, but I'm about to put an end to this WSJ rumor once and for all.


I read every single one of David Gibson's reports.

He monitors a wide array of Japanese companies and suggests to investors whether or not they should buy, sell, or hold on their stocks.

They're very well-written but they're purely speculative in nature. I haven't seen any report of his which contains any insider information.

Here's a screen cap of the latest Nintendo report from him which mentions the NX "working with PS4, smartphones, PC":

r9vRQTg.png

Oh, so this IS based on the cloud computing and SCD patent.
 
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