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Wkd BO 0325-2716 - Batman vs Superman (or Grindr hookup gone sideways) bests Bunny
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Here is Deadpool vs Guardians and Ant-Man in the 4 territories whose tastes align closest with China's.
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Deadpool Ant-man Guardians of the Galaxy
South Korea $23.7M $20.7M $10.0M
Singapore $4.5M $4.5M $4.7M
Taiwan $12.5M $11.1M ??
Hong Kong $8.0M $7.0M $3.3M
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China :( $105M $96MBasically, I disagree with you.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
In a just world, we would have already gotten Hellboy III.
Actually, wasn't it after Hellboy II that all the Del Toro stuff seemed to get cursed one way or another?
We shoulda had Hellboy III and At the Mountains of Madness.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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MiguelMexMIstery
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Ahhh, that comic book page lol Too bad we got the worst Ant Man instead.
pls
PhoncipleBone
Banned
At least we are getting some Martian Manhunter action on Supergirl.
If BvS fails to reach 1B then WB should be worried about JL not being able to hit that mark. I don't see how adding Flash and Cyborg gives that film a major boost over BvS if the reception with critics is the same. It's a quick turnaround from BvS to JL and many people who didn't like BvS are not going to be jumping to see JL.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
And unless some miracle happens and the movie comes out absolutely amazing, the critics will probably be even more savage since the cast has been all, "We don't make films for critics."
Discotheque
Banned
That was such a huge mistake. They should have just said that they felt critics didn't appreciate it but whatever different strokes
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Regardless of name, realistically BvS is their real "Avengers" equivalent (first time collecting the heroes on-screen, lots of hero v hero action, etc.), so it should have been a bigger even than any "real" Justice League follow-up, as inky said on the previous page. Unless Justice League looks amazing, I can't possibly see it even reaching BvS, especially with the people's overall opinion on the DCCU so far being decidedly mixed. And seeing how Snyder doubled down on everything he has already been criticized for, doesn't really understand people's complaints, and is seemingly outright resentful of the criticism, I don't see him doing anything that will change people's opinions en masse.
WB better hope that SS and Wonder Woman garner positive reviews and do well at the BO. Gives them some positive news and helps the DCEU moving forward.
Wonder Woman has to hit, for one, to build hype towards Justice League, and two, I think it would be embarrassing if WW as the first truly big solo female super hero movie is a failure and then Marvel releases a movie about some random nobody and does much better.
SS might be great but I have a hard time imagining WW being better than a middle of the pack MCU flick. I'm thinking Cap 1 tier, which would be pretty good but wont set the world on fire. It'll probably do better at the BO though, maybe match Ant-Man worldwide.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Rth on BOT says $8.5M for Wednesday. About a 30% drop. Based off of that number, definitely don't see it doing better than $55M for the weekend.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
A Wonder Woman movie on the quality level of The First Avenger would be, easily, the best DC related feature film since 2008.
Wonder Woman at that quality level will likely do a lot more money than Captain America did. Especially since her character is one of the only things escaping the BvS conflagration relatively unharmed.
This 2nd weekend is going to be a bit of a motherfucker for WB, isn't it.
lol TDKR is a better film than The First Avenger, and it's not even close.
No doubt. Am I being overly optimistic then? I dunno, maybe it's just the lack of Snyder behind the lens
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Rounding up & down to the nearest half mil:
70% drop = 50 mil
69% drop = 51.5mil
68% drop = 53mil
67% drop = 55mil (what's being predicted currently)
66% drop = 56.5mil
65% drop = 58mil
64% drop = 60mil
Basically, we're looking at a scenario where a 64% drop weekend-to-weekend is WB breathing a sigh of relief. Which is kinda fucked.
Remember, there is nothing of note opening this weekend, either. Gods Not Dead 2 and Everybody Wants Some might do pretty decently, but they're not seen as competition. Furious 7 last year dropped 59.5%.
Stay wrong, buddy.
70% drop = 50 mil
69% drop = 51.5mil
68% drop = 53mil
67% drop = 55mil (what's being predicted currently)
66% drop = 56.5mil
65% drop = 58mil
64% drop = 60mil
Basically, we're looking at a scenario where a 64% drop weekend-to-weekend is WB breathing a sigh of relief. Which is kinda fucked.
Remember, there is nothing of note opening this weekend, either. Gods Not Dead 2 and Everybody Wants Some might do pretty decently, but they're not seen as competition. Furious 7 last year dropped 59.5%.
Stay wrong, buddy.
Mike Works
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A well-written Rated R Deadpool movie outgrossing a poorly-written PG-13 Batman vs Superman movie would be one of the best things to happen to the superhero genre, if not Hollywood in a while.
I'm not using the age restrictions as an advocacy for more R movies (though that wouldn't be the worst thing)... more to even further hammer home how many obstacles Deadpool would have had to overcome to achieve what it's done.
I'm not using the age restrictions as an advocacy for more R movies (though that wouldn't be the worst thing)... more to even further hammer home how many obstacles Deadpool would have had to overcome to achieve what it's done.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
No, it isn't.
Deadpool would do just fine in China.
He's a funnier and more violent Spider-Man with swords, guns and martial arts.
Deadpool's only hurdle is the Chinese Censorship board.
Hell of an argument you just made, buddy. Thanks for letting me know I shouldn't even bother taking the time to quote you in the future though.
broncobuster
Banned
Dumb query, anybody wonder how the World War I setting could influence Wonder Woman's numbers? Bizarre to set it around a war not many know or care about, in my encounters.
Rewatched First Avenger a few days ago. Still great.
I realized though that it wasn't the montage that ruined the flow of the movie, it was the train hijacking. The montage is actually pretty well put together. The hijack scene...not so much. Shoddy CG and really boring shots with music that is much more exciting than what's on screen.
The Zola interrogation scene right afterwards though is marvelous.
I realized though that it wasn't the montage that ruined the flow of the movie, it was the train hijacking. The montage is actually pretty well put together. The hijack scene...not so much. Shoddy CG and really boring shots with music that is much more exciting than what's on screen.
The Zola interrogation scene right afterwards though is marvelous.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
But you didn't make any more of an argument than he or I did.
"What is that?"
"Steak."
"What's in it?"
"Cow."
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The fuck are you talking about? it's not like you trotted out a particularly winning thesis supported by all sorts of well-reasoned, thoughtful points or anything. You burped up some glib bullshit and I responded in kind.
I mean, if you're gonna catch feelings over being told you're wrong on the internet lemme know and I'll pull the bumpers out from the gutter. Otherwise I'll just mark it zero and we'll move it along. I thought you were just fucking around. Which makes sense, doesn't it? The idea that you'd just be fucking around and not taking something like "stay wrong" so seriously?
It's just movies & bullshit.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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"Schmidt believes he walks in the footsteps of the gods. Only the world itself will satisfy him."
"You do realize that's nuts, don't you?"
"The sanity of the plan is of no consequence."
"And why is that?"
"Because he can do it!"
Zola's delivery of that last line is so damn good
PhoncipleBone
Banned
That just means you need to watch it again.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Time for a rewatch!
it works better on repeat viewings. I think knowing that the montage is coming instead of being surprised/disappointed by it lets it play a little better. Unless you weren't ever disappointed by it (I wasn't) in which case it's just a bunch of fun.
I really do wonder if the plan for Justice League is to somehow make Superman the bad guy. It seems sort of Snyder-ish , to basically turn Superman into Darth Vader, and have Justice League II be his redemption.
CaviarMeths
Member
Man, if BvS is having drops like that this week when a lot of the country is having their spring break, WB must be dreading next week's numbers when everyone is back in school.
Imagine it's 2008 again, Iron Man just did a solid but not phenomenal $585mil, then TDK came out to universal acclaim and became the 4th movie ever to gross a bil. Everyone would call you crazy if you predicted that by 2016, a solo Iron Man movie would outgross a movie featuring Batman, Superman, AND Wonder Woman by a huge margin.
DC needs a fuckin' plan, before cameras roll on JL.
Imagine it's 2008 again, Iron Man just did a solid but not phenomenal $585mil, then TDK came out to universal acclaim and became the 4th movie ever to gross a bil. Everyone would call you crazy if you predicted that by 2016, a solo Iron Man movie would outgross a movie featuring Batman, Superman, AND Wonder Woman by a huge margin.
DC needs a fuckin' plan, before cameras roll on JL.
Ignoring the fact that Cap 1 is obviously better than TDKR, out of all the problems with TDKR (and there are many) it did the unforgivable job of butchering not only the title character but the ending of TDK. You do you tho.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It has nothing to do with "hating" Rises, but just appreciating Captain America more.
I can still like Rises. And I do. I just think Captain America is a better movie in most respects. Certainly more rewatchable.
Ugh I wouldn't put it past them now
No way Snyder doesn't have a mind controlled Clark knocking buildings down again. Count on it.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
I should rewatch CA one of these days. I mean to!... But that allure of the Winter Solider blu-ray is just too strong whenever I sit down to give it another go, and I just end up popping that one in. Such a damn good movie, and its between it and IM1 for my favorite Marvel film. I'd probably give it to Winter Soldier if someone put a gun to my since I find the last act much stronger.
That is my favorite verse from the John Lennon song.
I'm always really confused when people bash the last act of Winter Soldier. I can understand wishing it was more low key and personal like the rest of the movie but that doesn't make what we actually got less well made.
CaviarMeths
Member
If people want a shining example of an otherwise excellent superhero movie that falls apart in the final act, look no further than The Wolverine. One of the best X-Flicks to date, right up until the last 15 or so minutes.
Some are speculating that Terrio's comments about JL being lighter in tone a few weeks ago was a signal that WB realized what they had with BvS and made changes long ago.
I don't really buy that, but at the same time I can't conceive them not knowing about the movies problems through testing and not making changes.
Watch the director's cut! The final act is still bad but markedly less terrible. The assault up the mountain in particular is much better in the director's cut. Plus you get to see ninjas go through a wood chipper.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Oh, it's definitely because it follows the same template of "big stuff goes boom" that every Marvel film has followed since Iron Man 2. I think it's a legitimate complaint, but Winter Soldier at least throws in gravitas with the interactions between Steve and Bucky. Also, everything surrounding that encounter is better done than anything in, say, Thor 2.
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