thomasmahler
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I love my Vita. I'd love this to be true.
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FCC wireless chip filing makes me think Sony will announce new Vita hardware
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Cornbread78
Member
I know, I know.... Unfortunately, the details are so vague that people don't want to believe, lol.
It was. I was just trying to find the report where it was outlined just how much money Sony lost on the Vita, but....... It just never showed up. ; )
I believe with PS+, it's around 10:1 or something ridiculous, but I'm not sure f there is an official attach rate number besides the one they gave us a few years ago.
for sure.
DrROBschiz
Member
So if my understanding is correct the original PS4 has a PIFA antenna and it looks like this?
Is this considered a PIFA antenna? Ive taken apart my launch PS4 and the antenna is quite large
It's totally a new portable - they called it Trinity because you can Carrie it with you.
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More seriously, would buy, day 1. As risky as it is I could see a new Sony handheld potentially doing ok if they go really hard on the pro-consumer user-friendliness aspect with things like microSD and USB Type-C instead of proprietary annoyances. I want more sweet gyro-enabled shooters.
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More seriously, would buy, day 1. As risky as it is I could see a new Sony handheld potentially doing ok if they go really hard on the pro-consumer user-friendliness aspect with things like microSD and USB Type-C instead of proprietary annoyances. I want more sweet gyro-enabled shooters.
Myspcr_Shadow
Member
I'm loving the reactions so far. Full of life!
Standard Sony. The Wifi in their consoles is utter crap, and they continue to skimp out on it.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Just give me something resembling this:
That would be amazing. I liked the PSP but I didn't fall in love with the platform until the PSP go arrived...finally a handheld I could pocket and take around with me easily.
Slightly higher than Gamecube. The results of reaching a small dedicated market.
bobbychalkers
Member
I feel like this has been said a couple of times and Nintendo being screwed never panned out.
Something with a slightly larger screen that can actually get a decent Remote Play signal would be very welcome, in theory. In practice, I'm not sure there will ever be a time in the foreseeable future when I can prioritize purchasing a new Vita over, well, virtually anything else.
I do like mine though.
I do like mine though.
Because any that are true handheld fans now might need an extra few hundred to have both current handhelds. That's money that could've gone to NX games!
Any actual threat is absurd, at best we get serious competition that would be healthy for this slice of te industry.
People play and enjoy systems that don't win in the marketplace, or even spectacularly fail. I know I really liked the Saturn and the Vita's sharing a spot with it.
Toadthemushroom
Member
Mm, the Wi-Fi on my PS3 is so bad that I don't begrudge having to pay the price of a game for the Xbox 360 "n" 5Ghz wireless adapter. Since that still delivers great performance today. Sigh...
DrROBschiz
Member
Looks like the antenna is a dead end and kind of points to the PS4 slim rumors honestly
MaximumSpider
Banned
Needs to be bigger for my taste to be satisfied.Just give me something resembling this:
Napalm_Frank
Member
I play mine every day, if there is an improved model I'll be there day 1.
That does seem more plausible though. I think there'd be more smoke for a new PS handheld, but I just don't see one coming unless they can make PS4 hardware low power/hear enough to work for handheld configuration.
CrunchyFrog
Member
Someone explain to me how the info in the OP means a new Sony handheld called trinity, cause all I see is a patent for a wireless part and someone breaking their NDA
DarkLordMalik
Member
I just don't see Sony following in Microsoft's footsteps and announce two hardwares at a time. That would be stupid. How 'Slim' can they make the PS4 when it is already smaller than Xbox One S.
The Vita is my favorite handheld of all time, a sequel to that would be pretty dope.
PSP, Vita... do you guys ever learn?
DrROBschiz
Member
Plus it doesnt address the japanese market really either
I dunno
Its back to speculation again at this point. Are the Slim rumors true and they are leveraging more globally and competing directly with XBox?
Or are they looking to challenge Nintendo in the portable space with NX
ComputerBlue
Member
Replace the rear touch with proper shoulder buttons and it's day 1. I love the Vita and can't see a future console without a portable remote play counterpart.
Xenoflare
Member
As I vita owner, I bought a lot of games I would otherwise will not buy, at a point of time I'd buy anything that looked interesting. A lot of them include PS Plus games
I don't regret it though, Muramasa is amazing
LimitedRunGames
Member
I'm not going to hold my breath, but I honestly want this to be true and hope it is!
Leona Lewis
Banned
As disappointing as Sony's support for Vita has been, it doesn't make sense to just cede that entire hardware sector to Nintendo after Vita's moderate success in Japan (mainly buttressed by third parties).
Even a slight power boost (enough to support UE4) and extra buttons in a hypothetical PS Vita Plus would at least keep the existing (and very hungry) fanbase happy and maintain some baseline of support from publishers like Namco, K-T, and Sega in Japan and indie devs in the West that would otherwise be all-in on NX.
Even a slight power boost (enough to support UE4) and extra buttons in a hypothetical PS Vita Plus would at least keep the existing (and very hungry) fanbase happy and maintain some baseline of support from publishers like Namco, K-T, and Sega in Japan and indie devs in the West that would otherwise be all-in on NX.
CamHostage
Member
Do you believe in miracles?
As you have found out, yes Sony used PIFAs for the PS4. As I said, they are used almost everywhere. I looked at FCC filings for recent PS4 models and the original, and while the newer reports do state that the WiFi antennas are IFAs now, as far as I can tell the antennas haven't really changed (they were PCB trace antennas from the beginning, can't get cheaper than that). While there is technically a difference between a PIFA and an IFA, all F-antennas tend to be referred to as PIFA, so all Sony really did was to update the description to be more accurate.
That can indeed be considered a PIFA, although the ground plane is quite small compared to the radiator. That is the Bluetooth antenna by the way, there are two more PIFAs that are used for WiFi.So if my understanding is correct the original PS4 has a PIFA antenna and it looks like this?
Is this considered a PIFA antenna? Ive taken apart my launch PS4 and the antenna is quite large
Napalm_Frank
Member
Finfet and stick a external power brick to it while you are at it, you definately can get slimmer than the current PS4.
I'd want them to keep the rear touch for Vita BC at least. They could give it extra shoulder buttons as well - 3DS-style - and make a plug-in grip accessory with more comfortable trigger versions, along with a battery and its own rear touch.
I'm sure Sony want to prevent that. The question is at what cost though.
Still, eating some cost (the whole new portable project in red) to maintain relationship between Japanese third parties healthy makes sense though. Like I said without Vita PS4 would have gotten far less games from Japanese third parties.
CamHostage
Member
Trinity.
Third generation ... or third pillar?
Third generation ... or third pillar?
michaelius
Banned
My 100+ games collection for Vita tells me it's far from failure
outunderthestars
Banned
I would love an updated SKU just for legacy support at this point.
3DS won the fight, Vita won the night, if you get me?
3DS is a lady in the streets but the Vita is a freak in the sheets, if you get me.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
This is crazy.
I love it.
If Sony is actually taking a stand to compete directly with NX as a handheld, that will keep Nintendo from becoming complacent as the only major handheld next gen. I also just really do not want to see Vita never be succeeded, if nothing else because Nintendo is way worse at sales and indie relations it seems.
I think that this information is a little tenuous though. Like did the OP just make up the name? I see no reference to a "Trinity", and this WiFi module could just be for NEO or a slim revision of the PS4. I want to believe though.
Even though I've got a 32gb and 64gb card, I would love to see them reintroduce or succeed the Vita with a micro SD card compatible, L2/R2, L3/R3, high capability WiFi (for better remote play) PS Vita 2.0.
If it is a successor, matching roughly what NX could have, then Sony needs to lock down Persona 5 Portable. Get the contract signed.
I love it.
If Sony is actually taking a stand to compete directly with NX as a handheld, that will keep Nintendo from becoming complacent as the only major handheld next gen. I also just really do not want to see Vita never be succeeded, if nothing else because Nintendo is way worse at sales and indie relations it seems.
I think that this information is a little tenuous though. Like did the OP just make up the name? I see no reference to a "Trinity", and this WiFi module could just be for NEO or a slim revision of the PS4. I want to believe though.
Even though I've got a 32gb and 64gb card, I would love to see them reintroduce or succeed the Vita with a micro SD card compatible, L2/R2, L3/R3, high capability WiFi (for better remote play) PS Vita 2.0.
If it is a successor, matching roughly what NX could have, then Sony needs to lock down Persona 5 Portable. Get the contract signed.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Because we play games, not unit sold.