Sorry, I am just desperately trying to find reasons to post in NX threads.
My avatar contains the secrets to NX. If you stare at it long enough, all will be revealed.
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Macquarie Report on NX: "Coming next week" (Take with a grain of salt)
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My avatar contains the secrets to NX. If you stare at it long enough, all will be revealed.
Alex_Mexico
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Jesus H. Christ Superstar.
A new (for me) NX thread on GAF that's two days old and it's on page 20. I read the OP, can anyone tell me if anything new happened in the last 19 pages since then so I can be like the cool kids and be up to date?
A new (for me) NX thread on GAF that's two days old and it's on page 20. I read the OP, can anyone tell me if anything new happened in the last 19 pages since then so I can be like the cool kids and be up to date?
WiiRevolution1
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Ya know, I thought this was just a joke...but then I looked at your avatar...and I kept looking...until I fell asleep...then remebered the rumored sleep device...then I posted this replay in my dreams...then I realized....NX is literally dreams...and then...I slept...forever...
Davey Cakes
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If you're looking for pure info there's nothing new of value.
It's all been speculative discussion. You know. The usual.
Until Nintendo mentions NX themselves then nothing will be of worth. I check this thread too, just to see the rumblings, but there isn't much to delve into unless you get off from talking about "what if" scenarios.
I'm so hard up, you can't even imagine. I drew NX on my laptop in magic marker so that I can pretend that I'm playing it now. I spliced together old Reggie interviews and made my own fake Nintendo Direct. I'm accepting SMD as if he as a credible source. Help me. My thumbs are about to explode.
You're practically arguing that because it was successful and not extremely expensive NES wasn't a relatively new tech on the market.
Nintendo RAFT.
Smiles and Cries
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I hope most of this is cleared up by this time next week
This waiting ducks
This waiting ducks
These waiting ducks
Hero of Legend
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The Giant
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That would be cheap.
ShadowFox08
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Maybe hit could go hand in hand with the previous rumor about the handheld portion connecting to the tv wirelessly when its close enough. lol. Then again this rumor says its specifically a home console and not some sort of hybrid.
Anyway, take with a grain of salt. lol
chrisPjelly
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*looks at post*
Man, you are getting disparate.
Sorry, I am just desperately trying to find reasons to post in NX threads.
*looks at post*
Man, you all are getting disporate.
I want a Reggie shaped knife jammed into my stomach to fill the black hole that is NX news
OG_Original Gamer
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I would buy this console, at $299.99. I'm a gamer and a Nintendo fan, so why not. I got heart, my balls have dropped. Man up and play with power. This will be the ultimate nostalgic moment in the history of gaming.
Valkyri von Thanatos
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For some reason, this post made me laugh. Maybe it's the faux machismo about it? Like it seems like there are a few non-sequitors here. Maybe that was on purpose though. XD
Smiles and Cries
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BRocknRolla
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Make Nintendo Great Again.
You're just losing track of the original discussion and argument. Which was about how expensive hardware can be. You asked which Nintendo console "ever" cost more than 300 bucks/euro... and due to the discussion being about value in the first place, well, the NES was launched costing more than 300 dollars compared to todays value.
Now, you can beat around the bush, about the tech being "newer" then (or more novel at least), but that doesn't change anything about the initial discusion. Either you were arguing semantics, or you were arguing about the value/cost, in which case you need to take into account inflation. Simple as that. You can argue that the reason why the NES still sold, was due to it still being novel, console hardware as a whole, but that doesn't change the fact that somebody paid a lot more money for a NES in '85, than he will be paying for an NX in 2016 even if it costs over 300.
I see that we're back to the idea that Nintendo has to solve all its problems at once or it shouldn't bother.
Nintendo can't exactly solve its demographic problem if it can't provide an equivalent experience to other hardware makers, so solving that before bringing in hardware parity is useless.
Nintendo can't exactly entice 3rd-parties without parity in hardware to bring its multiplatform projects to it.
Bringing hardware parity, in the interim while they resolve these other issues, does the following:
1) Provides a benefit to Nintendo's internal developers due to fewer hardware restrictions
2) At least begins the process of rebuilding the notions of what Nintendo's brand values are in the minds of consumers
3) Provides 3rd-party developers a platform to bring their multiplat projects to the platform that already align with Nintendo's demographics and weren't released because of hardware parity issues or provides a wider sales audience (see: Sonic Generations, Japanese 3rd-parties in general)
So, if you're going to pick a starting point for fixing this problem, it's probably best to pick the one that stands in the way of resolving all the others and has an immediate short-term benefit on top of that.
But of course, people are stuck in the mindset that if it doesn't immediately resolve the problem in its entirety, it's a completely useless endeavour and they shouldn't even bother. Because THAT is certainly a sure way to deal with a mountain of issues: ALL AT ONCE. *eyeroll*
The lack of NX news it the biggest gaming news of the year
TLZ
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Wrong (since you enjoy doing this a lot). That price wasn't the reason it didn't sell. It was the late to the party tablet idea that brought nothing new to the table and beaten by tablets and smart phones that made that price unnecessarily higher that made it sell poorly, in addition to the shortage of games at first. You're over simplifying it just to prove your point, as usual.
The price has to be in sync with the offering value. You don't even know what the NX is. What if it offers great value for that price and people see it as a great entertainment investment?
I think you are right in saying that the first step to a long-term solution is power parity but, even if it brings some good things in the short term, it also means that you have a higher price. It will affect negatively the sales, especially when you have other two machines with an established userbase and catalogue. Shareholders will complain and accomplishing your long-term objective will be harder.
This can be a circular conflict: even if some of us (including me) want a powerful machine, the general reception of the thing will vary according to price. And we can't forget the rumored specs. I believe it will probably cost $300, but as others have pointed, if the value proposition is good it can get a decent portion of the market at that price.
Even then, we have to consider the hybrid nature of the console. Which, as a gaffer said, means that everyone compromises (in performance, price, ergonomics, battery, portability, or wathever), not that everyone wins.
Father_Brain
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Which of these other issues are they actively working on resolving, and how?
I tried the ps vr yesterday and the graphic seems a lot poor than I through, esp the drive club. I understand it's because the need to generate 90 frame to smooth the experience.
If the NX can support VR somehow, like low end Gear VR. can they somehow make use the technology of the 3ds screens? by this way, the processing power may be not that demanding.
with the rumoured 1) detachable controller, 2) hybrid mode (TV + mobile) and 3) low end vr support (wireless)
Everything seems worth the money and quite attracting to public market
If the NX can support VR somehow, like low end Gear VR. can they somehow make use the technology of the 3ds screens? by this way, the processing power may be not that demanding.
with the rumoured 1) detachable controller, 2) hybrid mode (TV + mobile) and 3) low end vr support (wireless)
Everything seems worth the money and quite attracting to public market
Hero of Legend
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I actually hope the detachable controllers and them being motion-based are true, since that would mean legit Wiimote successors right out the box, and that means Wii-level stuff coming back and maybe even better than before.
For example, hopefully Sega can bring back Sega Bass Fishing, and maybe Samba de Amigo again. They did on Wii, but they didn't reach their full potential, and both could've benefited from Motion+ which came out after both games IIRC. They can also bring back Super Monkey Ball with Banana Blitz's tilting as well which was A LOT of fun.
Hell I would actually like to see a legit Sonic and the Secret Rings 2 even.
For example, hopefully Sega can bring back Sega Bass Fishing, and maybe Samba de Amigo again. They did on Wii, but they didn't reach their full potential, and both could've benefited from Motion+ which came out after both games IIRC. They can also bring back Super Monkey Ball with Banana Blitz's tilting as well which was A LOT of fun.
Hell I would actually like to see a legit Sonic and the Secret Rings 2 even.
There's so many bad games in this post that I hope motion gaming is killed for good
Hero of Legend
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For the sake of... humanity, I'd rather not run into the controller clusterduck that was the Wii/Wii U. Just... no more of that please
Worth what money?
Colonel Mustard
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It was so weird, on paper that list makes me giddy. Hell, Wii also got a port of Jambo Safari of all games! (Olli King with balance board support was sorely missed.)There's so many bad games in this post that I hope motion gaming is killed for good
But for every bad Sega game we got, we also got a Sonic Colors, Ghost Squad, House of the Dead, etc.
Gear VR doesnt work quite like that. It uses 2 images that each eye looks at independantly. Then the brain puts them together into one 3d image. Then it uses your phones internal accelerometer to sense head movement.
The 3DS creates a 3D image within the screen then uses the camera to track the eye movements of the player and positions the 3D image relative to the players eyes.
Not even the Vive or Occulus have eye tracking tech in their first gen headsets.(its comming) but nintendo likely wouldnt want the costs associated with making a VR device of that quality. Even if they had most of the tech inhouse (Eye tracking, 3D screens, Motion Controls ect)
TheMoon
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Dude. No grain of salt needed. Why do you even read this.
Seriously ... at this point there's no excuse to still be posting this nonsense.
CrazedProfessional
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The NX...
NeXt Week
NeXt Week
Dark Cloud
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It's crazy how this will finally be the week
for which the "next week" for NX news will be true since the investors meeting will happen
Cheeseman Battitude
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The NeXt weak console from Nintendo?
JasonUresti
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Don't drink too much after they hit you with a "We won't be talking about the NX at this time" during the investors meeting.
CrazedProfessional
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NVidia is pretty good if the rumours hold true.
An dock works better because Nintendo can just upgrade the dock periodically rather than the hand-held
So you could have say a PS4 Pro dock down the road
You lasted way longer than me, but welcome to the club nonetheless
ShadowFox08
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Plus SSX and Okami, don't forget about Okami.
I'm not losing track of anything. It's just that we disagreeing about the fact that "adjusted with inflation" can be applied automatically while ignoring how the tech prices usually evolve.
You're right when you say that somebody paid more money for a NES in '85 than $300 in 2016. So technically yes, NES was more than $300 adjusted with inflation. Even SNES.
But prices for new gens are almost never calculated as old gen plus inflation. Proven by the fact that after NES Nintendo launched SNES, N64 and Gamecube at $199. Wii launched at $250, but it was again a new tech.
Anyhow, I'm growing tired of discussions about NX, so I think I will slow it down until it's revealed.
There's nothing wrong in that post. I didn't say that the price was the only reason for Wii U failing.
Hero of Legend
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The latter isn't so unlikely, I recall LCGeek, having apparently leaked Wii U's CPU or whatever before, apparently said NX has slightly better CPU than the regular PS4 and XBO.
HeavyMetalLover91
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What's the date of their investor meeting? I also feel like that's the only date worth looking forward to at the moment as far as NX acknowledgment goes.
michaelius
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Jaguar is really pathetic CPU so it's possible that really good ARM core would be faster.
Even if he invented everything i can see most of these things being true.
Dark Cloud
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What's so funny about 10k's rumors? He said he spoke to the developers with the first set in red font.
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