Cmon this is neogaf. It's a small bubble of highly opinionated enthusiasts. It's a fraction of the gaming population. I would hope I don't have to explain thatHuh.
You tell me.
Cmon this is neogaf. It's a small bubble of highly opinionated enthusiasts. It's a fraction of the gaming population. I would hope I don't have to explain thatHuh.
You tell me.
That is a minority in a sea of thousands of games.
The fact of the matter is no large demand, just a vocal minority who is getting annoying at this point.
30fps did not stop R&C PS4 from being a success with the best sales in the series. And it won't going forward.
...thats all?
For someone who loves talking numbers, you have a pretty poor grasp of what 'minority' means.
The best-selling games on a platform are not a minority.
Neither is a vocal group that you hear so often it's "getting annoying."
But SOME games are getting those improvements and I'd argue if you can see the difference between 30/60fps you'll be able to see the difference between 1080/4K.
And doesn't look as good as R and C.
Cmon this is neogaf. It's a small bubble of highly opinionated enthusiasts. It's a fraction of the gaming population. I would hope I don't have to explain that
Did I say they don't? The point is you're trying to use gaf as a metric for growing demand of something which is foolishAnd despite this, developers still gather valuable feedback from opinions shared here.
Can't be because our opinions matter, can it?
Insomniac said in a press release they will no longer make 60fps games, just 30fps with graphics up all the way they can go.
The raging by some posters over their decisions is why i see why devs rarely interact with people who have no idea of their thought process or are just way too invested in the 60FPS or nothing nonsense.
I mean its all right but i was expecting a bit more on those big paragraphs and this new thread, from a first party game.What else did you expect? Better graphics? Where would they get the superior assets? Better FPS? Insomniac don't see FPS as a priority, and the CPU would limit it anyway.
Of course IQ is generally the main priority of Pro going forward, even though devs can do more if they want, that's why the system is marketed towards UHD sets.
That's comforting to read. Only thing I've experienced in "4K"
so far is Netflix and a couple YouTube videos. They're sharp but I'm not sure if I just want to believe it.
Perhaps. R&C is gorgeous as it is, but I think 3D World also achieved a nice balance. It's so freaking smooth and a delight to play. I can't believe it's only 720 lol.
Did I say they don't?
icespide said:The point is you're trying to use gaf as a metric for growing demand of something which is foolish
if that's what you got from my post then I'm done with this topicYou alluded to it...
And now you've said it. Opinions expressed on GAF apparently don't matter. jstevenson and other devs must've missed the memo.
Complete and utter bollocks.
This guy is trolling hard.
if that's what you got from my post then I'm done with this topic
High fiving myself right now for random dropping the game after 2 hours.
Thanks for your work! Can't wait to see this game in HDR, should look incredible.
Edit: Any word if the patch will go live early so we can check out HDR on the regular PS4?
It should be out early but it's clearing format now so fingers crossed
I mean its all right but i was expecting a bit more on those big paragraphs and this new thread, from a first party game.
Maybe, you understand.
So it's safe to assume that when Sony one day shuts off the servers to get these patches, all these disc versions will be non 4k/HDR out of the package?
Well this thread is....
Some stuff - those screens are straight pulls from the frame buffer.
Temporal injection is a different approach ban checkerbording to get to 2160p that gets you AA too. We think it looks better.
The game is designed to run at a locked 30 so making frame rate changes was never in the cards. Sorry
It looks even better in HDR.
The engine tech was developed on our current stuff first and then we ported it back here.
Explain how GTAV sold 70 million copies, a game that iwas often sub-30 fps on consoles.For someone who loves talking numbers, you have a pretty poor grasp of what 'minority' means.
The best-selling games on a platform are not a minority.
Neither is a vocal group that you hear so often it's "getting annoying."
how long must we endure this "no 60fps??!?" nonsense in Pro threads?
I don't get why Insomniac hates 60fps.
I don't get why Insomniac hates 60fps.
Explain how GTAV sold 70 million copies, a game that iwas often sub-30 fps on consoles.
I'll tell you; because the majority of gamers don't give a fuck about 60 fps. Even Ratchet PS4 had the best opening week sales in franchise history with a 30fps game.
PeakPointMatrix said:Your logic is absurd and laughable.
Beyond a miniscule vocal minority, there is no evidence that framerate options on consoles increase sales in a way that matters fuck all to a studio's bottom line. Sorry, but you're talking out of your ass here.Hm? Don't recall saying a vast majority care about 60fps. Only that there are many people who do, and devs who like money should provide an option for them as Nixxes and Team Ninja are doing.
Hm? Don't recall saying a vast majority care about 60fps. Only that there are plenty of people who do, and devs who like money should provide an option for them as Nixxes and Team Ninja are doing.
Glass houses, friend. Your reading comp could use some serious work.
Not 4K? Disappointing.
Not 4K? Disappointing.
I think you could even argue a lot of people do care about fps, they just don't know it. COD, Overwatch, Mario titles...there's a reason these games continue to reign supreme.
After launch, most games are expected to have the Pro support patch on disk.
Also...in regards to your servers question, when that day comes, it will either be when PS4 and Pro are made irrelevant, or Sony goes under. Their servers for these PSN ecosystems are all connected at this point, they can't just 'shut them off'.
It is 4K just not brute force 4K
No. No it's not.
No, he doesn't have a point.
If something isn't natively rendered at a resolution, its not actually that resolution. OnQ keeps pushing 2160pr as legit 4K. It's not.
Now, we can talk about the smart way to use the PS4 Pro's power or how the difference isn't that noticeable compared to native 4K, but if its not, its not. And its especially egregious to claim 2160pr as legit after how much noise this forum has made about the tricks a certain other console had to use to reach 1080p in some cases.
Either you hit the mark or you don't.
Im all about 60fps gaming but if the only thing keeping you from playing a game especially Ratchet and Clank is that its not 60fps than you are actually insane.
No. No it's not.
Well the first part is good news.
I guess what I mean about shutting the servers down is not literally shutting them down, but let's say when PS4 is no longer supported. I can't imagine that they would leave those patches up in perpetuity.