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SFV - Abigail Reveal Trailer

FZW

Member
Wait... thats actually supposed to be the Final Fight character?? but it looks nothing like... nvm.
 
This is a good example of a HUGE character done well.

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That looks f*cking awful. Looks like Knack.

Approximate size comparison....

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Bit silly that he makes Zangief look like a midget. That's a bit too jarring for me. But I don't hate the design.
 

fresquito

Member
Bad argument. Good design would mean that the character is visually appealing, unique and potentially iconic in appearance. Clearly the general audience is divided on this one. Suggesting that people who don't agree with you have "zero artistic knowledge" is a pretentious and weak defense. You don't have to be an artist to identify bad art. With that said, I don't know why people are still pointing out how tiny his head is when it's obviously a deliberate design choice.
You are as wrong as it gets. The criteria for good design can never be being appealing or iconic. A good design fulfills the idea behind what is designed. In this case, a gargantuan, ridiculous, grotesquely brutal fighter with a taste of vintage street gangs. Does this design fits that criteria? Yes, 100%

It's fine disliking the design (it's not my thing either), but calling it bad design is ignorant.
 

Zyrox

Member
I wanna see some actual gameplay of him. Might actually bring me back to SFV for a bit.
His combos better do a crapton of damage. Like Hugo.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
Street Fighter is home to Blanka, Necro, and Twelve, so these "omg what happened to capcom" posts amuse me to no end. Grotesque oddballs are a Street Fighter staple and help give the series its unique charm. Abigail is the second truly zany design in a roster of 26 characters. That's not unreasonable.

I feel with a lot of the ones you mentioned they have a sort of fitting presence while still maintaining the weird/goofy. Abigail is like pushing it to just how far they can take things.
 

Shadoken

Member
You always have to past your opinion as fact, shit is annoying. Here the fact tho, A lot of people hate Remy and he'll never be back in the series. He isn't a cool character like Q that even though he was low tier, has a lot of fans.

While you are right on certain things, Lets take a look at this objectively. For reference In the most recent global SF poll that Capcom did for 25th anniv.
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013...-fighter-favorite-characters-popularity-poll/

1)Yes Agreed Remy is not anywhere as popular as Q. As shown in recent polls.

2) Remy is hardly the least popular/worst character like you are making it out to be.

He placed higher than multiple characters that I feel have a reasonable fanbase like Hugo,Boxer,Abel. And also Higher than character that people seem hyped about like Oro,Necro.
So saying he will never be in SFV is not really assured, Hes not a guranteed character thats for sure.

3) Remy uses martial art Savate , which is always cool to include more martial arts in SF games.

4) I get that there is a lot of hate , because people hate his "Emo" attitude. But lets be real , SF is filled with different tropes. Nothing wrong in adding an Emo one.

I get that character popularity isnt the be all end all , I mean you have a character like Ingrid has a lot of fans. And she follows the Magical Girl trope which isnt really there in SF. But IMO I feel like her design is too different than the cast , she seems like character that would fit in Blazblue or GG than SF.
 

cordy

Banned
You clearly have an agenda and you using YouTube comments and dislikes to back it up is even more hilarious. Nowhere did I say people don't have a right to express their opinion or can't like him but when comments on YouTube don't even discuss the character and start dumb, salty, flame war bullshit, you just know not to take it seriously. YouTube dislikes lol. Bunch of damn 14 year olds on here.

Bruh are you saying that anyone who's making an opinion towards disliking this has an agenda? Fuck outta here with that fanboy shit. Me? I gave Capcom props for the Sakura/Sagat rumor in the other thread and said I'd jump back in if they did that, also gave them props for the Super rumor as well and I apparently have an agenda? Nah, I just call shit like I see it. You got upset at a fact I stated here and you went on to denounce it because you can't take anyone's negative opinion. You've acted this way towards everyone's comments towards this game because you've got a problem with people disliking what you like. Most people in this thread dislike Abigail as well so are you going to denounce that too? What you need to do is take the cape off and realize you look silly going after people's negative opinions towards this game. Don't act like your "well they can say what they want BUT BUT IT'S YOUTUBE SO-" comment is legit when we see through that. That's childish.

Straight up, you need to stop acting like Captain Save-A-Game when it comes to this title and stop trying to get on people's legit opinions for it simply because you don't agree with it. To go along with that you also need to stop shitting on other fighters too because that's the only real agenda coming out of either of us. We know you like SFV but if you gotta shit on a game to bring it up then that's an issue.

You need to sit down and be humble. You ain't Supes lmao.
 

vg260

Member
I think he'd look so much better if they toned down the ridiculous shoulders. I expected a monster, but they overdid it so that he looks absurd from the side. The character art image looks more reasonable.
 

MrCarter

Member
Bruh are you saying that anyone who's making an opinion towards disliking this has an agenda? Fuck outta here with that fanboy shit. Me? I gave Capcom props for the Sakura/Sagat rumor in the other thread and said I'd jump back in if they did that, also gave them props for the Super rumor as well and I apparently have an agenda? Nah, I just call shit like I see it. You got upset at a fact I stated here and you went on to denounce it because you can't take anyone's negative opinion. You've acted this way towards everyone's comments towards this game because you've got a problem with people disliking what you like. Most people in this thread dislike Abigail as well so are you going to denounce that too? What you need to do is take the cape off and realize you look silly going after people's negative opinions towards this game. Don't act like your "well they can say what they want BUT BUT IT'S YOUTUBE SO-" comment is legit when we see through that. That's childish.

Straight up, you need to stop acting like Captain Save-A-Game when it comes to this title and stop trying to get on people's legit opinions for it simply because you don't agree with it. To go along with that you also need to stop shitting on other fighters too because that's the only real agenda coming out of either of us. We know you like SFV but if you gotta shit on a game to bring it up then that's an issue.

You need to sit down and be humble. You ain't Supes lmao.

I explained I don't have an issue with some people not liking his design and explained why I didn't take YouTube dislikes seriously yet you thought to write an entire 3rd grade essay stating otherwise. The captain save-a-game and shitting on other games comments are also very ironic coming from you.
 

Rocwell

Member
I think he'd look so much better if they toned down the ridiculous shoulders. I expected a monster, but they overdid it so that he looks absurd from the side. The character art image looks more reasonable.
Yea his default design looks like a total freak but his alt costumes have different body proportions that are slightly toned down.
 

Wallach

Member
Yea his default design looks like a total freak but his alt costumes have different body proportions that are slightly toned down.

I think they're all using the exact same frame. It's a side effect of how much changing his head affects his overall profile.
 

Pompadour

Member
Why's he albino white???
Based off the concept art, I thought Abigail is supposed to be a black dude? Or maybe just tanned?

That art is just something a guy at Capcom cooks up and usually has little relevance to how they actually look in game (see Akuma). This Abigail's skin tone matches his original FF look.
 

cordy

Banned
I don't mind Remy, I mean I don't really like him but if people do then hey they can like what they like. The 3 series was a weird series in itself that many people love due to a multitude of factors. I love it for the music, vibe, stages and look but others might love it for the gameplay and others might love it for the characters. It just depends on the person really. If they want Remy then hey it's cool with me.

I just want Sakura and Sagat.
 
That looks kinda generic and bad., like he just threw random shit on abigail

As opposed to the random shit they threw on this Abigail that is dumb as shit?

I don't see whats so random. Same skin tone as the original, as well as same color cloths with a change in print. Instead of chains he used rope which makes more sense with the tire. He replaced the dumb ass tires that are on his arms with 1 single, big tire. Overall it actually reminds me of Abigail, unlike whats here in Street Fighter 5, which looks like an entirely new character.

Besides, its a rough sketch.
 

erlim

yes, that talented of a member
It's weird, usually I see people get real mad when a character is too skinny (like Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool), so I thought Gaf would love Abigail. I guess that's just the community side though. I'm surprised the gaming side isn't stoked about Abigail's size though, seems right up neogaf alley.
 

mnz

Unconfirmed Member
It's weird, usually I see people get real mad when a character is too skinny (like Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool), so I thought Gaf would love Abigail. I guess that's just the community side though. I'm surprised the gaming side isn't stoked about Abigail's size though, seems right up neogaf alley.
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It's weird, usually I see people get real mad when a character is too skinny (like Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool), so I thought Gaf would love Abigail. I guess that's just the community side though. I'm surprised the gaming side isn't stoked about Abigail's size though, seems right up neogaf alley.
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