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[EDMIX]

"Propaganda"? Get the fuck out of here lol


Women and minorities being included in an online multiplayer game is not fucking "propaganda". It's not like DICE forces players to play as women or minorities. In fact if you don't play as one yourself then aside from hearing a female soldier yell something every now and then YOU WOULDNT EVEN KNOW THEY ARE IN THE FUCKING GAME.

They wear the same clothes. Use the same weapons. Have the same customization options. And you have people throwing hissy fits as if DICE is personally coming into their houses and kicking their dogs.


The level of pettiness and immaturity that is being put on display over something as simple as including women and minorities in an online first person shooter in 2018 is fucking absurd.


And I'm not sure what you mean when you say "nobody will buy this flop" either. I started playing when early access hit and I invariably find a match within seconds of queuing up for one so the playberbase seems to be doing just fine. It may come as a great shock, but most normal people don't give a crap if there women and minorities in their video games.

Agreed 100%

It would be like saying "oh white male in Uncharted, MUST BE AGENDA" I don't get how they don't realize this argument is a SJW argument. They keep saying how dumb it is that SJW say that stuff, yet go around saying THE SAME ARGUMENT! LOL

 

[Nobody_Important]

You keep stating bullshit. You know it isn't about the "women and minorities" and it has been explained multiple times through this thread, but that wouldn't fit into your nice little narrative you keep trying to construct (and fail to do so). Stop with the disingenuous crap, mate.

Then by all means do tell me what I have missed. Because from where I'm sitting that is exactly what is happening.

 

[Nymphae]

I keep seeing the thread title as Garfield V: The saga continues

Not sure if anyone is keeping up with Garfield in the papers these days, but I'm not sure that's a saga that needs continuing.

 

[Thiagosc777]

"Propaganda"? Get the fuck out of here lol


Women and minorities being included in an online multiplayer game is not fucking "propaganda". It's not like DICE forces players to play as women or minorities. In fact if you don't play as one yourself then aside from hearing a female soldier yell something every now and then YOU WOULDNT EVEN KNOW THEY ARE IN THE FUCKING GAME.

They wear the same clothes. Use the same weapons. Have the same customization options. And you have people throwing hissy fits as if DICE is personally coming into their houses and kicking their dogs.


The level of pettiness and immaturity that is being put on display over something as simple as including women and minorities in an online first person shooter in 2018 is fucking absurd.


And I'm not sure what you mean when you say "nobody will buy this flop" either. I started playing when early access hit and I invariably find a match within seconds of queuing up for one so the playberbase seems to be doing just fine. It may come as a great shock, but most normal people don't give a crap if there women and minorities in their video games.

Yes, this is propaganda:

 

[Nobody_Important]

Yes, this is propaganda:

Video title is "inclusive revisionism"


Yeah I'm sure that's a totally unbiased video that looks at the game objectively.


Also I will say what I said earlier again. Battlefield has NEVER been about historical accuracy or realism. That's never been it's goal. Trying to pretend like that matters now is ridiculous.

 

[Chairman Tickles]

Women and minorities being included in an online multiplayer game is not fucking "propaganda". It's not like DICE forces players to play as women or minorities.

a) It's not just an online game, it's a ww2 game with a single player campaign. If it was just a battle-arena shooter set in fantasy land, nobody would even notice.

b) DICE forces players to play as a mom AND a little girl in missions specifically based on ww2 scenarios that didn't involve women but highly trained commandos. It's propaganda.

c) I didn't see anyone complaining about non europeans in the game. It is well documented that thousands of blacks fought on the allied (and axis) sides during ww2 in Europe and North Africa. One all-african unit even got to march in Paris after the war and got medals. Now the way the game presents them is still propagandistic however, treating them like blacks in the confederate south (having to dig fox holes all day) which is hilariously ahistorical and America-Centric. They fought for France AND Germany, and all soldiers had to dig fox holes. The shovel was the primary weapon of every infantryman in ww2.

They wear the same clothes. Use the same weapons.

It's a ww2 game, they shouldn't be wearing the same uniforms, or using the same weapons. That's the point. If this was another generic fantasy shooter-sure, nobody would care.

Dice got their wish, sales down 40%. That was what they wanted. To exclude people who play this game for the historical flavor. Now they're posting over at resetera patting themselves on the back for excluding 'racists, misogynists and bigots'. Double down little dice, double down. Next game will be down 70% in sales. EA might even close and disband their ass, as they love to do historically.

 

[Thiagosc777]

Video title is "inclusive revisionism"


Yeah I'm sure that's a totally unbiased video that looks at the game objectively.

Ok, so you can't criticize his arguments. Here Dice right now:

 

[Nobody_Important]

Ok, so you can't criticize his arguments. Here Dice right now:

His fucking video begins with "WARNING SPOILERS INVOLUNTARY CELIBACY AND EXTREME AUTISM"


So sorry that I don't take it very seriously after seeing that.

 

[Mojoraisin]

"Propaganda"? Get the fuck out of here lol


Women and minorities being included in an online multiplayer game is not fucking "propaganda". It's not like DICE forces players to play as women or minorities. In fact if you don't play as one yourself then aside from hearing a female soldier yell something every now and then YOU WOULDNT EVEN KNOW THEY ARE IN THE FUCKING GAME.

They wear the same clothes. Use the same weapons. Have the same customization options. And you have people throwing hissy fits as if DICE is personally coming into their houses and kicking their dogs.


The level of pettiness and immaturity that is being put on display over something as simple as including women and minorities in an online first person shooter in 2018 is fucking absurd.


And I'm not sure what you mean when you say "nobody will buy this flop" either. I started playing when early access hit and I invariably find a match within seconds of queuing up for one so the playberbase seems to be doing just fine. It may come as a great shock, but most normal people don't give a crap if there women and minorities in their video games.

If you can't even be bothered to read the thread and legitimate concerns I suggest you get off your high horse and calm down. Most people are upset about real documented historical events being rewritten in single player, as well as the DICE response to the negative rections to that dismal trailer. A woman with a robotic arm and "pew pew pew" all over the place.

A very small minority are upset about what you're mentioning and if they are, it's still fine to have that view as they're factually correct.

This is not an argument you'll win by attacking a straw man or TYPING WITH ALL CAPITAL LETTERS.

Capische?

 

[Ladioss]

I wonder is a future BFV DLC will allow us to play as a Handschar foot solider. Should be so much fun.

It's a shame too because Prey is a really, really good game despite some SJW flavoring (which is fairly mild at the end of the day)

We are at a point where when I see a game praised by a very specific subset of game journalists, I get suspicious and wait 3 or 6 months before considering buying it. I dodged quite a few bullets the past year this way.

 

[Nobody_Important]

A woman with a robotic arm and "pew pew pew" all over the place.

Wait are people seriously still calling a period accurate prosthetic arm a "robot arm"?



Are you kidding me? That complaint was debunked on day 1.

 

[Dunki]

A) Battlefield has never been about historical accuracy. So trying to bring that up now as if it matters


His fucking video begins with "WARNING SPOILERS INVOLUNTARY CELIBACY AND EXTREME AUTISM"


So sorry that I don't take it very seriously after seeing that.

You should watch it. Especially the later part because what they are doing there is painting the french soldiers as utterly racist and stupid while the african soldiers are absolute Superhumans in terms of morals.

If this would have been done in a movie people would be really upset. It is not about having women and minority characters in there it is a problem that they villainize everyone else or makes them totally incompetent

 

[Thiagosc777]

We are at a point where when I see a game praised by a very specific subset of game journalists, I get suspicious and wait 3 or 6 months before considering buying it. I dodged quite a few bullets the past year this way.

Literally the only reason I gave Farcry 5 a chance was because the mainstream media was complaining about the lack of politics in it. If they had praised that game I'd have avoided it.

 

[Thiagosc777]

Wait are people seriously still calling a period accurate prosthetic arm a "robot arm"?



Are you kidding me? That complaint was debunked on day 1.

Is that a period accurate cricket bat with barbed wire?

 

[Mojoraisin]

Wait are people seriously still calling a period accurate prosthetic arm a "robot arm"?



Are you kidding me? That complaint was debunked on day 1.

Wrong choice of words by me. Prosthetic arm is the correct term but it doesn't make the presentation of the game any less ridiculous.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

"or the black soldiers being treated racistly by white male French soldiers." Because historically that is what did actually happen, they are not just showing that for lolz or to pretend as if one side is better then the other, they are simply showing an example of stuff that happened. France over time would be less racist against African American's after their help in WWII, this is not trying to say that ALL FRENCH PEOPLE ARE LIKE THIS.

It would be like getting mad at a white person killing a native American in a period piece or something when that is indeed stuff that happened.

Trying to make it seem as if it's SOLELY to "slam white men" is just silly.

Its like trying to say the film Boyz In The Hood is made to try to "slam black men", yet ignore what the film is about is EXACTLY what was going on in 1992 in LA. Not every damn thing is being made to "slam white men", as even as a African American, its not as if I believe every black gangster film is made to "slam black men" as its just a strange claim with little to really support it. Its why I was ok with the N-word being used in Mafia 3. I don't think the game has a "agenda" or to "slam black men" etc Folks used that word freely at that time, that doesn't mean the developer is out to get me and wants to make me feel bad or anything like that. Its just a massive stretch to really go that far.

The Norwegian thing is just a flat out lie though.

And the problem with the French soldiers is we've already established the devs could give a single shit about historical accuracy, but suddenly accuracy matters when it comes to depicting white men as racist? Too often white men are cast as racist antagonists, if we're supposed to be all about breaking stereotypes then I resent being stereotyped as racist.

We are at a point where when I see a game praised by a very specific subset of game journalists, I get suspicious and wait 3 or 6 months before considering buying it. I dodged quite a few bullets the past year this way.

Well, you can trust me when I say that Prey is an excellent game well worth playing.

A) Battlefield has never been about historical accuracy. So trying to bring that up now as if it matters


His fucking video begins with "WARNING SPOILERS INVOLUNTARY CELIBACY AND EXTREME AUTISM"


So sorry that I don't take it very seriously after seeing that.

Can't take some ribbing? The otherside side sure as shit doesn't hold back with insults like "incels", "manbabies", "basement dwellers" and so on.

"you gotta slam white men at the same time, depicting them as buffoons or racist assholes, I hate that shit. " ??? Why does this bother you so much?

Why wouldn't modern media always portraying white men as buffoons or racist assholes bother me, as a white man?

SJWs just don't want to play fair, it's a double standard, you either treat everyone fairly or you don't, there's not really a middle ground.

 

[Nobody_Important]

Is that a period accurate cricket bat with barbed wire?

Probably. I can't imagine the shape of Cricket bats has changed much over the years.

Wrong choice of words by me. Prosthetic arm is the correct term but it doesn't make the presentation of the game any less ridiculous.

There are 100s of games that center around WW2 that are ridiculous. Somehow I don't see people complaining about those. Isn't that weird?

 

[EDMIX]

You keep stating bullshit. You know it isn't about the "women and minorities" and it has been explained multiple times through this thread, but that wouldn't fit into your nice little narrative you keep trying to construct (and fail to do so). Stop with the disingenuous crap, mate.

I just hate that fucking attitude, modern culture really tries to build women and minorities up, that's fine, but it shouldn't come at the cost of wanting to tear white men down.

So....maybe speak for yourself. That might be how YOU feel, that doesn't mean that others are not simply hating the game just based on women being in it, if a SJW can hate a game JUST cause it has a white male, pretty sure someone can hate a game cause it has a gay person, or woman or person of color etc.

So stop saying "you know it isn't about" when you are not actually 100% of all the people against the game. You can only speak for what you believe and why you personally don't like it. I'd argue its you trying to bend the narrative to fit something.

So I might disagree with someone that some agenda exist against black men or something ,but I won't say something like "you know it isn't about" xyz as someone out there would believe that, doesn't mean I do, doesn't mean I support it, simply means I also understand that SOMEONE would think that. ie Boyz In The Hood is made to "slam" black men claim. I might disagree with it, but I'm not going to pretend as if ME ALONE can confirm 100% no one thinks that.

Stop. man, just think it through. Even if you don't believe it yourself, stop then pretending that NO ONE ELSE DOES. I have no clue why folks go so hard edge on that stuff, relax and just state its what YOU think, not try to speak for everyone as if you know someone doesn't think that way or something.

 

[Closer]

Oh man! I'm so ready to read this thread while laughing at DICE for being that dumb and at all these people crying because a videogame was made that dumb!

I mean, the game goes too far from reality, but it's a videogame, there's no realism, it just needs to be believable.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Probably. I can't imagine the shape of Cricket bats has changed much over the years.



There are 100s of games that center around WW2 that are ridiculous. Somehow I don't see people complaining about those. Isn't that weird?

Are they in the era of Microtransactions?

Believe it or not, thats what started all this.

Fans seen the "customization" in the reveal trailer and thought it was endless microtransactions.

 

[EDMIX]

The Norwegian thing is just a flat out lie though.

And the problem with the French soldiers is we've already established the devs could give a single shit about historical accuracy, but suddenly accuracy matters when it comes to depicting white men as racist? Too often white men are cast as racist antagonists, if we're supposed to be all about breaking stereotypes then I resent being stereotyped as racist.



Well, you can trust me when I say that Prey is an excellent game well worth playing.




Can't take some ribbing? The otherside side sure as shit doesn't hold back with insults like "incels", "manbabies", "basement dwellers" and so on.



Why wouldn't modern media always portraying white men as buffoons or racist assholes bother me, as a white man?

SJWs just don't want to play fair, it's a double standard, you either treat everyone fairly or you don't, there's not really a middle ground.

"Why wouldn't modern media always portraying white men as buffoons or racist assholes bother me, as a white man?
SJWs just don't want to play fair"

Um ok.

"Why wouldn't modern media always portraying black men as buffoons or thug assholes bother me, as a black man?
Alt right just don't want to play fair"


You are arguing the same SJW bs my friend.

So the film Boyz in the Hood doesn't bother me as a black man as I understand the film is not made to PORTRAY all black men, I'm sorry you are unable to get that. Its just a SJW argument, so you may not like that group, but your thinking and attitude is 100% exactly like that group.

Simply replace a few words and you are pretty much the same as them simply arguing about a different demographic.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Whatever happened to all those DICE devs badmouthing Call of Duty years back? Whatever happened to EA/DICE and their head on marketing blitzes? lol

 

[Ladioss]

Well, you can trust me when I say that Prey is an excellent game well worth playing.

Oh, I'm pretty sure you are right. But I have a point to make, and I can wait one year or two before playing it anyway.

 

[Nobody_Important]

Are they in the era of Microtransactions?

Believe it or not, thats what started all this.

Fans seen the "customization" in the reveal trailer and thought it was endless microtransactions.

Oh don't get me wrong I get that reaction 100%. Hell I was one of them. But after actually playing the game it's fairly obvious that yes there will be microtransactions in the game, but all the gear can be unlocked by simply playing the game.

In fact the Rank 20 outfits for each class are fantastic for the Axis and the Allies. And you get them by simply getting to Rank 20 with the class and then completing various challenges.


I do have a shitload of complaints about the game though don't get me wrong. Just not it's inclusion of women and minorities.

 

[V4skunk]

I wonder is a future BFV DLC will allow us to play as a Handschar foot solider. Should be so much fun.



We are at a point where when I see a game praised by a very specific subset of game journalists, I get suspicious and wait 3 or 6 months before considering buying it. I dodged quite a few bullets the past year this way.

I saw resetera meltdown over Valkyria Chronicles 4 and the new Doom. I instantly purchased VC4 and plan on getting Doom on launch.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

I just hate how the western video game industry has been colonized by that creepy, cult like Silicon Valley tech company mindset.

Remember when games were made by gamers for gamers? It's the tone of all this that rubs me the wrong way, it's not enough to have "inclusion", no, they have to gloat about pissing the core audience off.

And it really is a bunch of social engineering, the tech industry believe they are saving the world and one of their tools is presenting the world they wish was real through their media.

Take a look at this "ad" for Youtube's music service, now I don't have a problem with transgender individuals, not at all, but the tone of this video is just so odd, this is not advertising a service, this is Google simply sending you a message about their worldview.



What you see in Battlefield V is the same approach, this is not for your entertainment, this is EA and Dice sending a message about how they wish the world was, I don't care about any of that, just give me a fun video game to play, I hate this pretentious attitude.

And can you please understand why the tone and approach is what bothers me about these things? It's not the surface details of women and minorities or trans people that bothers me, it's the approach and vibe of modern corporate culture.

 

[DonF]

God damn, 2018!

 

[iconmaster]

It's good to see EA going hard after that "socially-aware female fan of the World War II video game genre" market segment. I was starting to wonder.

 

[Ladioss]

I just hate how the western video game industry has been colonized by that creepy, cult like Silicon Valley tech company mindset.

Remember when games were made by gamers for gamers? It's the tone of all this that rubs me the wrong way, it's not enough to have "inclusion", no, they have to gloat about pissing the core audience off.

Nerd culture is getting gentrified by the coastal, elitist and educated bourgeoisie - we have grown too powerful and too culturally significant for our own good.

You will love and you will thank your new masters, peasant, or you will end up in a socialist reeducation death camp with all the others nazis !

 

[MDSLKTR]

Whatever happened to all those DICE devs badmouthing Call of Duty years back? Whatever happened to EA/DICE and their head on marketing blitzes? lol

Their balls dropped. For real the marketing for bf3 was insane back then.

 

[Senhua]

Oh man! I'm so ready to read this thread while laughing at DICE for being that dumb and at all these people crying because a videogame was made that dumb!

I mean, the game goes too far from reality, but it's a videogame, there's no realism, it just needs to be believable.

It's okay for video games too far from reality as long as fun and not to feel samey.
It's boring (for me) for nearly all western made and some Japanese (if they got woke by Sony) made video games have all same political message crammed into them (minorities, feminist, LGBTQ, sexist) just because how some left wing activist feel about the right wing who currently in charge of their nation or some famous movie director got caught for sexual crime but whatever as long as it is fun.

And for some people (a lot by judging from the sales) a woman with a prosthetic arm on the western front lines can break the fun in historical WW2 games.

 

[Lightsbane]

Wrong choice of words by me. Prosthetic arm is the correct term but it doesn't make the presentation of the game any less ridiculous.

I don't really care either way, but what is a woman with a prosthetic arm doing on the front lines of World War II?

Just out of curiosity, really.

 

[woigemok]

I feel bad for war vets that involved in the operation gunnerside and etc because of insulting portrayal by EA/DICE in Battlefield V.
SJW is worse than shit.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Nerd culture is getting gentrified by the coastal, elitist and educated bourgeoisie - we have grown too powerful and too culturally significant for our own good.

You will love and you will thank your new masters, peasant, or you will end up in a socialist reeducation death camp with all the others nazis !

Yup, our culture has been stolen out from under us and these elitist pricks expect us to just roll over and take it, we're the bad guys if we dare complain.

I don't really care either way, but what is a woman with a prosthetic arm doing on the front lines of World War II?

Just out of curiosity, really.

Being a STRONG WAHMAN.

Because who gives a shit about the real life white men who fought and died and suffered for the freedom we enjoy today, why should they be respected and honored? Bogus! No, only women and minorities matter.

It's all about the women and minorities, repeat after me, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities, women and minorities.

Are you a brainwashed SJW drone yet? Do you get it? You don't matter, stand aside for the women and minorities! Rewriting history and flagrantly lying to you is just fine and dandy in the name of those women and minorities!

 

[Dr. Claus]

Then by all means do tell me what I have missed. Because from where I'm sitting that is exactly what is happening.

• Rewriting the Heavy Water missions performed by Norwegian and British operatives into a single Teenage Girl and her Mother.
• Rewriting the French/Senegalese relationships as one far more racist than it was in reality.
• Rewriting the SBS as recruiting prisoners/criminals.
• Game Breaking bugs and glitches
• Developers calling fans "uneducated".
• Developers openly mocking their fans at large scale events.
• Pushing for unauthentic clothing/customization (katanas, prosthetic, bright blue face paints and shabby trench coats) - despite the developers stating:

All that and more which you fully well know, but you are deciding to ignore and instead boil it all down to a disingenuous strawman claim of "Lol they just hate womynz/minorities".

 

[Shifty]

I keep seeing the thread title as Garfield V: The saga continues

Not sure if anyone is keeping up with Garfield in the papers these days, but I'm not sure that's a saga that needs continuing.

Using Punished Garfield to explain away the connection to the MSX games was a bridge too far if you ask me.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Looks like a Dice Developer is catering the crazies:

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Looks like a Dice Developer is catering the crazies:

LOL. One thing's for sure. EA/DICE employees sure love the spotlight.

How often do you see Call of Duty devs gabbing on Twitter or Reddit or forums?

 

[Dr. Claus]

LOL. One thing's for sure. EA/DICE employees sure love the spotlight.

How often do you see Call of Duty devs gabbing on Twitter or Reddit or forums?

They are too busy ensuring they can make fun games.

 

[-MD-]

I don't care about any of this bullshit lol, already sunk 50 hours into multi.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Looks like a Dice Developer is catering the crazies:

Well, for me (as I said in my Devil's Advocate post pages back), I can understand both views or people caring and not caring about the fictitious storylines (which definitely have a SJW slant to them no matter how much EA, DICE or a liberal person wants to pretend it's not).

I'm not a history buff, so I'd had no idea about the heavy water plant mission in real life or French/Senegalese relationships.

For me, this game strives to have a authentic/realistic kind of vibe to it (to me, the same thing, though some people treat those words different).

The game can have whatever fictitious stories it wants in a broad sense (most people aren't military buffs so they wouldn't know any better anyway), but considering this game tries to be believable, let's face it guys..... a mom and 12 year old tag teaming to blow up a water plant, a kid gets thrown into freezing water from a bridge and the same 12 year old girl killing Germans like Arnie and his gang mowing down village rebels in Predator is pretty long winded.

 

[Vtecomega]

Looks like a Dice Developer is catering the crazies:

Skill up has a video on this subject and Era are eating him alive in this thread. https://www.resetera.com/threads/di...field-r-battlefields-goes-up-in-flames.84698/

SkillUp if you didn't know, has been a part of Era community for a while now. These motherfuckers eat their own alive.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Well, for me (as I said in my Devil's Advocate post pages back), I can understand both views or people caring and not caring about the fictitious storylines (which definitely have a SJW slant to them no matter how much EA, DICE or a liberal person wants to pretend it's not).

I'm not a history buff, so I'd had no idea about the heavy water plant mission in real life or French/Senegalese relationships.

For me, this game strives to have a authentic/realistic kind of vibe to it (to me, the same thing, though some people treat those words different).

The game can have whatever fictitious stories it wants in a broad sense (most people aren't military buffs so they wouldn't know any better anyway), but considering this game tries to be believable, let's face it guys..... a mom and 12 year old tag teaming to blow up a water plant, a kid gets thrown into freezing water from a bridge and the same 12 year old girl killing Germans like Arnie and his gang mowing down village rebels in Predator is pretty long winded.

That is the thing. There wouldn't be an issue if they made a fully fictional story. Instead they rewrote major historical events, tried to play it off as "respectful", but having the exact opposite effect. The french soldiers who gave their lives for the Senegalese they fought alongside? Portraying them as complete racists who looked down on them is sickening. You can do a fictional story, but still keep it both engaging and dramatized. Hell, look at Saving Private Ryan which did that damn near perfectly.

Skill up has a video on this subject and Era are eating him alive in this thread. https://www.resetera.com/threads/di...field-r-battlefields-goes-up-in-flames.84698/

SkillUp if you didn't know, has been a part of Era community for a while now. These motherfuckers eat their own alive.

Wow. Yikes. That's a bad look.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

That is the thing. There wouldn't be an issue if they made a fully fictional story. Instead they rewrote major historical events, tried to play it off as "respectful", but having the exact opposite effect. The french soldiers who gave their lives for the Senegalese they fought alongside? Portraying them as complete racists who looked down on them is sickening. You can do a fictional story, but still keep it both engaging and dramatized. Hell, look at Saving Private Ryan which did that damn near perfectly.



Wow. Yikes. That's a bad look.

What happened is EA (to get into the good books from all that Most Hated Company in America from years back) probably thought that taking a WWII game and messing with absurd storylines to be more "Everyone's" game to play, didn't think so many gamers would stand up for for more realistic missions.

When I watched that Krogan video where he recaps all the French/Senegalese racist stuff, and the mother/daughter team killing swarms of Germans and blowing up a submarine with a German Captain standing on it is a pretty silly narrative.

It has nothing to do with women being in shooters. Some shooters give gamers a gender option when you choose characters in MP, and some action games have starring roles being female. Nobody cares in CoD there's female soldiers to pick. That's because CoD has always been a smooth pick up and play game which is about kicking ass, killstreaks and silly stuff like neon weapon skins, predator missiles and RC controlled bombs.

But if EA wants to make BF more real, at least have some believable missions with out the SJW stuff.

 

[haxan7]

*cons

Skill up has a video on this subject and Era are eating him alive in this thread. https://www.resetera.com/threads/di...field-r-battlefields-goes-up-in-flames.84698/

SkillUp if you didn't know, has been a part of Era community for a while now. These motherfuckers eat their own alive.

So many shit-tier, one liner, ass kissing posts in the first page of that thread.

Do those people not have any self respect, or do they just not know any better?

 

[Vtecomega]

*cons

So many shit-tier, one liner, ass kissing posts in the first page of that thread.

Do those people not have any self respect, or do they just not know any better?

Its sickening. Its like they are mass produced from the same factory.

 

[Senhua]

Skill up has a video on this subject and Era are eating him alive in this thread. https://www.resetera.com/threads/di...field-r-battlefields-goes-up-in-flames.84698/

SkillUp if you didn't know, has been a part of Era community for a while now. These motherfuckers eat their own alive.

Honestly, good riddance for him. I do not understand why there are still non leftist people who care to post at "woke" thread in ERA.

 

[Viserio]

*cons

So many shit-tier, one liner, ass kissing posts in the first page of that thread.

Do those people not have any self respect, or do they just not know any better?

They are virtue signaling to be accepted by the hivemind, theres also the fear of speaking out on that forum.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Honestly, good riddance for him. I do not understand why there are still non leftist people who care to post at "woke" thread in ERA.

Poked them on Twitter. Told them to come to NeoGaf if they wanna have some fun and not being bitched at.

 

[EDMIX]

I don't care about any of this bullshit lol, already sunk 50 hours into multi.

Well thats cause you actually play video games for fun.

Most of the folks posting are here are using it as a outlet to basically argue about politics. Its like going to every Gears Of War or Uncharted thread and saying

"all same political message crammed into them (straights, white males, majority) just because how some right wing activist feel about the left wing" =)

So to them, basically anything with about anything must be "agenda", no game can ever have anything in it or its a "agenda"

Gears Of War, oh that is a "alt right agenda"
Uncharted, "alt right agenda"
The Last Of Us...."sjw left agenda"
Forza, GT, Need For Speed, "car agenda," nasty oil companies trying to get us to support their AGENDA, its why I play zero racing games. DAMN IT, I PLAY GAMES TO ESCAPE not have General Motors shoving their AGENDA in my face!
Spyro - "dragon agenda" basically some stupid dragon propaganda to make us care about some fantasy creature so the Dragon party can win mid term elections, NICE TRY! bOyCott!
DMC5 -"disabled agenda" basically made to make us feel sorry about disabled people and to push us to subconsciously support prosthetics by big pharma, WAKE UP PEOPLE!
Yakuza series "Japanese tourism AGENDA"
and many more.

I don't even play games any more, don't want to support agendas, I mean....they look fun, but its best I have zero fun to stop them. /s