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[Krisprolls]

Demon Souls says these Consoles are very capable.

Don't feed the PC troll. PS5 certainly doesn't look weak in Demon's Souls trailer, but recent Nvidia GPU sure do when Legion often runs around 25 fps on recent PCs which cost $2000+ (see Legion PC performance thread).

 

[Senua]

fucked bareback by page turn

 

[geordiemp]

Bet again before you lose

Why try and deceive, everyone finds out anyway.

 

[On Demand]

Xbox fans do this to themselves. So quick to mock PS5 games at a hint of below 4K. PS5 trolling always comes back to bite y’all in the ass.

That said, there’s nothing wrong with non native resolutions at this point. Resolution are so high anyway I would prefer developers not waste GPU resources on native 4K and instead use reconstruction methods to reach 4K and put the extra resources into graphical quality.

 

[Concern]

Like i have said numerous times, these consoles arent powerful enough for ray tracing. It should of been left for the Pro consoles, or PS6/Xbox 5

As expected. And didn't they say the next gen patch isn't even out yet anyway?


Same trolls trying to grasp for a win after all the crow they've been served.

 

[bitbydeath]

Does anyone really buy Ubisoft games anyway?

 

[Senua]

 

[Nikana]

Whatever, y’all needed someone else to come up and tell you so clearly you didn’t notice it did ya?

Literally the first page of the thread.

Watch Dogs: Legion - Xbox Series X Inside Look

Get an exclusive inside look at Watch Dogs: Legion and discover how incredible the game looks on Xbox Series X. Watch Dogs: Legion is now available on Xbox One & Xbox One X. The next gen version of the game will premiere on Xbox Series X, on November 10th.

www.neogaf.com

 

[01011001]

Does anyone really buy Ubisoft games anyway?

I think a lot of people bought Horizon Zero Dawn... oh wait...

 

[Insane Metal]

oops.

 

[Senua]

Does anyone really buy Ubisoft games anyway?

Oh no no one buys Ubisoft games at all

 

[geordiemp]

Amazing.

Not one of these posters came out on the original 'Watchdogs with RT on XSX thread'. Despite bumping their gums for ages about no RT on XSX.

Now it's like a who's who from the next gen thread!

I congratulated the video in the main spec thread - however, I type on a laptop and cant see that level of detail without zooming in - I took the word of ubi. Sometimes you have to put it on the big OLED to see such things which are not obvious on GAF.

My beef is not the consoles, its ubi messaging getting peoples hopes up for consoles. Its not cricket.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

well, youtube compression makes everything look sub 4K to be fair



you can't turn off RT

Really? That's cool I guess.

I'm fine with "slightly above 1440p" or whatever on either console if the RT is good, which I've read it is in Watch Dogs.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Next gen will be 4k60 they said.

 

[Self High Five]

Footage is from Series X, no word on PS5

 

[01011001]

Really? That's cool I guess.

I'm fine with "slightly above 1440p" or whatever on either console if the RT is good, which I've read it is in Watch Dogs.

it looks really good from what we saw so far. there are RT reflections all over the place and the GI looks nice too.

 

[Elias]

And all the morning drama? I'm disappointed, gentlemen.

Valhalla doesn't use any raytracing and the PS5 still can't run it at 4k natively. These situations are not comparable.

 

[Blond]

Native 4k is a meme. With upscaling technology being as advanced as it is (not being noticeable without pixel counting) I would rather the devs use the horsepower of the console for other more important things.

If the series X and Ps5 have their versions of ai upscaling they might as well target 1080p/60 with Ray tracing to get the most out of them since it works so well.

 

[Proelite]

Takes a 3070 / 2080 TI to do native 1440p locked 30 in this game.

Valhalla doesn't use any raytracing and the PS5 still can't run it at 4k natively. These situations are not comparable.

No next gen consoles will be doing native 4k on AC V. It'll be DRS with image reconstruction.

 

[Yoboman]

The rush to post this lol. Higher resolutions thab 1440p with heavy use of ray tracing is impressive for a first go.

1280p upscaled for PS5 I'm betting.

 

[LeftThumbstick]

Beat me to it.

Oh, so now you believe Alex do you? Funny that ain't it blue.

You too, wtf? Seems like you guys are full of shit.

I can't wait to see the back peddling on this one.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Valhalla doesn't use any raytracing and the PS5 still can't run it at 4k natively. These situations are not comparable.

You're still expecting Valhalla to run at native 4K in the X?

 

[Insane Metal]

Well if a 3090 has trouble running the game with RT at 4k30... imagine these consoles... lol.

Probably dynamic res with medium rt settings.

 

[Nikana]

Well if a 3090 has trouble running the game with RT at 4k30... imagine these consoles... lol.

Probably dynamic res with medium rt settings.

I'm gonna go with low RT.

 

[El Sueño]

Valhalla doesn't use any raytracing and the PS5 still can't run it at 4k natively. These situations are not comparable.

Let's see if Horizon 2 overcomes Valhalla in terms of graphical fidelity. Something tells me it will, and it will be at 4k natively. We are talking of Ubisoft here, if I were you I wouldn't use them as a metric of what PS5 can and can't do.

 

[Krisprolls]

Next gen will be 4k60 they said.

Your eyes generally can't see the difference between dynamic 4k and native 4K.

Native 4K is a waste even on PC (which Nvidia acknowledges perfectly with DLSS) and power is generally better used elsewhere.

I'm not sure why people here don't like reconstructed 4K, it's the way to go on any platform. Good thing devs don't listen to GAF.

 

[01011001]

Oh, so now you believe Alex do you? Funny that ain't it blue.

oh it's easy, let me translate his posts for you:
"I LIKE INFORMATION GIVEN THEREFORE I BELIEVE!"
"I DON'T LIKE INFORMATION GIVEN THEREFORE I ACCUSE OF FANBOYISM!"

Your eyes generally can't see the difference between dynamic 4k and native 4K.

Native 4K is a waste even on PC (which Nvidia acknowledges perfectly with DLSS) and power is generally better used elsewhere.

I'm not sure why people don't like reconstructed 4K, it's the way to go on any platform.

I agree (somewhat, you can totally see if a resolution is dynamic in some instances) reconstruction is the way to go. 4K is so high res that the base resolution is high enough so that artifats aren't really a big issue. especially Ubisofts checkerboard implementation in the PS4 pro version of Watch Dogs 2 was really good... it's also an option on PC and manages to even look really good at 1440p! were artifacts should be way more noticable.

the issue is that ubisoft lied in their PR, that is the real kicker here... they should be straight forward about these things and not just say "IT IS 4K!!! LOOK 4K!!! we are so great!"

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Not really bothered about the resolution anyway if it's doing good reconstruction

Let us turn off the fucking raytracing to get 60fps

Ridiculous that they're not doing that

 

[LeftThumbstick]

oh it's easy, let me translate his posts for you:
"I LIKE INFORMATION GIVEN THEREFORE I BELIEVE!"
"I DON'T LIKE INFORMATION GIVEN THEREFORE I ACCUSE OF FANBOYISM!"

They're so full of shit it's unreal how they get away with blatant concern trolling.

 

[Proelite]

I'm gonna go with low RT.

You can't go below medium on WD: L.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Literally the first page of the thread.

Watch Dogs: Legion - Xbox Series X Inside Look

Get an exclusive inside look at Watch Dogs: Legion and discover how incredible the game looks on Xbox Series X. Watch Dogs: Legion is now available on Xbox One & Xbox One X. The next gen version of the game will premiere on Xbox Series X, on November 10th.

www.neogaf.com

I can only hope my eyes keep filtering such tiny imperfections.

 

[BigLee74]

Dynsmic 4k doesn't bother me personally, and the game does look quite impressive.

After having the X1X for the past 3 years, I find 4k not all its cracked up to be. I play on a 55 inch TV, and sit 6 feet away. I genuinely struggle to tell a difference between native 4k, and anything from 1440 up.

Having said all that, despite liking the original WD, WD2 bored me senseless, so this is a hard pass for me anyway.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Your eyes generally can't see the difference between dynamic 4k and native 4K.

Native 4K is a waste even on PC (which Nvidia acknowledges perfectly with DLSS) and power is generally better used elsewhere.

I'm not sure why people here don't like reconstructed 4K, it's the way to go on any platform. Good thing devs don't listen to GAF.

Yes, I agree with this. I just love that gif and to make fun of console wars.

 

[Nikana]

You can't go below medium on WD: L.

Consider me roasted then.

But that's weird they call medium, medium, when it's not the lowest.

 

[Self]

I'm not sure why people don't like reconstructed 4K

It's because they have no clue how it works. None of these kiddos would actually see a difference. But here they are, spouting nonsense.

 

[Yoboman]

Oh, so now you believe Alex do you? Funny that ain't it blue.

You too, wtf? Seems like you guys are full of shit.

I can't wait to see the back peddling on this one.

So eithe

Oh, so now you believe Alex do you? Funny that ain't it blue.

You too, wtf? Seems like you guys are full of shit.

I can't wait to see the back peddling on this one.

You seem to be hoping my posts say something that they don't say

Nice try though

 

[Krisprolls]

the issue is that ubisoft lied in their PR, that is the real kicker here... they should be straight forward about these things and not just say "IT IS 4K!!! LOOK 4K!!! we are so great!"

I don't know, for me it's pretty clear when they say 4K, they mean reconstructed 4K, otherwise they'd say native (they would be proud of it) and that would be a dumb choice anyway.

 

[Raekwon26]

This is embarrassing.

You people don't enjoy playing video games. You just don't.

This pixel counting bullshit is a disgrace.

 

[01011001]

Consider me roasted then.

But that's weird they call medium, medium, when it's not the lowest.

I guess they go by how much is turned down... I also can't stand that tho, when you have options that go up to Very High, others only go to High... some go down to very low, others only to low and others yet again only go down to Medium.

 

[vpance]

Yuck. Next gen releases should have some form of reconstruction to 4K at minimum.

 

[Senua]

This is embarrassing.

You people don't enjoy playing video games. You just don't.

This pixel counting bullshit is a disgrace.

I like moaning about them personally. With a pipe in my boat

 

[LeftThumbstick]

So eithe

You seem to be hoping my posts say something that they don't say

Nice try though

Can you not see the hypocrisy in you baiting people in here over info used from a DF employee when you yourself talk shit about them? I do. Also, are you ok? not sure what happened with your post there.

 

[01011001]

This is embarrassing.

You people don't enjoy playing video games. You just don't.

This pixel counting bullshit is a disgrace.

or some of us are just interested in the makeup of games and like to see how developers optimize and tailor their game to a specific system. it's fun... but those who only do it to console war or only buy games because of it, yeah, that's a bit dumb.

 

[Krisprolls]

Like i have said numerous times, these consoles arent powerful enough for ray tracing. It should of been left for the Pro consoles, or PS6/Xbox 5

If Legion performance thread is anything to go by, PCs aren't either.

 

[OnThePathToWisdom]

Do people really expect $499 consoles to compete with $1500 PCs?

 

[geordiemp]

Valhalla doesn't use any raytracing and the PS5 still can't run it at 4k natively. These situations are not comparable.

A few months ago Valhalla early build was Ps5 and XSX at 4k30 and now we get a ubi blog of 4k30RT on watchdogs, 4k60 on Valhalla.

Ubisoft are ubisoft, wait until you see the results.

 

[yurinka]

What is ps5 resolution and framerate?

As I remember, all the multi games that annuonced their resolution mentioned the same for Series X and PS5. As I remember Ubi mentioned 4K 60 fps for all their other games, but as I remember they didn't feature raytracing. Watchdogs features raytracing, so since it's an open world game it going to be very likely 30 fps and as most games will feature dynamic up to 4K resolution.

Like i have said numerous times, these consoles arent powerful enough for ray tracing. It should of been left for the Pro consoles, or PS6/Xbox 5

Raytracing looks great in many trailers of PS5 gameplays. This game runs like crap on PCs whos GPU alone are more expensive than these consoles. I'd wait to see more RT gameplay on console before talking.

 

[Senua]

Do people really expect $499 consoles to compete with $1500 PCs?

From what I've seen over the last year or so, people expected them to beat $1500 PCs lol.

 

[Nikana]

I guess they go by how much is turned down... I also can't stand that tho, when you have options that go up to Very High, others only go to High... some go down to very low, others only to low and others yet again only go down to Medium.

I mean it makes sense depending on the option/feature, but there has to be a way for better consistency.

 

[RaySoft]

Fuck Ubisoft for lying on camera.

But all the pixels on your 4K TV are filled @ 30fps, aren't they?
Ofc there will be dynamic resolutions, but at these high numbers, you won't notice anyways.