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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights

Paradicia

Member
Slayer Pro is where it's at for me. It's infinity slayer minus the bullshit. I recommend anyone who's having a hard time with the other game types to give it a go. Just went positive 3 matches in a row for the first time in 10 games. It's a much fairer and grounded experience, which is what Halo should be all about.
 

L1NETT

Member
Halo has vaguely CoD like features, better jump to CoD.

I am not a competetive gamer, but I cannot blame them for going to BLOPS 2. If it weren't for COD's core gameplay not being to my taste, I would love to have a go with that ranking system.

Every playlist in Halo 4 has something which "grinds my gears". From glitches to Complex to the Mantis and Banshee to lack of maps to random power weapons to absurd personal drops to rubbish map design to lack of map variety to lack of objective BTB something dilutes the juice of the halo experience to a watered down casual mess.

I want to love Halo 4 MP, but some of the design choices are baffling. Hopefully they are fixed soon, as the core is fantastic. All this surrounding nonsense prevents me from getting at it though :/

Sorry for the -ve.
 

Talents

Banned
I didn't think there'd be this much hostility towards others once H4 was released. I thought most people on here thought the game looked awesome before it was released, although I guess playing and seeing is two different things.

Everyone calllllllmmmmmm down.

take-a-chill-pill.jpg
 
My game keeps glitching. Just went to download a friends file and the UI lost all of its alignment, its just a visual glitch but still.

Just played mission 3 of Spartan Ops episode 2, and one of my marines glitched into the wall... I got the achievement for having marines left alive, I guess I wasn't supposed to lol.
 

Woorloog

Banned
2 threads, are you kidding? Just because you can't stand seeing people with opposing viewpoints doesn't mean their discussion means less than yours.

Well, some people want to hate and complain about this game quite a lot, it seems. That's fine, i really don't care about their opinions and skip them. But that means the thread gets filled by that, interesting discussion getting lost into mass of hate.
Digging past pages of hate to find something interesting gets boring. Especially when the hate is only rehashing what was said on the previous page.
Indeed, if the criticism would be interesting to read i wouldn't mind it, but is not. It is always PV, always instant respawns, always COD-influences, always the problems of Forge. Don't know when was the last time i heard something new.

I don't voice my criticism because it's been all said already. Don't see the point. It won't affect the future anyway.
 

Coux

Neo Member
I didn't think there'd be this much hostility towards others once H4 was released. I thought most people on here thought the game looked awesome before it was released, although I guess playing and seeing is two different things.

Everyone calllllllmmmmmm down.

take-a-chill-pill.jpg

We're going to need a bigger pill...
 

zlatko

Banned
I didn't think there'd be this much hostility towards others once H4 was released. I thought most people on here thought the game looked awesome before it was released, although I guess playing and seeing is two different things.

Everyone calllllllmmmmmm down.

take-a-chill-pill.jpg

I don't get why most of the people complaining about the p vision and shit don't stick to slayer pro. That should rectify most of your problems there.

I find NONE of the abilities OP, and only really think the damn sentry bot needs a boost.(100% worthless)
 

Woorloog

Banned
I don't get why most of the people complaining about the p vision and shit don't stick to slayer pro. That should rectify most of your problems there.

I find NONE of the abilities OP, and only really think the damn sentry bot needs a boost.(100% worthless)

Because they want objective modes as well, no? It is really odd there is no Pro objective modes.

What is the difference between this thread (community lol) and the real deal in the Gaming section proper?

Ideally the Community thread should be about the community and older Halos, and the Halo 4 OT about Halo 4...
 
Crosspost from the other thread, but is Anyone else getting the message "The Halo 4 servers are not available. Please try again later. Matchmaking has switched to using the default playlist." I can still play, but the player count is incredibly low and I can't access Spartan Ops.
 
Did you really trade in the game? If 343 addresses the issues will you buy it back?

I honestly did. If I wasn't so tight on money and could afford to hold onto games I don't play, I would keep it. My main issues.

-Campaign lacks replayability in my honest opinion. Reclaimer is probably the most replayable mission, even then the game funnels you along and prevents you from doing stuff it doesn't want by putting toxic water in your way.
-Prometheans are an absolute bore to fight. They provide very little feedback and just become more of a chore than anything.
-The main story was too tied to outside fiction. I know 343 said they were going to tie outside fiction into the game, but by making outside fiction such key parts of the main story killed the mystery. I basically already knew what was going to happen. which bothered me.
-SpOps is exactly what I did NOT want it to be. Repeat geometry, button pressing, annoying military lingo being said constantly. The CGI is cool at least.
-Multiplayer flat out bores me. I don't think I have ever played a game so well and felt no sense of accomplishment. Hard to really explain.

Like I said, I may come back to it in a few months, only time will tell. For now though, time away from Halo is probably for the best. And I don't think my disappointment, or anyones for that matter should be a laughing matter for some of you. I don't get why you would think it's funny that fans of this series don't like it.
 
Welcome to the Spartan Ops design team! Just fill out this handy form and you'll be cranking out missions in no time!

1. Choose a level:
a. Quarry
b. Sniper Alley
c. Fortress
d. The Refuge
e. The Cauldron
f. The Gate


2. Proceed through the level:
a. Forwards
b. Backwards
c. Forwards... then backwards


3. Select an enemy:
a. Covenant
b. Prometheans
c. Covenant, then Prometheans
d. Prometheans, then Covenant
e. All of the Above


4. Choose a few dialog strings to spice things up. Be sure to circle one of the options in parenthesis:

"We lost contact with the (Spartans/Marines/Eggheads) deployed to this location. Investigate the area and start pushing buttons until you find something to shoot."

"This power source is (on/off) and we need you to turn it back (off/on). I'm placing a waypoint over the (switch/button/egghead corpse) now."

"If you're running low on ammo, you'll have to survive by scavenging for weapons and trying new strategies. Or just get more ammo from the unlimited supply boxes we've scattered about. You could also just respawn, I guess."

"Clear out the remaining (Covenant/Prometheans/power sources) so the dropship can land!"

"Looks like there are only 15 enemies remaining, let me give you a waypoint over each one in case you can't find the huge mob shooting at you."

"Mission failed, Game Over. Ha! Just kidding! You are an immortal being, death cannot stop your inevitable grind towards victory."

"The eggheads are on Reach Requiem. I repeat, the eggheads are on Requiem."


-------
The above was an attempt at humor and is in no way meant to disparage the hardworking developers at 343. I'm enjoying Spartan Ops, even if I have some nitpicky complaints about repetitive objectives and unlimited lives/ammo. Looking forward to Episode 3.
 

Sai-kun

Banned
So do we have any idea how the whole specialization unlock works? I really want Pioneer first. Hopefully I can just jump straight from double EXP into that.

Just watched the Terminals... damn.

Here's how it goes. I hit 50, picked a specialization, and got bumped up to 51.

So with Wetworks, I got:

Level 1 - 4 Foreground emblems
Level 2 - Wetwork Torso
Level 3 - Wetwork Shoulders
Level 4 - Wetwork Helm
Level 5 - Background emblem, DMR (NBL Skin)
Level 6 - Wetwork Visor
Level 7 -
Level 8 -
Level 9 -
Level 10 - Stealth
 
What is the difference between this thread (community lol) and the real deal in the Gaming section proper?

This place is for slrp and downer (unconditional love vs. unconditional hate), the other place is for people who pop in and go "woooooo!" or "boooo!" every once in a while. So basically the same thing.
 

daedalius

Member
Like I've said before it's like you can read my mind. Your complaints are exactly the same complaints I had about the campaign's narrative.

Yes because god forbid others don't agree with you and don't think this is the greatest game since sliced bread. you know I'm so goddamn sick and tired of the attitudes like yours. I really fucking am.

Yeah man, laughable. It almost pisses me off when I see posts like this. Do you get a kick out of passionate Halo fans who don't like the game?

The problem is we've now gone from 'I'm suggesting things in hopes that the game will be better in the future'

to 'abandon all hope ye who enters here, RIP Halo/I Quit, because its so bad'

The 'I Quit' posts are totally unnecessary. Usually when you don't like something enough to where you sell it back, you should really just stop talking about it.

I have criticisms, which I've posted(only to be swept under the torrent of the bitchocalypse). But if I was really so upset with the game to sell it back, I wouldn't be in this thread talking about it.

But hey that's just me, I'm sure there are people here that love to read the 'I quit' stories and the 'well this is garbage because...'

What is the difference between this thread (community lol) and the real deal in the Gaming section proper?

I think the Halo 4 OT proper has less whining.
 
Here's how it goes. I hit 50, picked a specialization, and got bumped up to 51.

So with Wetworks, I got:

Level 1 - 4 Foreground emblems
Level 2 - Wetwork Torso
Level 3 - Wetwork Shoulders
Level 4 - Wetwork Helm
Level 5 - Background emblem, DMR (NBL Skin)
Level 6 - Wetwork Visor
Level 7 -
Level 8 -
Level 9 -
Level 10 - Stealth

No no lol, I meant how they're handling the whole "play before the 20th and get access to any specializations" thing. I guess they're just sending out a code?
 
Unrelated to the current topic but I found this old Reach BR concept I had saved on my laptop and tell me this isn't the sexiest BR you've ever seen,

HaloReachBR.jpg
 

Woorloog

Banned
Unrelated to the current topic but I found this old Reach BR concept I had saved on my laptop and tell me this isn't the sexiest BR you've ever seen,

HaloReachBR.jpg

This is a concept art for Reach DMR, very early, i think. Based of Halo 3 BR Concept.

EDIT actually, don't quote me on this. I'll check my art books.
 
This is a concept art for Reach DMR, very early, i think. Based of Halo 3 BR Concept.

I thought it was before they removed the BR? I remember seeing old footage of Tip of the Spear when you actually played the part with all the vehicles and there was a BR at the time.
 
I just finished the first episode of Spartans Ops in legendary......its somewhat good but dying without penalizations makes the mission really easy even in Solo and most of the missions are the same, just go to point A, then go to point B, destroy/activate a random panel,return for extraction.
 

Sai-kun

Banned
No no lol, I meant how they're handling the whole "play before the 20th and get access to any specializations" thing. I guess they're just sending out a code?

I assume after the 20th, the rest of the specializations will show up, because the only two available for me were Wetworks and Operator.
 

Woorloog

Banned
I thought it was before they removed the BR? I remember seeing old footage of Tip of the Spear when you actually played the part with all the vehicles and there was a BR at the time.
Are you sure? You do know that Bungie prototyped Reach using Halo 3 stuff, models, etc. Same with Halo 3 and Halo 2. Seen that Cortana/Floodgate pic with Halo 2 UI and SMG?
Its in the Halo 3 artbook.

Yeah, in Halo 3 artbook... Odd, i'm sure i've seen this piece labelled as Reach's DMR concept art as well.

EDIT http://www.halopedia.org/File:DMR_Concept.png http://www.halopedia.org/File:HaloReach_-_DMR_Concepts.png
The concept was used as basis for Halo Reach DMR concepts it seems.
 
I thought it was before they removed the BR? I remember seeing old footage of Tip of the Spear when you actually played the part with all the vehicles and there was a BR at the time.

link plz

I need to see this.

No huge, AotCR like level with a shittonne of vehicular action in Reach was the biggest disappointment. For all its faults, Halo 4 at least has "Reclaimer".

And Halo 3 was just perfect. Tsavo Highway, The Ark, The Covenant.
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urk

butthole fishhooking yes
Are you sure? You do know that Bungie prototyped Reach using Halo 3 stuff, models, etc. Same with Halo 3 and Halo 2. Seen that Cortana/Floodgate pic with Halo 2 UI and SMG?


Yeah, in Halo 3 artbook... Odd, i'm sure i've seen this piece labelled as Reach's DMR concept art as well.

EDIT http://www.halopedia.org/File:DMR_Concept.png http://www.halopedia.org/File:HaloReach_-_DMR_Concepts.png
The concept was used as basis for Halo Reach DMR concepts it seems.

Issac posted these to his blog, too.
 
And if it has instant respawns and personal ordnance, anytime someone points out obvious flaws HaloGAF will respond "You haven't played it yet!"

I like instant respawns and personal ordnance.

Why are people who don't like these things (see: non-casuals) playing playlists with these things (see: only Infinity Slayer).
 
It's Crazy King with a couple additions:

-Everyone knows where the next hill will be, and how long til it materializes
-There's 2 hills at once for a bit before the previous hill dies out

Ah yes, I love the timer and how at around 5 seconds you know where the next hill is so you can relocate and keep the action moving without giving too much luck to the stray chap who spawns on the hill.

It's pretty impressive that 343 managed to improve on Oddball, King of the Hill and even Capture the Flag (truth). Sure, they sort of frak'd the dog with Big Team, mostly due to map size (or instant respawn, :lol) and poor netcode, but there are so many other hoppers that are fun now that I don't mind.

I feel like a lot of people are getting burned just by constantly trying to play Big Team as if this was Halo of old. That's the worst mode. Stop it. No wonder you're unhappy.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
It's Crazy King with a couple additions:

-Everyone knows where the next hill will be, and how long til it materializes
-There's 2 hills at once for a bit before the previous hill dies out

You're forgetting the biggest change. The hill timer only goes down when someone is in the hill or there are 5 seconds remaining.
 
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