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The more logical idea would be to have no grinding.
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With the success of Persona 4 on Vita, is Persona 5 on Vita a sure thing?
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The more logical idea would be to have no grinding.
I think going by past trends, Persona 5 is going to be console first and handheld later. I expect it'll be PS360 (with the distinct possibility of a Wii U port, provided it isn't prohibitively expensive -- but this is Atlus after all), followed by handheld versions a few years later. Whether that's a Vita or 3DS version, I don't know.
But I very much doubt P5 is going to be 3DS or Vita day 1.
But I very much doubt P5 is going to be 3DS or Vita day 1.
Why would anybody sell their PS3 for a PS4?
we.are.the.armada
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I imagine that it will be PS360 because:
We've been talking about this a lot in the Persona community here on GAF; we also just recorded a podcast about this topic.
- Atlus already made current gen assets in Gamebryo, then created their own engine based off that
- Atlus also using Phyre Engine (Gravity Rush, Journey, Flower, Demon's Souls, etc)
- Atlus recently won an award at a Playstation event and commented that they were working hard on Persona 5
- large install base
We've been talking about this a lot in the Persona community here on GAF; we also just recorded a podcast about this topic.
Father_Brain
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Depends if it's released this year/early next alongside the PS3/(360?)/(Wii U?) version(s), or if it'd be another enhanced port coming several years after the console versions. I'm pretty doubtful that any Japanese third party larger than NIS/Falcom/Gust/Compile Heart et al. will still be supporting Vita beyond the first half of next year, given current trends.
Mortimer Brewster
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I thought both Catherine and P4A sold horribly on the 360? P5 will defintely debut on the PS3 with a Vita version likely in the future. A 360 version is possible but the dudebros aren't likely to buy the game in enough numbers to justify porting. I think Wii U is out of the question and 3DS unlikely since Atlus seems to like the idea of keeping Persona a Sony franchise while the mainline SMT is a 3DS franchise.
Some people don't want 5 consoles at one time /shrug
Atlus -stupid move- doesn't make Persona games multi...
Shin Megami go to Nintendo
Persona go to PlayStation
That's the only reason why I have a 3DSXL.
DimmuBurgerKing
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As much as I loved P4G, I hope not. I want another console Persona to play on my television. If it ends up PS3/Vita, that's okay, even if I'd prefer PS4 at this point.
Where is Persona 2: Eternal Punishment? Surely it didn't sell badly?
Every Persona game in Japan (in case anyone else asks for another one...):
{1996-09-20} [PS1] Persona - 391,556
{1997-06-27} [PS1] Persona [PlayStation the Best] - 17,935 **
{2003-01-23} [PS1] Persona [PSOne Books] - ???
{2009-04-29} [PSP] Persona - 156,205
{2010-06-03} [PSP] Persona [Atlus Best Collection] - ???
{2010-09-16} [PSP] Persona [Best Selection] - ???
{1999-06-24} [PS1] Persona 2: Innocent Sin - 274,798
{2000-09-14} [PS1] Persona 2: Innocent Sin [PlayStation the Best] - 3,470 **
{2011-04-14} [PSP] Persona 2: Innocent Sin - 102,714
{2000-06-29} [PS1] Persona 2: Eternal Punishment - 200,103
{2011-11-22} [PS1] Persona 2: Eternal Punishment [Atlus Best Selection] - ???
{2012-05-17} [PSP] Persona 2: Eternal Punishment - 35,920 **
{2006-07-13} [PS2] Persona 3 - 210,319
{2007-04-19} [PS2] Persona 3 FES - 165,471
{2010-08-05} [PS2] Persona 3 FES [PlayStation 2 the Best] - 7,773 **
{2009-11-01} [PSP] Persona 3 Portable - 208,877
{2011-08-25} [PSP] Persona 3 Portable [PSP the Best] - 39,233 **
{2008-07-10} [PS2] Persona 4 - 294,214
{2010-08-05} [PS2] Persona 4 [PlayStation 2 the Best] - 43,981 **
{2012-06-14} [PSV] Persona 4 Golden - 233,523
{2012-07-26} [PS3] Persona 4 Arena - 184,997
{2012-07-26} [360] Persona 4 Arena - 11,498
??? = Unknown sales
** = No updated sales (for some is just the first week)
Source: Famitsu
Cornbread78
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please yes, P4G was awesome!
throwawayname
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Are the Persona games usually revealed during E3 or TGS time?
Mystic_Wanderer
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Some of these "in a few years" responses are hilarious. Last release was '08 - so they're going to wait 7 or 8 years in between games?
Thanks, I didn't know that numbers. I see Persona 4 Golden sold very well on Japan. The game deserve it... the best of the console by far.
Mr_Antimatter
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Given the sales on the vita for P4G, i'd say its a given. Atlas knows the fanbase is there, and that they will buy it.
Honestly, if it was on ps3/vita same day, i'd go vita. The pause/resume on the psp/vita is the best thing ever for that series, makes dungeons so much more manageable.
Honestly, if it was on ps3/vita same day, i'd go vita. The pause/resume on the psp/vita is the best thing ever for that series, makes dungeons so much more manageable.
lunchwithyuzo
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Well, it's more like Persona for PlayStation (and maybe Xbox) and everything else (mainline SMT, Devil Survivor, Devil Summoner) for Nintendo.
It's because Nintendo seems to be a good terms with Atlus considering the Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem team up so that means a Wii U version is now a viable platform for P5.
And history doesn't really matter since Dragon Quest went to PS1 and PS2, Final Fantasy went to PS and Xbox 360, DMC went to Xbox 360, Kingdom Hearts and Monster Hunter went to Nintendo, etc.
Guess we'll have to wait and see when it's officially announced.
It would be revealed at TGS before E3, seeing as they'd announce the Japanese version first.
I would assume that at least. I didn't play persona until after P4 so I haven't been following the series long enough to know history
Mortimer Brewster
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Well anything is possible now that Nintendo has started to moneyhat franchises. Still I think Persona will remain a Playstation brand exclusive. But I wouldn't be surprised in Wii U gets a mainline SMT game at some point.
lunchwithyuzo
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Persona already went to 360 once with P4 Arena (and the Persona Universe before that with Catherine), I don't really see why it wouldn't again if Atlus is looking worldwide.
Wii U is definite no though imo. P5 has been in development a LONG time, and I'm sure the platforms have been settled for awhile now (most likely PS360). I think Atlus' future on Wii U hinges on how SMTxFE Works out and that game's probably at least a year away still.
And I still think that "Persona 3DS" will happen, but it'll probably be a spinoff or old port/remake (P3D?). I can see Vita getting a later expanded P5 release too, though I also thought Vita would get P4A and that hasn't seemed to happen for whatever reason? :/
Wii U is definite no though imo. P5 has been in development a LONG time, and I'm sure the platforms have been settled for awhile now (most likely PS360). I think Atlus' future on Wii U hinges on how SMTxFE Works out and that game's probably at least a year away still.
And I still think that "Persona 3DS" will happen, but it'll probably be a spinoff or old port/remake (P3D?). I can see Vita getting a later expanded P5 release too, though I also thought Vita would get P4A and that hasn't seemed to happen for whatever reason? :/
Only based on sale numbers, 3DS is the more likely thing.
Dragon Quest returned to Nintendo, Final Fantasy will probably get a bigger Sony focus nextgen, and Shin Megami is coming to Nintendo (Shin Megami Tensei IV, the Fire Emblem spinoff, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked, Soul Hackers).
Compare the install bases, compare the success other ports like DQ 7 are having. Its a different league.
Dragon Quest returned to Nintendo, Final Fantasy will probably get a bigger Sony focus nextgen, and Shin Megami is coming to Nintendo (Shin Megami Tensei IV, the Fire Emblem spinoff, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked, Soul Hackers).
Compare the install bases, compare the success other ports like DQ 7 are having. Its a different league.
BronsonLee
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WAT
Psycho_Mantis
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Thanks for correcting me. Where did you get the numbers for P1 and P2? I just typed in Persona in Garaph lol.
3DS will be platform least likely it will be on.
Dragon quest goes to the console which has the largest install base.
SMT has been with Nintendo for quite some time now.
I guess the console with the largest install base should get all the games right and the games will all sell the best that console.
HalfBakedProphet
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you're being purposefully dense. With PS1 re-releases, they were clearly going after the established fanbase who bought P3P on PSP, it makes sense.
it is the point. Putting those games on nintendo hardware would require new game development for the bottom screen or pretty much impossible (in the case of P3P on DS). You're living in a fantasy land where Atlus just loves Sony so much they'd never dream of putting those games on other hardware. I'm saying they would have been if it there would have been a easy way to port those games over. P4A and Catherine on 360 which are, shock!, not Sony.
buddha0991
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^wanna trade?
Ps3/360/vita is the way to go here
BTW WHY did Eternal Punishment PSP bomb SO hard compared to Innocent Sin PSP!?
Ps3/360/vita is the way to go here
BTW WHY did Eternal Punishment PSP bomb SO hard compared to Innocent Sin PSP!?
Domstercool
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Maybe because they released it a mere month before P4G and people were more excited for the latter?
Then, once again, you're basing your claim on nothing. And I'm not forgetting anything: a vastly higher install base doesn't help niche series like SMT.
Fail? No. Do as well as it did on the PSP? I wouldn't hold my breath.
After Arena I really wouldn't be surprised to see 4-2 instead of 5
Is that so?
Sammy Samusu
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There are maaaany reasons why P4G sold that well.
But P5 is definitely coming to Vita, probably not the original game though, yall might have to wait for the Portable/Golden port, as many have already mentioned in this thread.
But P5 is definitely coming to Vita, probably not the original game though, yall might have to wait for the Portable/Golden port, as many have already mentioned in this thread.
Well for now yes, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem.
buddha0991
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It's a tragedy to be honest. EP was a way better balanced port than IS at any rate.
Yeah I was really hoping that we'd get EP PSP but after it underperformed in Japan ...
Sigh. Guess I'll hope some fan translates one day
That would be such a disappointment.
Supermanisdead
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SMT was basically Nintendo exclusive series on the DS while PSP got Personas. And that pattern is probably going to continue this generation. It's not any kind of indication that WiiU will get Persona just because of SMTxFE.
Canis lupus
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P1 remake came out before P3P. First you were saying DS didn't the Persona games because it was incapable of running PS2 ports while actually only 1 of them was a PS2 port, and it was not the first Persona to hit the PSP. Now the games didn't come to DS due to too much work, effort, 2nd screen yada yada.
I never implied Atlus was putting those games on Sony handhelds due to platform favoritism. You don't know what you're talking about. This discussion is going nowhere,
That's my bet too. The only real question in my head is whether there will be an Xbox 360 version.
HalfBakedProphet
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I'd be OK with this.
Shin Megami Tensei has found its home on Xbox.
Perhaps I should of just said 3DS then?