Alcoholikaust
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kinect is STILL over 100 dollars, isn't this thing only being sold with it included?
SMGDH Microsoft
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[RUMOR] Paul Thurrott: Xbox 720 is expensive: $500 or $300 for sub model, 5/21 Unveil
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kinect is STILL over 100 dollars, isn't this thing only being sold with it included?
SMGDH Microsoft
SniperHunter
Banned
You mean Giggaton
I lost my job last year so i have been watching a lot of playthroughs on Youtube due to the lack of money and pretty much all the youtubers i watch actively hunt out achievements and get all 'giddy' when the achievement icon pops up on screen.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
So you think there will be a multi-tiered approach then?
Because that rumored set-top box functionality will have zero use outside the US.
Impeccable
Member
Do you join in with their delight?
I was given a Kinect and I don't use it. That's pretty bad when there's nothing compelling someone to use an item that was free. I think it's cool for tertiary commands, etc. but as a primary input method? No thanks...
zomgbbqftw
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That final figure includes everything but shipping and packaging. I edited in estimates for accessories and other costs afterwards.
michaelius
Banned
radeon 7770 inside
8GB of DDR3
no BC
and 500$ price ?
something seems wrong here
8GB of DDR3
no BC
and 500$ price ?
something seems wrong here
So you are calling everyone here 8 year old Xbox gamers? lol
Oops, misread a little, then. Thanks!
I can still see them putting it at $400-450 and selling at a slight loss. It would still be haven compared to the ~$200 losses they took on PS3.
No, i couldn't care less about achievements and i honestly couldn't tell you what my gamerscore is, i'm just saying a lot of people do care.
Yup.
Boss Man
Member
I think an interesting thing to consider for Sony is whether or not they end up putting that new PS Eye in the box. I think it's there mainly as a safety net against Kinect. If developers really focus on Kinect, a platform that has similar functionality optionally may be left out to dry.
At the same time, not including it could pull the price down.
At the same time, not including it could pull the price down.
soulassssns
Banned
I reserve my purchase decisions when I get cold hard facts straight from Microsoft.
grimshawish
Banned
Not in my experience. Quite a lot just play and stop as they need to move onto the next game to show their audience.
Personally achievements might be one thing; and can be fun to accomplish, but the score itself is just arbitrary and means nothing. If someone goes to PS4 their gamescore doesn't change, its just not what their advertising.
BlazingDarkness
Member
I mentioned this in another thread, it would be insane for them to force always-online DRM and then lock all online features behind a pay wall - I definitely think online multiplayer/netflix etc will be free on the Durango, they'll probably push a lot of freebies and value to counter the DRM negativity.
I definitely wouldn't count on Halo 5 being there right at launch. I find it hard to believe that 343i could develop a mainline, full blown sequel to Halo 4 in only a years time.
BadAss2961
Member
Nextbox just sounds more and more awful with each new rumor.
If this one has any weight to it, prepare for MS to try to sneak in an XBL price increase with these new subscription models.
If this one has any weight to it, prepare for MS to try to sneak in an XBL price increase with these new subscription models.
By an ex girlfriend with a grudge i guess?.
ProfessorMoran
Member
The Halo franchise isn't the same anyway now that Bungie is gone.
As i said we have the NPD numbers and they didn´t show a significant increase. The question was if customers would eat the prescribtion model up and so far we have absolutely no evidence that they do.
Don´t know whats so hard to get about this.
A billion dollar MS spin campaign.
Hmm, I don't know about that. MS has been charging for those features on XBL for 11 years. I don't think they would be so gracious as to suddenly remove that paywall.
ProfessorMoran
Member
If Sony has an ounce of commonsense left (which they showed by hiring Cerny as system architect and using off-the-shelf parts that aren't over-engineered), then they would try to keep the price as low as possible.
What evidence is there of this? The only exclusive that Epic has done for Microsoft is Gears of War. Epic owns the Gears of War IP.
They have also put out UT exclusively on PS3 and PC and Bulletstorm came out on all platforms.
What evidence is there?
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Two jobs in another city is going to be really lame.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
I would love it to be $399-450
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Includes kinect 2.0?
'Halo Quadrilogy' with updated graphics.
SniperHunter
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Eighty Deuce
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How? How can any of this be true? How can any human being look at these features and say "WE HAVE A WINNER".
digoutyoursoul
Member
They will need some spin at $500
BadAss2961
Member
I wouldn't put it past Microsoft. I get the feeling they'd rush it out there just to have it available.
DragonSworne
Banned
if I were more interested in buying Durango.haha - no it was given by a family member that got it bundled in their 360 box and they didn't want it either. I was like "Eh, what the heck I'll give it a try" (It was new-ish back then)
well, also add the Kinect camera apparatus.
But, beyond that, MS might be trying to make a profit on hardware. Or they may push that $300 and Live subscription price real, real hard.
No i get entirely what you're saying. There is no reason why the subsidized model will not be available at retail. Right now for the subsidized 360 at $99 you get a 4gb system with a Kinect which retails at $299.99, so a $200 difference like this rumor is. Here, you pay $15 a month for 24 months.
If there is a set top box functionality you will have a further subsidized model because now you're paying for a more expensive service with the cable service and Live. That $15 a month could go up to $50 or more for Live plus cable.
BlazingDarkness
Member
They'll just find new stuff to charge for (streaming/playing games while they download etc.)
You remember that you're talking about Sony, right?
That's going to be entirely dependent on a lot of things. Contracts in some reasons are not as loved as you would think. Canada in particular has a harsh distrust of them due to severe abuse of them from carriers the likes of which US cell phone owners have never seen. So if Canadians are going to take a contract model, they want to see that there's a value in it.
One also needs to remember that phones on subsidy make sense to cell phone consumers, as they are already REQUIRED to pay a monthly fee for the cell phone to work anyways. XBL's value proposition has degraded significantly since it was first introduced, and people may not (and likely will not) view a console as something that requires subscription and see it more for what it really is: a lease. And every consumer knows that when you take a lease, you're getting hosed on value every single time.
Still doubt it unless they very secretly have it being developed by a second developer. The only reason why Call of Duty is a yearly title is because 2 - 3 developers regularly work on it as of the present as they alternate with the yearly releases. 343 is the only developer working on Halo that we know of.
Something like this isn't that far-fetched though.
CouldBeWorse
Member
We Americans sure love our drugs.
We also love our SUBSCRIPTIONS when they save us a bundle up front.