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COD: Ghosts PS4 case jacket leaked; 49GB install
- Thread starter shinobi602
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Every PS4 and Xbone comes with a huge hard drive.
Not every PS3 and 360 does unless the user replaced it.
So if they push a huge install to the hd twins aswell to get better performance, they will have to deal with those that have 4gb and 12gb of storage on their 360/PS3.
Next gen consoles have a minimum of 500gb, devs dont need to hold back if they wish to install everything on the hard drive.
That's what i think anyway.
Physical buyers don't need to download that. And thats a huge plus for us.
Also we can resell the game easily.
You're right, going physical won't save you any drive space based on the information we have. I've been saying this for awhile now but people tend to ignore those posts for some reason. Now they act all surprised despite this information having been available for awhile now. What gives?
The advantage of a disk this gen will be for people with bandwidth caps, for people who want to start playing immediately, or for people who want to resell their games. If none of those are an issue for you, you literally have no reason not to go digital now.
500 GB doesn't really sound huge when games are taking up that amount of space.
Steverulez
Member
Launch title? Perhaps games will be smaller later on. Although lots of ps3 games were huge this gen so maybe not
VisceralBowl
Member
I don't think you know just how much next gen assets can weigh. Textures and audio alone are very, very big before they are compressed for the discs.
Obscene Jester
Banned
Could this be like Uncharted 3 where you needed double the HHD space to install it than the game actually occupied on disk?
Perhaps. I would think they would get larger as the generation goes on. I am really worried about only having 500GB now. My 320GB in my xbox feels small when games are 6-8GB on average. Games are going from taking up 2-3% of my HDD to taking up 10%. Fewer games definitely feels like next-gen... :/
OldAsUrSock
Banned
No, just because Uncharted 2, a last gen title, was 25GB does not mean it was lazy just because their competition was putting out 7GB titles.
With any other game I would have agreed, but this is call of duty, game looks like shit, how's this 10GB bigger than KZ?
mitchman
Gold Member
I don't really see the problem here for those with a physical media. You play the game, it installs why you play. You finish the game and delete the game data while the save games remain. 3 months later you want to play it again, it installs again.
Obviously, for digital downloads it's a different story.
Obviously, for digital downloads it's a different story.
VisceralBowl
Member
Well, yeah, this game does look pretty meh on next gen. Ill give you that.
Wishmaster92
Member
The good thing is that every developer both 3rd party and 1st knows that every console comes with 500gb of space, unlike this gen. As long as most of that 49gb install is composed of hi-res assets and not compressed we should be happy. The audio always gets streamed from the disk right?
Deleting and redownloading stuff. Just like PC. Or other digital only devices (phones/tablets).
OldAsUrSock
Banned
Except on PC you can get 3TB HDD or set up RAID if you use multiple disks. The PS4 has no such ability so you will be deleting much more frequently.
cebri.one
Member
No partial installs? Wow, that's a shame. Guess we'll have to upgrade the HDD.
This is the call of duty team were talking about here.
Forsaken82
Member
No blood is a stretch. Infinity ward games may not be as over the top as Treyarch, but they are hardly bloodless. MW2 and MW3 have ridiculously violent sequences, especially the endings.
Well if you want to spend money on that kind of thing. I'm lucky if I keep more than 200GB of games on my system at once. I just delete and redownload games as needed.
-MD-
Member
There are eight xbox one games?
What? It's a 2.5" internal drive.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
endresults
Member
Western Digital moneyhats.
PS4 installs are the whole contents of the disk, similar to the way things are now on Xbox 360.
Unlike Xbox 360, the installs happen in the background automatically, and are presumably managed by the system to some degree, e.g. it'll probably delete the installs for games that you haven't played in a long time if you have less than a certain amount of free space.
Short of that, I'm sure you can manually delete install data or tell a game not to install more than the minimum amount needed, if there's a minimum at all.
Also, I think we would have heard by now if you were forced to install before you start playing. Cerny said that games would run off the disk, but dynamically install more and more data as needed until the disk was just in the drive for authentication purposes and everything could be read off the faster hard drive instead.
Unlike Xbox 360, the installs happen in the background automatically, and are presumably managed by the system to some degree, e.g. it'll probably delete the installs for games that you haven't played in a long time if you have less than a certain amount of free space.
Short of that, I'm sure you can manually delete install data or tell a game not to install more than the minimum amount needed, if there's a minimum at all.
Also, I think we would have heard by now if you were forced to install before you start playing. Cerny said that games would run off the disk, but dynamically install more and more data as needed until the disk was just in the drive for authentication purposes and everything could be read off the faster hard drive instead.
I'm not sure what people were expecting. Current gem games were already getting towards about 14GB in size, and they have painfully low resolution textures. Raising texture resolution dramatically increases the size of a game. I was expecting no less than 35GB as the standard for the first year, and larger the further we get into the generation.
I am curious to see if Xbox One games are going to be the same size, as I am not convinced textures will be of the same quality on that machine.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
That's a lot of on-disc DLC.
Technosteve
Banned
You got a point there!
Its not the textures that are going to make a big issue. Its the uncompressed audio. If games do anything now that they have a ton of space, it'll be full audio with no compression. Games better sound great if they decide to do this shit.
Textures take up waaaaaay more space than audio. Videos can also take up quite a chunk of space, but lots of games currently stream that from disc. Not sure if it's really necessary to install those on ps4/xbo to be honest.
There is no streaming from disc on either consoles. The discs are only there to deliver the game to the HDD. Same as if you were downloading from the internet. Just a different way to get to the HDD.
So long as game installs are separated from save data, I agree and don't see a huge problem. Is anyone really playing 8 different games at a given time? Now if my progress gets deleted when I delete the install data, then there is something to this.
Saves can be stored on the Sony cloud servers (previously a PS+ perk, but I believe it will be free for all on PS4). But even if it isn't, this is how game installs already work on the PS3. If I delete my MGS4 install, I don't loose my progress. That would just be stupid to tie one to the other.
entremet
Member
logic says it's uncompressed audio and video tracks multiplied by minimum 7 different languages (English, Spanish, French, German, Italian, Portuguese and Russian at the very least).. ok, so why won't the game let you select which language to use before installing ?? I can't see a reason for not having this option, nor I can see a reason for the game to be 49 GB if not for the uncompressed media in multiple languages.
Also, how big will patches be ? if there's some glitch in the audio or movies ? 10-15 GB patches ? lol.
Also, how big will patches be ? if there's some glitch in the audio or movies ? 10-15 GB patches ? lol.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Yeah, but Vita does this (or did). You can back up the saves to your PS3 or PS+ though. It's still incredibly stupid
Console gamers tend to have a hoarder mentality.
I think MOST hardcore gamers tend to hoard. I've always advocated cleaning out the games you don't really play anymore but many GAF users cannot stand to do this and instead bitch about lack of space and poor performance due to massive game lists on 360.
I'll be honest, I'm very surprised this quote hasn't been quoted to hell and back since April because that is very clear that full installs were there.
Have you seen the textures in Ghosts? Go look at them and tell me they take up more space than audio in this case.