It's very much a time sink to be constantly deleting/re-installing games that you want to pull out and play for a few hours. I can see why this might be a negative.
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COD: Ghosts PS4 case jacket leaked; 49GB install
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It's very much a time sink to be constantly deleting/re-installing games that you want to pull out and play for a few hours. I can see why this might be a negative.
It'll be a problem if you don't clear up games you're no longer playing.
X1 will install games to external though. Ps4 no. (Yet?)
mohsinkhan
Member
I hate long game installs it's like the drive home from bestbuy after buying a new console.... Every red light in the world.
LiquidSolid
Member
You realise that the installs are all done in the background, right? You can start playing the game immediately and it will run off the disc at first, before switching to the HDD once it has enough data installed. The only time consuming thing will be having to manually delete them and then have slightly longer load times when the game is running off the disc.
Being able to play as you install makes that a non-issue mostly. Only reason I keep game data on my PS3 is because the initial installs are pretty painful and the game can't be played until it's installed and patched. With PS4 and Xbone, I shouldn't have to do this, at least in theory.
CosmicGroinPull
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shungokusatsu
Member
Come at me bro!
ConteZero76
Member
BINK VIDEO ? REALLY ?
Honey Bunny
Member
Be honest, did that thing cost more than the console?
All signs point to yes.
shungokusatsu
Member
$525 during the amazon 20% deal along with $45 amazon credit. After taxes it was 500ish.
Xbox One lets you install games to an external drive I believe, but they have to because they're doing the same every game mandatory install thing and the internal drive can't be replaced.
Considering it appears to be laying on top of an alienware I'm guessing money isn't an issue for him.
Like most features, this won't be available at launch.
Huh, at this rate we really may be looking at getting those for at least Playstations as the norm rather than the crazy expensive option. Especially if harddrives fail to completely trounce them price wise, there's only so much you can make something cheaper before the materials alone keep it at a certain cost.
But it's coming yes? I wish the same could be said for PS4 =/. 1.5 TB will not be enough this gen. That's like...only 30 games of this size.
That's what they say. =p
Succinct Verbosity
Member
Well fuck, I'm not good with technology... What's the best 1TB hard drive to put into a ps4?
There's a reason why Bink is still around. It's by far the most efficient way to play videos, enabling devs to play it and load game data into RAM at the same time.
HovaHovito
Banned
This beats updating drivers once a couple years right guys ?
That does help, I suppose. If you can install only a part of the game and then start playing. It's not the answer I was looking for, but it is a compromise. Still not the same thing as popping it in and viola, press start to awesome.
Are you hating on Bink?
It is the same thing as that though because you can start playing immediately.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Why couldn't they just update the disc reader? I'm sure in 2013 we have drives that can read a HELL of a lot faster than the ones in '06.
Why not just force us to install what the devs feel are absolutely necessary and the heavily upgraded reader drive does the rest?
I...what?!
Why not just force us to install what the devs feel are absolutely necessary and the heavily upgraded reader drive does the rest?
I...what?!
lucius
Member
So I see that hard drive has 32 MB cache does that make much of a difference on consoles?
I know the stock PS4 is 5400 RPM so that one is also faster just never got a clear answer if cache makes a big difference in console games.
This needs 49GB?
Seriously?
Thanks for making everything look like miniatures, post-FX guys. (In fact, all COD's I know have this unnecessary and unrealistically scaled Depth Of Field in the death scene, which makes everything look so small, and makes it lose scale. It's a signature effect of COD's death view, and it looks absolutely stupid.
Killzone SF has around a 50GB required install the last time I checked.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Bink sucks yo.
Could be true, but we are introducing lots of variables with this activity. Is it streaming from the disc or from the Blu-Ray? Seems like a helluva strain to be installing and streaming data from a single hard drive all at once. I hope those things are sturdy.
Anyway, I understand that it's only a *modest* compromise, but it's still inconvenient. I understand why Nintendo opted so long for cartridge so that they could avoid load times. That idea of just popping in the game to play and no hassle is just a better scenario, for convenience and for anyone in the family to play. But that's getting beyond the point. If you can actually uninstall the game, then re-install and start exactly where you left off in your save while installing the game again, I'd be impressed. But somehow I don't think it's going to be like that.
LiquidSolid
Member
Did you even read my post? That is EXACTLY what you can do. Everything is done in the background, there's no install screens or anything. It seamlessly switches from playing the game off the disc to playing the game off the HDD. The only way you'll notice this is in the load times (because discs are slower than drives).
Edit: In this case, the disc is very clearly the bluray.
Cerny laid out exactly how it's going to work, there's no variables.
Dreams-Visions
Member
For a game console? What the fuck?
SSHD. It was $100.
About a month ago. Anyway I hope larger sized harddrives are offered for both next gen consoles in the future.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
I'm gonna go ahead and say most of the COD fanbase is composed of Softcore and casual players and 50 gigs won't mean much as they buy 2 or 3 games a year and when BLOPS 3 comes out they'll just delete Ghosts' Data
We are definitely going to need a hard drive that hasnt been created yet.
I would pretty much just assume every game takes 50gb and thats just at launch.
Did you read *my* post just above yours?
see I can do that too
Anyway, I understand it's easier than ever before to perform these operations, but like I said, it's still a complication and an inconvenience. Also if you can start your save file exactly where you left off (say, if you saved at the end of the game, for example) while re-installing I would be impressed. But I don't think the system is going to know how to do that. If you have proof that it will then please do provide the link because I'm too lazy to look it up.
EDIT: Okay, so you can play from the disc. I don't see why they make the installs mandatory, then. Should be optional for hard drive space. Still an inconvenience
BOOM ;P
That's so nice.
Are you talking quality? Bink looks as good as the data rate you give it; you can make shitty looking h264 video too. It's up to the developer if it looks good or not. It's got low overhead processor and memory wise. You can practically just drop it in. And RAD gives stellar support.
It's 3x faster. Still not fast enough, according to Cerny.
Yeah, it's still shit that you have no choice when you can clearly still play it from the disc. Should be able to have the choice like this gen.