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SUPERMAN VS BATMAN delayed until May 6th, 2016

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Parch

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Yeah, I don't think Marvel is too concerned about DC's scheduling.

The Batman movies were good. I liked the story and production. It's just the damn casting. Oldman and Ledger are the only actors that I thought were any good. And there's already been enough said about future casting. Blech.

Casting is where Marvel kicks butt. They pick the right people for the characters.
 
Simo

Simo

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Bummer but I remember they delayed Man of Steel too.

The pros of this is I hope WB diverts their marketing efforts and whatnot towards Mad Max: Fury Road since that looks to be their biggest movie for next summer.
 
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bigboss370

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lets get real here. Its a movie with both Superman AND Batman, the two biggest juggernauts in all of comics media. It's gonna be huge whenever it comes, people have been dreaming about this for so long.
 
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Dai101

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bigboss370 said:
lets get real here. Its a movie with both Superman AND Batman, the two biggest juggernauts in all of comics media. It's gonna be huge whenever it comes, people have been dreaming about this for so long.
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Let's get real. Last Thor movie was huge, almost as MoS. He's a not so well known character.
 
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Timu

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While I would like for it to be in 2015, at least this would give them more time to perfect the script.
 
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bigboss370

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Dai101 said:
Let's get real. Last Thor movie was huge, almost as MoS. He's a not so well known character.
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Ripclawe

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ribs or legs getting hurt can't be the cause of this movie getting pushed to 2016. Something showed up in preproduction that caused Warner to panic and then stupidly put on a date where you have

same day: unnamed Marvel Movie
next week: new Xmen
and Spiderman 3 soon after.

Its a clusterfuck and that is what was expected from Warner
 
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bigboss370

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Ripclawe said:
ribs or legs getting hurt can't be the cause of this movie getting pushed to 2016. Something showed up in preproduction that caused Warner to panic and then stupidly put on a date where you have

same day: unnamed Marvel Movie
next week: new Xmen
and Spiderman 3 soon after.

Its a clusterfuck and that is what was expected from Warner
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nah it could still have to do with the injury, cuz they have to keep up a training schedule, plus we don't know details on any injury (severity and such)...

as mentioned before it could also have to do with the fact they want to shoot this and justice league back to back.
 
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effzee

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Yet again reading the majority of these responses, I wonder do people even want anything to ever succeed? Or be excited anymore about anything? People were saying DC can't get their shit together because they were rushing this. Now when they push it back its somehow worse? Its like DC can't do anything right whereas in reality the Batman movies themselves crossed the billion mark twice, without 3D. MoS for being critically slammed and as a relaunch of a dead (on film) franchise (much like BB) did great at the BO. But its such a stupid competition for rabid fanboys that it seems even more pathetic than console fanboy wars.

A lot of the same GAF crowd was going on and on about how much Avengers would suck because of Whedon, because of how mediocre the individual Marvel movies were in the lead up (outside of IM1), and how because it looked like it would just be a giant clusterfuck.But now we are to believe Avengers is a gold standard and nothing DC can do now or in the future will ever be good.

First of all what "good" are we even talking about? Box office? Yeah maybe Batman and Super won't cross Avengers revenue. Maybe it will. All I know is that the money it makes will mostly be based on the hype, marketing, and the wow factor of having Batman and Superman together on screen for the first time ever.

The same factor I contribute largely to the initial box office for Avengers. It wasn't that the solo origins movies were so well made or so well received that they alone or solely contributed to the Avengers success.

I am more concerned with the actual quality of the movie and while I liked Avengers, its not a great movie IMO and something Batman/Superman could do better than. Its not something unheard of. Who knows. This movie might totally suck but considering how everyone is always saying they are rushing this product, or they don't have enough time, how is this bad now? What difference does it make if DC/WB release this in 2016 and make a billion vs releasing it in 2015.

I just want a good shared universe movie if that is the direction they are going in. Personally I would have preferred a non shared DC world where each character gets his and her own series but shared universe it is.
Who cares how much money Marvel makes vs DC. Nolan's Batman movies have left DC in a very good place financially I am sure.

Also count me in the camp who thinks a Batman/Superman movie based just on those characters alone is guaranteed to do close to a billion and if its even slightly good or really good it will do great.
 
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bigboss370

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effzee said:
Yet again reading the majority of these responses, I wonder do people even want anything to ever succeed? Or be excited anymore about anything? People were saying DC can't get their shit together because they were rushing this. Now when they push it back its somehow worse? Its like DC can't do anything right whereas in reality the Batman movies themselves crossed the billion mark twice, without 3D. MoS for being critically slammed and as a relaunch of a dead (on film) franchise (much like BB) did great at the BO. But its such a stupid competition for rabid fanboys that it seems even more pathetic than console fanboy wars.

A lot of the same GAF crowd was going on and on about how much Avengers would suck because of Whedon, because of how mediocre the individual Marvel movies were in the lead up (outside of IM1), and how because it looked like it would just be a giant clusterfuck.But now we are to believe Avengers is a gold standard and nothing DC can do now or in the future will ever be good.
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honestly I feel like most gaf movie threads are like this, alot of whining about alot of movies, especially superhero ones. also imo the so called "gold standard" of avengers was already beat my man of steel. i mean, i loved the shit out of avengers, still do, and i watched it multiple times...but that smallville scene and the ending spectacle in MoS...jesus.
 
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Blader

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Hmm, I had heard earlier today that Affleck was hurt and they were going to have delay the start of shooting until March, didn't think that would warrant pushing the whole release back by a year.
 
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EulaCapra

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9 month delay? In the meantime, let's get that secretly greenlight Wonder Woman movie ready by next year with the real actress shadowing for Gal Gadot.
 
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Dysun

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effzee said:
Yet again reading the majority of these responses, I wonder do people even want anything to ever succeed? Or be excited anymore about anything? People were saying DC can't get their shit together because they were rushing this. Now when they push it back its somehow worse? Its like DC can't do anything right whereas in reality the Batman movies themselves crossed the billion mark twice, without 3D. MoS for being critically slammed and as a relaunch of a dead (on film) franchise (much like BB) did great at the BO. But its such a stupid competition for rabid fanboys that it seems even more pathetic than console fanboy wars.

A lot of the same GAF crowd was going on and on about how much Avengers would suck because of Whedon, because of how mediocre the individual Marvel movies were in the lead up (outside of IM1), and how because it looked like it would just be a giant clusterfuck.But now we are to believe Avengers is a gold standard and nothing DC can do now or in the future will ever be good.

First of all what "good" are we even talking about? Box office? Yeah maybe Batman and Super won't cross Avengers revenue. Maybe it will. All I know is that the money it makes will mostly be based on the hype, marketing, and the wow factor of having Batman and Superman together on screen for the first time ever.

The same factor I contribute largely to the initial box office for Avengers. It wasn't that the solo origins movies were so well made or so well received that they alone or solely contributed to the Avengers success.

I am more concerned with the actual quality of the movie and while I liked Avengers, its not a great movie IMO and something Batman/Superman could do better than. Its not something unheard of. Who knows. This movie might totally suck but considering how everyone is always saying they are rushing this product, or they don't have enough time, how is this bad now? What difference does it make if DC/WB release this in 2016 and make a billion vs releasing it in 2015.

I just want a good shared universe movie if that is the direction they are going in. Personally I would have preferred a non shared DC world where each character gets his and her own series but shared universe it is.
Who cares how much money Marvel makes vs DC. Nolan's Batman movies have left DC in a very good place financially I am sure.

Also count me in the camp who thinks a Batman/Superman movie based just on those characters alone is guaranteed to do close to a billion and if its even slightly good or really good it will do great.
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Nice to see a reasonable post among the sea of jaded cynicism
 
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Verendus

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effzee said:
Yet again reading the majority of these responses, I wonder do people even want anything to ever succeed? Or be excited anymore about anything? People were saying DC can't get their shit together because they were rushing this. Now when they push it back its somehow worse? Its like DC can't do anything right whereas in reality the Batman movies themselves crossed the billion mark twice, without 3D. MoS for being critically slammed and as a relaunch of a dead (on film) franchise (much like BB) did great at the BO. But its such a stupid competition for rabid fanboys that it seems even more pathetic than console fanboy wars.

A lot of the same GAF crowd was going on and on about how much Avengers would suck because of Whedon, because of how mediocre the individual Marvel movies were in the lead up (outside of IM1), and how because it looked like it would just be a giant clusterfuck.But now we are to believe Avengers is a gold standard and nothing DC can do now or in the future will ever be good.

First of all what "good" are we even talking about? Box office? Yeah maybe Batman and Super won't cross Avengers revenue. Maybe it will. All I know is that the money it makes will mostly be based on the hype, marketing, and the wow factor of having Batman and Superman together on screen for the first time ever.

The same factor I contribute largely to the initial box office for Avengers. It wasn't that the solo origins movies were so well made or so well received that they alone or solely contributed to the Avengers success.

I am more concerned with the actual quality of the movie and while I liked Avengers, its not a great movie IMO and something Batman/Superman could do better than. Its not something unheard of. Who knows. This movie might totally suck but considering how everyone is always saying they are rushing this product, or they don't have enough time, how is this bad now? What difference does it make if DC/WB release this in 2016 and make a billion vs releasing it in 2015.

I just want a good shared universe movie if that is the direction they are going in. Personally I would have preferred a non shared DC world where each character gets his and her own series but shared universe it is.
Who cares how much money Marvel makes vs DC. Nolan's Batman movies have left DC in a very good place financially I am sure.

Also count me in the camp who thinks a Batman/Superman movie based just on those characters alone is guaranteed to do close to a billion and if its even slightly good or really good it will do great.
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Agree with a lot of this. It gets tiring seeing DC and Marvel fanboys going at it. For Green Lantern, there is shit like Captain America and The Incredible Hulk. Most of these movies are bloody mediocre or crap barring a handful of exceptions. On your last point, I'd say Batman/Superman is guaranteed to do a minimum of a billion. It's a case of seeing how far past that mark they could get.

This is disappointing news regardless.

2015 was going to be a huge year with Jurassic World, Star Wars, Fast and Furious 7, MI5, Avengers 2, Terminator, Bourne 5 and the list goes on. It's a shame we're going to end up waiting an extra year for Batman/Superman.

On the other hand, 2016 looks to be a big comic book movie year now with Batman/Superman, X-Men: Apocalypse and Spider-Man.
 
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Tabby

Member
effzee said:
Yet again reading the majority of these responses, I wonder do people even want anything to ever succeed? Or be excited anymore about anything? People were saying DC can't get their shit together because they were rushing this. Now when they push it back its somehow worse? Its like DC can't do anything right whereas in reality the Batman movies themselves crossed the billion mark twice, without 3D. MoS for being critically slammed and as a relaunch of a dead (on film) franchise (much like BB) did great at the BO. But its such a stupid competition for rabid fanboys that it seems even more pathetic than console fanboy wars.

A lot of the same GAF crowd was going on and on about how much Avengers would suck because of Whedon, because of how mediocre the individual Marvel movies were in the lead up (outside of IM1), and how because it looked like it would just be a giant clusterfuck.But now we are to believe Avengers is a gold standard and nothing DC can do now or in the future will ever be good.

First of all what "good" are we even talking about? Box office? Yeah maybe Batman and Super won't cross Avengers revenue. Maybe it will. All I know is that the money it makes will mostly be based on the hype, marketing, and the wow factor of having Batman and Superman together on screen for the first time ever.

The same factor I contribute largely to the initial box office for Avengers. It wasn't that the solo origins movies were so well made or so well received that they alone or solely contributed to the Avengers success.

I am more concerned with the actual quality of the movie and while I liked Avengers, its not a great movie IMO and something Batman/Superman could do better than. Its not something unheard of. Who knows. This movie might totally suck but considering how everyone is always saying they are rushing this product, or they don't have enough time, how is this bad now? What difference does it make if DC/WB release this in 2016 and make a billion vs releasing it in 2015.

I just want a good shared universe movie if that is the direction they are going in. Personally I would have preferred a non shared DC world where each character gets his and her own series but shared universe it is.
Who cares how much money Marvel makes vs DC. Nolan's Batman movies have left DC in a very good place financially I am sure.

Also count me in the camp who thinks a Batman/Superman movie based just on those characters alone is guaranteed to do close to a billion and if its even slightly good or really good it will do great.
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I couldn't agree more.
I don't know, I guess most comic book fans are never happy.

MOS despite being "an average movie" has done well at the box office, TDK is widely recognised as one of the best comic book trilogies.
Superman and Batman are 2 of the most recognised superheroes ever.
It would take a colossal fuck up for Batman vs Superman to do crap.
 
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cdkee

Banned
ItsThatAsianBoy said:
Have we seen anything from Gadot as Wonder Woman yet?
How do you even know that she's going to be terrible?
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Have you seen her in other movies? Not much else than a pretty face IMO. But yeah, hopefully the extra time allows her to get buff if she actually has significant screen time in the movie. I don't mind a delay. It seemed like 2015 was too ambitious.
 
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TheKaeptain

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effzee said:
Yet again reading the majority of these responses, I wonder do people even want anything to ever succeed? Or be excited anymore about anything? People were saying DC can't get their shit together because they were rushing this. Now when they push it back its somehow worse? Its like DC can't do anything right whereas in reality the Batman movies themselves crossed the billion mark twice, without 3D. MoS for being critically slammed and as a relaunch of a dead (on film) franchise (much like BB) did great at the BO. But its such a stupid competition for rabid fanboys that it seems even more pathetic than console fanboy wars.

A lot of the same GAF crowd was going on and on about how much Avengers would suck because of Whedon, because of how mediocre the individual Marvel movies were in the lead up (outside of IM1), and how because it looked like it would just be a giant clusterfuck.But now we are to believe Avengers is a gold standard and nothing DC can do now or in the future will ever be good.

First of all what "good" are we even talking about? Box office? Yeah maybe Batman and Super won't cross Avengers revenue. Maybe it will. All I know is that the money it makes will mostly be based on the hype, marketing, and the wow factor of having Batman and Superman together on screen for the first time ever.

The same factor I contribute largely to the initial box office for Avengers. It wasn't that the solo origins movies were so well made or so well received that they alone or solely contributed to the Avengers success.

I am more concerned with the actual quality of the movie and while I liked Avengers, its not a great movie IMO and something Batman/Superman could do better than. Its not something unheard of. Who knows. This movie might totally suck but considering how everyone is always saying they are rushing this product, or they don't have enough time, how is this bad now? What difference does it make if DC/WB release this in 2016 and make a billion vs releasing it in 2015.

I just want a good shared universe movie if that is the direction they are going in. Personally I would have preferred a non shared DC world where each character gets his and her own series but shared universe it is.
Who cares how much money Marvel makes vs DC. Nolan's Batman movies have left DC in a very good place financially I am sure.

Also count me in the camp who thinks a Batman/Superman movie based just on those characters alone is guaranteed to do close to a billion and if its even slightly good or really good it will do great.
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STOP WITH THIS POSITIVE CRAP.
 
-Plasma Reus-

-Plasma Reus-

Service guarantees member status
3 iron man movies.
2 thor movies.
2 captain america movies.
1 Guardians of the Galaxy movie (featuring a talking raccoon).
2 Avengers movies.

Will all have been released before a movie featuring any DC justice league member besides Batman and Superman.
It really isn't that hard WB. You need to actually want to make these movies. If Marvel hadn't done Avengers, we'd have never seen Batman and Superman in the same film, ever, and that's the problem.
WB doesn't want to make these movies and doesn't really care about putting these DC characters on screen. They want to make money off of these movies first and foremost.

Since this is two years from now, WB could have started work on another DC property. Perhaps a Flash, a Wonder Woman, a hawkgirl movie? Nope, DC will never do it. So there's not gonna be a DC character on screen for another 2 years. And then on 2016, they'll throw Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman (including some other minor characters) in our face hoping people will just know about/anticipate these characters. And then when it fails to do as well as they'd hoped, they'll blame the genre or DC properties.

Sad situation.
At least Marvel is doing well, so we've got one half of the sphere working.
 
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PhantomZone

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After Man of Steel i hold no hope for Superman vs Batman. I am a huge DC fan, but grrr make the film with a better director and script writer. Man of Steel was such a gigantic let down.

On the bright side the trailer will most likely kick butt.... and if we are lucky like Man of Steel if you see the trailer (which told the story from beginning to end) you won't need to see the film.
 
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Just_myles

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Well, how about this, why don't they make a new Batman movie like right now, and film it alongside the Batman/Superman movie? They can do it Peter Jackson LOTR style. I have no idea why they are not using this time to relaunch Batman. I mean they could at least throw us Wonder Woman.

ComicGAF am I making too much sense?


Verendus said:
Agree with a lot of this. It gets tiring seeing DC and Marvel fanboys going at it. For Green Lantern, there is shit like Captain America and The Incredible Hulk. Most of these movies are bloody mediocre or crap barring a handful of exceptions. On your last point, I'd say Batman/Superman is guaranteed to do a minimum of a billion. It's a case of seeing how far past that mark they could get.
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Now if you mean Ang Hulk, that is correct. Captain America, I can't cosign on that Cap1 was great. If you had said Thor1, I would have agreed with you, that movie sucked bad.
 
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LosDaddie

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Eh, it's for the best. I knew this movie was in trouble the moment they decided to cast shitty Afleck as Batman, and was only reinforced when WB cast a stick figure as Wonder Woman. Give the writers more time to make a great script, and Afleck & the stick figure more time to put on the MUCH NEEDED bulk to play their roles. Really, the delay, while somewhat disappointing, is for the best, and I applaud WB for doing so.

Still, it's Day 1 for me. I've always wanted to see superhero team-up movies since I was a kid. Avengers was everything I could've asked for. I'm hoping this movie delivers the same.


-Plasma Reus- said:
3 iron man movies.
2 thor movies.
2 captain america movies.
1 Guardians of the Galaxy movie (featuring a talking raccoon).
2 Avengers movies.

Will all have been released before a movie featuring any DC justice league member besides Batman and Superman.
It really isn't that hard WB. You need to actually want to make these movies. If Marvel hadn't done Avengers, we'd have never seen Batman and Superman in the same film, ever, and that's the problem.
WB doesn't want to make these movies and doesn't really care about putting these DC characters on screen. They want to make money off of these movies first and foremost.

Since this is two years from now, WB could have started work on another DC property. Perhaps a Flash, a Wonder Woman, a hawkgirl movie? Nope, DC will never do it. So there's not gonna be a DC character on screen for another 2 years. And then on 2016, they'll throw Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman (including some other minor characters) in our face hoping people will just know about/anticipate these characters. And then when it fails to do as well as they'd hoped, they'll blame the genre or DC properties.

Sad situation.
At least Marvel is doing well, so we've got one half of the sphere working.
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Stahp it!! I can hear the DC fanboys crying from here. They have to be miserable. :lol

Seriously though, we are getting a GotG movie (a C-list crew AT BEST) before a Justice League movie. Let that fact sink in. Marvel just doing that work. Can't be denied.
 
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