TheAbsolution
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That moment was the real winners moment. Balloons and everything.I was thinking the exact same thing.
That last song was seriously awful though.
Jena's probably gonna do better than he is.
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American Idol Season XIII |OT| January 15, 2014 8/7 Central #ThisIsReal
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That last song was seriously awful though.
Jena's probably gonna do better than he is.
SteveMeister
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Geeze, hyperbole much? Caleb's style may be old school, but he's a hell of a lot more talented than Taylor Hicks. I think that with the right songs (and his coronation song ain't one of them) he'll do just fine.
Jena on the other hand is so very much ready for the big time. She's gonna go far. She is definitely more of an Idol-type than Caleb, but at this point she didn't need the win as much as Caleb did.
Jena on the other hand is so very much ready for the big time. She's gonna go far. She is definitely more of an Idol-type than Caleb, but at this point she didn't need the win as much as Caleb did.
But I'd argue Idol needed Jena more as a winner. It undermines the point of the show when other contestants do better than the winner.
LET'S RANK THE WINNERS!!
I'm ranking on sheer talent, not commercial success:
1. Kelly Clarkson (A+)
2. Carrie Underwood (A+)
3. Jordin Sparks (A+)
4. Candice Glover (A+)
5. David Cook (A)
6. Fantasia Barrino (A)
7. Ruben Studdard (B+)
8. Kris Allen (B+)
9. Taylor Hicks (B-)
10. Caleb Johnson (B-)
11. Phillip Phillips (C)
12. Lee DeWyze (C)
13. Scotty McCreery (D+)
I'm ranking on sheer talent, not commercial success:
1. Kelly Clarkson (A+)
2. Carrie Underwood (A+)
3. Jordin Sparks (A+)
4. Candice Glover (A+)
5. David Cook (A)
6. Fantasia Barrino (A)
7. Ruben Studdard (B+)
8. Kris Allen (B+)
9. Taylor Hicks (B-)
10. Caleb Johnson (B-)
11. Phillip Phillips (C)
12. Lee DeWyze (C)
13. Scotty McCreery (D+)
Leona Lewis
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Mostly agree, except I'd downgrade Kris to a B (his interpretive abilities alone aren't enough for a B+) and Carrie to an A- (she had some truly unfortunate performances).
And after last week's monstrosity, an F for Scotty would be generous.
1. Kelly Clarkson
2. Carrie Underwood
3. Phillip Phillips
4. Kris Allen
5. Jordin Sparks
6. David Cook
7. Candice Glover
8. Scotty McCreery
9. Fantasia Barrino
10. Ruben Studdard
11. Caleb Johnson
12. Taylor Hicks
13. Lee DeWyze
AngmarsKing701
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Bit of a bummer on the finale. I'll vote with my wallet though. I'll own many songs sung by Jena and few if any by Caleb. She's the better talent.
Wafflecakes
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Disgusting. Could not be any more displeased with this future-less tribute band singer winning.
MetalGuardian
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Whaaaaaat is going on
All of you DO realize that both are tremendously talented vocalists that will be crippled by commercialized industry bullshit forced on them, right? Both of their "singles" are bad. Part of the reason Idol is such a guilty pleasure for me is because I know no matter how talented the victor is, it doesn't fucking matter; a good voice recognized by a national audience still has no bearing on how creative or talented said vocalist's musical career will be.
Neither Jena nor Caleb have their own original bands. They'll sing whatever bullshit they're given by the record labels. Sometimes those songs work out (Clarkson, Underwood, etc.), but most of the time they don't.
ALL OF THAT BEING SAID... does anyone have a link to the winner announcement? I didn't catch it
Wafflecakes
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1. Kelly Clarkson (A+)
2. Carrie Underwood (A)
3. Jordin Sparks (A)
4. Fantasia Barrino (A-)
5. Kris Allen (B)
6. David Cook (B-)
7. Candice Glover (B-)
8. Ruben Studdard (B-)
9. Scotty McCreery (B-)
10. Phillip Phillips (C+)
11. Lee DeWyze (D)
12. Caleb Johnson (F)
13. Taylor Hicks (F-)
2. Carrie Underwood (A)
3. Jordin Sparks (A)
4. Fantasia Barrino (A-)
5. Kris Allen (B)
6. David Cook (B-)
7. Candice Glover (B-)
8. Ruben Studdard (B-)
9. Scotty McCreery (B-)
10. Phillip Phillips (C+)
11. Lee DeWyze (D)
12. Caleb Johnson (F)
13. Taylor Hicks (F-)
Aquamarine
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I know, right?
Season 13 winner: Caleb Johnson - Male
Season 12 winner: Candice Glover
Season 11 winner: Phillip Phillips - Male
Season 10 winner: Scotty McCreery - Male
Season 9 winner: Lee DeWyze - Male
Season 8 winner: Kris Allen - Male
Season 7 winner: David Cook - Male
Season 6 winner: Jordin Sparks
Season 5 winner: Taylor Hicks - Male
Season 4 winner: Carrie Underwood
Season 3 winner: Fantasia Barrino
Season 2 winner: Ruben Studdard - Male
Season 1 winner: Kelly Clarkson
Goddamn those teenage girls and their power over voting.
Dead Prince
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i think no one paid attention long enough to know that it was airing tuesday that's why. but lets be real, that tuesday episode was a waste. they didn't even perform for their life. it was just a wasted special to show off Jlo
SteveMeister
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You guys are nuts. Caleb is really talented. I think that with the right songs he can be current and do really well. Just because he's sung a lot of old-school rock songs and his coronation song sucks doesn't mean that's all he'll do.
He's WAY better than Taylor Hicks, David Cook, Lee DeWyze, and I think he'll do better than Kris Allen, too.
He's WAY better than Taylor Hicks, David Cook, Lee DeWyze, and I think he'll do better than Kris Allen, too.
Crazy how the dude streak kinda started as soon as they allowed contestants to play instruments. WGWG started taking over. Caleb kinda broke that by not being one of those guitar guys.
Still like the show better with the allowed instruments. Especially some of the piano songs that Jena did.
Xenon
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Woot! Finally a rocker wins. Strongest top 2 in a LOOOOOOONG time.
1. Kelly Clarkson (A+) Rock goddess!
2. Carrie Underwood (A) Successful
3. Caleb Johnson (A) Could be great with a good band/songwriter
4. Phillip Phillips (-A) WGWG POWER! Seriously, Home alone is enough to put him up here.
5. Jordin Sparks (B) I liked a few of her songs
6. David Cook (B) Creative, on the show.
7. Ruben Studdard (B) Nicest guy, smooth voice.
8. Kris Allen (B) He didn't over sing all his song like...
9. Fantasia Barrino (B-) Baby Moma, lol
11. Lee DeWyze (C)
12. Candice Glover (C) who?
13. Taylor Hicks (D) entertaining up to a point
13. Scotty McCreery (NA) skipped this season, love him on the Framily commercials.
1. Kelly Clarkson (A+) Rock goddess!
2. Carrie Underwood (A) Successful
3. Caleb Johnson (A) Could be great with a good band/songwriter
4. Phillip Phillips (-A) WGWG POWER! Seriously, Home alone is enough to put him up here.
5. Jordin Sparks (B) I liked a few of her songs
6. David Cook (B) Creative, on the show.
7. Ruben Studdard (B) Nicest guy, smooth voice.
8. Kris Allen (B) He didn't over sing all his song like...
9. Fantasia Barrino (B-) Baby Moma, lol
11. Lee DeWyze (C)
12. Candice Glover (C) who?
13. Taylor Hicks (D) entertaining up to a point
13. Scotty McCreery (NA) skipped this season, love him on the Framily commercials.
Wafflecakes
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Going to rank the runners up now!
1. Adam Lambert
2. Katherine McPhee
3. Jena Irene
4. Diana Degarmo
5. Crystal Bowersox
6. Jessica Sanchez
7. David Archuleta
8. Kree Harrison
9. Bo Bice
10. Clay Aiken
11. Blake Lewis
12. Lauren Alaina
13. Justin Guarini
1. Adam Lambert
2. Katherine McPhee
3. Jena Irene
4. Diana Degarmo
5. Crystal Bowersox
6. Jessica Sanchez
7. David Archuleta
8. Kree Harrison
9. Bo Bice
10. Clay Aiken
11. Blake Lewis
12. Lauren Alaina
13. Justin Guarini
Could just do an overall ranking that subjectively integrates commercial success and talent (a combination of vocal ability and marketability which might hint at future success):
1. Clarkson
2. Lambert
3. Underwood (although she slaughters the above two in earnings I consider country music to be sort of orthogonal to everything else).
4. Daughtry
5. Hudson
6. Sparks
7. Philips
8. Cook
9. McPhee
10. Johnson (?) - not sure if rock sells but like his talent.
Wafflecakes
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I would say Celeb is near the middle of the pack (maybe slightly higher) in terms of talent.
However, I struggle to put him anywhere besides dead last is marketability. Even Taylor Hicks had an outside shot at a career on Adult Contemporary radio.
However, I struggle to put him anywhere besides dead last is marketability. Even Taylor Hicks had an outside shot at a career on Adult Contemporary radio.
VanCityGamer
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Pretty sure Kelly is a much bigger overall success (globally) than Carrie.
Wafflecakes
Member
I think he is referring to raw $$$ made.
Kelly tends to tour at mid size venues, and touring is where the real money is in music.
Yes. I think last year's earnings from AI alum were something like:
1. Underwood at like 30M+
2. Clarkson at ~7M
3. Lambert and Daughtry at ~5M
4. McCreery at 4M
5. drops fast from there
Leona Lewis
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I wonder if the judges are going to be able to sit there with a straight face and claim this show still produces stars.
TheAbsolution
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Holy hell.
Wafflecakes
Member
Good. He was such a horrible choice.
Dead Prince
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if no one claim the American Idol XIV thread I will.
New season begins this week with a 2 night premiere starting Wednesday.
1 hour wednesday
2 hours thursday
same hour and format for the following week as well.
New season begins this week with a 2 night premiere starting Wednesday.
1 hour wednesday
2 hours thursday
same hour and format for the following week as well.
Leona Lewis
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Wow, seems like yesterday Jena lost to that guy
Producers: Let's get this shit over with
Wafflecakes
Member
I tried to forget... and succeeded.
perfectchaos007
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I watched a couple of audition episodes last year, and didn't like the talent on the top 12. I miss X-Factor badly. We're going on year 2 with no Simon Cowell presence in America
Dead Prince
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Royal baby will make a cameo. Don't worry
Dead Prince
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Wafflecakes
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I would really like one more season, maybe with Simon/Paula agreeing to come back for one last year.... with maybe an alumni in the last slot.
Randy can stay gone tho.
Randy can stay gone tho.
Leona Lewis
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Haha, great title
Simon, Paula, and a well-known, popular songwriter type like Bonnie McKee would do wonders for the panel.
SteveMeister
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Oh yes, this is perfect.
perfectchaos007
Member
Now that he has a kid, I don't think Simon is ever coming back to America. At least not to film a TV show.
Dead Prince
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new thread is up http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=965666
also watching clips for this season. they have a pianist during audition? LOL so much for cutting the budget
http://www.americanidol.com/watch/380343875527/7716941568
also watching clips for this season. they have a pianist during audition? LOL so much for cutting the budget
http://www.americanidol.com/watch/380343875527/7716941568
A rotating spot shared by Corey Clark, Antonella, and one of the Brittenum twins.
Dead Prince
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Melinda Doolittle should be a guest mentor tbh.
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