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Dead Or Alive 3DS Not Releasing In Sweden/Norway/Denmark Due To Child Pornography Law

KaYotiX

Banned
bluedeviltron said:
Lol @ everyone pretending they play those horrible games for any other reason.

DoA is actually a decent fighter.....now if we were talking about the Vollyball game then id be with ya
 
Dreamer RD said:
probably one of the worst fighting games ever imo. kinda porn version of virtua fighter
"I don't actually know anything about this subject but here's what I think!"

Has anyone pointed out that Eliot is a boy and not dressed in any skimpy outfits? Unless the sailor suit counts.
 

Izayoi

Banned
Dreamer RD said:
probably one of the worst fighting games ever imo. kinda porn version of virtua fighter
I realize that most people believe that everyone should be entitled to have an opinion, but I believe that exceptions should be made in certain cases.

I wasn't aware that Itagaki thought of them as his daughters, though. That's uh... Hm.
 
From The Dust said:
there is a loophole that artists exploited in order to sexualize lolis. the law accounts for chronological age, not physical. which is why those child looking girls are thousands of years old.

And you know, theres the whole thing about them not being real.

If other laws followed the child porn precedent, where an animated child-like character = child porn, then an animated human-like murder = murder. Doesnt make any sense. And I guess those "big game hunting" games should be illegal if any of them shows an endangered animal.
 

Netto-kun

Member
Well, too bad for Scandianavia. Even though it doesn't really stop people from importing the game from Amazon UK or similar sites. Doing so is actually cheaper than buying from a retail store (at least here in Norway).
 

daffy

Banned
Necromanti said:
Well, Itagaki saw the DOA characters as his children...
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Thunderbear

Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
Metalmurphy said:
This in a country where the age of consent is 15... oO

Well, it's a bit more complicated than that.

15 year olds can sleep with each other and with 16 and 17 year olds. 18 or 20 year olds are not allowed to sleep with 15 year olds.
 
The way they always got around this in the United States was to change their listed age to "N/A". Until I found out Kasumi and Ayane were supposed to be that young I was always baffled that their ages could be "not applicable".
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cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
bon said:
That's what they all say.
Nah, i mean really look at them..... but nevermind, will get my copy today and enjoy the hell out off that photo-mode !!!
 

Fredrik

Member
Thunderbear said:
Well, it's a bit more complicated than that.

15 year olds can sleep with each other and with 16 and 17 year olds. 18 or 20 year olds are not allowed to sleep with 15 year olds.
Seriously? I remembered when me an my class mates turned 15 and all that everyone said was "wohoo now I can have sex!". Period. "Byxmyndig" was the word for it in swedish. There were never any talk of how old the other one needed to be, except over 15 of course.
On the other hand. Taking a photo of your naked 15 year old girl friend in seductive poses was a bad thing. This was 1991 though, maybe something has changed since then.

Anyhow, this is an Epic fail for Tecmo. Theh should never have given the characters an age. Physically they don't look 16 so why say they are? Stupid
 

Brobzoid

how do I slip unnoticed out of a gloryhole booth?
The Spoony Hou said:
And I thought NoE was much better than NoA... They really need to stop being pussies.
this isn't NoE - it's Bergsala, the Scandinavian distributor for Nintendo.
 

RpgN

Junior Member
Their real age is so fake anyways, they don't look like 16-17, so is it for the pedo people in Japan? If so, they should have changed it for the West and give them some proper age since the beginning of the franchise. And less bouncy breasts is welcome, it's so embarrassing to see devs trying to come up with childish gimmicks to appeal to the 14 year old male crowd in this day and age.

BTW, I checked Kasumi's and Ayane's age on Dimensions and it says not available. This is the Dutch copy. Couldn't they do it for the Swedish copy as well?

Thunderbear said:
Well, it's a bit more complicated than that.15 year olds can sleep with each other and with 16 and 17 year olds. 18 or 20 year olds are not allowed to sleep with 15 year olds.

That sounds so messed up 0_0
 

spons

Gold Member
Another victim of the child pornography hype. If you like to tear an 8 year old apart you're a pedophile, this game doesn't come close to anything resembling children. It's ludicrous since pedophiles aren't supposed to be attracted to mature bodies anyway, otherwise you aren't one. Above all, nothing about this game is real so who gives a shit?
 

Sethos

Banned
Okay, that's messed up. At least here in Denmark, zoophilia is legal ( Sex with animals ).

Guess that makes up for it, eh? I'm off to sodomize a sheep - brb
 

def sim

Member
spons said:
Another victim of the child pornography hype. If you like to tear an 8 year old apart you're a pedophile, this game doesn't come close to anything resembling children. It's ludicrous since pedophiles aren't supposed to be attracted to mature bodies anyway, otherwise you aren't one. Above all, nothing about this game is real so who gives a shit?

On the other hand, the developers should just make it so they're 18. It's not that big of a deal, makes them less creepy, and they'll be able to release their game everywhere without changes this way.

Having read how Itagaki is like, there's definitely no other reason why he made them underage but to be a creeper. Change it and be done with it.
 

kiryogi

Banned
Jigsaw said:
nisa actually did that in atelier rorona,she was 14 in the japanese version and 17 in the american version

NISA did same for Ar Tonelico Qoga too. Haha... >_< I really believed they were legal. Then later on I looked at jp profile and was shocked XD
 

Xyphie

Member
Hahahahaha fuck this piece of shit country

Edit: Read through the FB thread, even funnier now. This country and its morality laws *sigh*
 

Enkidu

Member
As far as I understand it, this is not the Swedish government telling Nintendo they can't release the game, but rather some random guy saying that if they release the game he will report it. Nintendo didn't want to take any chances and decided not to release it. The guy who said he would file the report had already spoken to Swedish police about it and they told him his case was too weak as they didn't think it could be counted as pornography.
 

wsippel

Banned
RpgN said:
That sounds so messed up 0_0
The laws try to prevent exploitation. It's similar in Germany, where the age of consent is 14 if both partners are minors, and 16 if the partner is an adult.
 

miksar

Member
What is the age of consent in Japan? I remember reading it is 13, but I'm not sure if it is correct, though it would explain everything.
 

Dambrosi

Banned
So I see nobody bothered to actually read the OP. Typical.

The case stems from a forum poster who noticed that three Dead or Alive: Dimensions characters - Kasumi, Koroke and Ayane - violated Swedish law by being under 18 and in a pornographic situation. The pornographic situation in this case being the Figure Mode, where the posing girls can be photographed from every angle.

The author of the report had no intention of outlawing the game. The aim instead was to highlight why the child pornography law should be changed. The author took his report evidence to the police who dismissed it as "lacking" in evidence. Underage girls in thongs, the police concluded, do not equate to porn.
Nintendo's Scandinavian distributor grossly overreacts to forum post, more at 11.
 

Korigama

Member
miksar said:
What is the age of consent in Japan? I remember reading it is 13, but I'm not sure if it is correct, though it would explain everything.

That is what it's set at nationally, but prefectures can and (IIRC) typically do have ordinances that raise it to 18.
 

Ledsen

Member
Draft said:
Socialists.

Sweden isn't socialist anymore. This is just Bergsala overreacting.

RpgN said:
That sounds so messed up 0_0

Why is it messed up? The reason adults can't sleep with children is because an adult is more likely to exploit or force the child. You can't stop 15+ children from sleeping with each other though. Honestly I thought it worked the same in most other countries. What's the age of consent in the US?
 

RpgN

Junior Member
Ledsen said:
Why is it messed up? The reason adults can't sleep with children is because an adult is more likely to exploit or force the child. You can't stop 15+ children from sleeping with each other though. Honestly I thought it worked the same in most other countries. What's the age of consent in the US?

Oh, I misunderstood what was being said. I thought only 15 year olds could sleep with each other, 16 with 17 only etc. That would have been really silly XD

Here in Holland it's pretty similar but a lot of people don't give a crap unless it's used in courts.
 
rezuth said:
This is a joke, why would they even do this?

you seem to have got merged. well, to bring you up to speed, Nintendo has NOTHING to do with the game not being sold there. their distributer does. not the same thing
 

kinoki

Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
Tangetal to this we had a case a few months back, here in Sweden, which concerned a mother who was suspicios of her husband molesting her children. So, she filmed him, in secret, mistreating their children to which the police-system arrested her for possession of child pornography and the father got custody of the children. Sweden works in mysterious ways. This is in no way surprising.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
If a woman says she's 20, and looks 16, she's 12.

If she tells you she's 26, and looks 26, she's damn near 40.

Also they can totally solve this by adding two years to the value in the "age" field across the board. Why cancel the whole game?
 
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