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DQIX TO DS. DS WINS NEXT GEN WAR! (DQ gets cash cowed!)
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TheKingsCrown
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ethelred said:
I'm a business booster more than a Nintendo booster. I guess we'll see who is right: If DQIX is, sometime in the future, announced for Wii and we don't see changes to the game that take advantage of the Wii (besides just menu stuff), I'll accept a permanent ban.
Mr. Pointy
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I can see DQIX being released for PS2 a year into the PS3's lifespan as most likely happening. The PS2 has a massive user base and at least another 18 months of life in it, so >3 million people in Japan will still buy it for that console or PS3. And as mentioned before, DQ does not require realistic graphics.
Also; this is a personal thing I might add, DQ games tend to be grouped in trilogies. Although VII and VIII are standalone stories, it would be odd see the final part off on another console.
So DQIX for PS2, DQX for Wii.
Also; this is a personal thing I might add, DQ games tend to be grouped in trilogies. Although VII and VIII are standalone stories, it would be odd see the final part off on another console.
So DQIX for PS2, DQX for Wii.
TheKingsCrown said:
Hey, look, I'm not trying to get you banned or to engage in one of those silly bets this forum's so obsessed with.
I'm just saying you're wrong.
You're wrong when you say Dragon Quest is in need of any kind of serious change or overhaul, when the series thrives on sustaining a sense of traditionalism. Japanese consumers probably wouldn't even be able to accept many of the slightest, minor cosmetic changes that were made to Dragon Quest VIII for American fans, such as the redone menu system.
You're wrong when you say that Square Enix likely thinks it needs any of the ludicrous things you suggest, such as real-time combat or wiimote-waving spellcasting. Square Enix has never shown anything other than full confidence in the ability of Yuji Horii to personally manage this series, and he's going to keep running it the same way he always has -- by letting Dragon Quest be Dragon Quest. Spinoffs are well and good, and Horii will continue to allow experimentation through those (seriously, I think the game you want and should be looking forward to is Dragon Quest Swords), but the actual series? Not going to change. No push for it to change. No desire for it to change.
And you're wrong when you suggest that shifts the market is undergoing will in some way necessitate any kind of overhaul in the Dragon Quest series. Certainly new consumers are being brought in, and some things that were once popular are declining in popularity. But anyone with a serious eye towards the Japanese market can also see that the value of traditionalism is as strong as ever -- look no further than the successes of Final Fantasy III, or Tales of Destiny R, or Pokemon Diamond/Pearl, or New Super Mario Bros.
Dragon Quest will always be Dragon Quest, until the three men who have maintained exclusive control over every aspect of the eight main series installments are all dead.
Now, Dragon Quest IX may well appear on the Wii -- it's likely to have a very significant Japanese userbase, and that's a key point; it allows Square Enix to better leverage its franchises between the different hardware manufactuers, to force some level of equalization between them and increase Square Enix's influence in the market; it's a fairly low development cost platform where there wouldn't be any expectation for huge graphical achievements, something the next DQ isn't going to attempt to deliver no matter what console it calls home. But if it does, it's still going to be the same old
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The counterbalancing point to this is that if DQIX appears on the PS3, it's not going to be a graphical powerhouse. It's not going to be the PS3's answer to Blue Dragon. That's why I think the silly partisan wars over it are so pointless -- it'll be the same game no matter what system they put it on.
If it's announced this early, though, I'd go with PS2, under the expectation that they've likely been developing it for a while now and aren't prepared to declare DQ for either next-gen platform -- which is, I'd say, to Wii's favor, if they're that unsure of how the console war will shape out in the future.
Smiles and Cries
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so monday night should be fun around here... waiting for news
TheKingsCrown
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This is awesome
TheKingsCrown
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I know I'm a Nintendo fanboy and it would appear that I am arguing in support of Wii features because I care, but I am really not doing such a thing. I am saying the changing industry gives reason for pause and consideration with this title considering the strange things going on, even in Japan:Error2k4 said:
PSP selling as much as PS3 and thus PS2 selling more
Wii selling more
DS toppling the Japanese
New ideas (Brain age) crushing old (Final Fantasy III) in sales.
Ethelred, I do not dispute the case for traditionalism. But I think the traditional value of certain things might be being eroded as we speak by the monster that is DSLite and by where sales are going and are not going on that platform. While DS may not be able to predict console trends a majority of the time, it certainly gives pause in some respects, does it not?
TheKingsCrown said:
Considering that FFIII has surpassed the sales of any Square Enix game on the GBA, considering that Mana DS passed Mana Advance, that DQH DS is just slightly below DQH Advance, considering that they have a good shot at a second million seller in DQM Joker...
If anything, the DS is validating Square Enix's place in the marketplace more than ever.
TheKingsCrown
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ethelred said:
I agree to a certain extent, although they did "change" the title in terms of its graphics. I haven't played the game yet (too much work, it is sitting around) so I don't know if they did anything else on DS with it. I don't know, I just feel as though things are changing very very quickly right now and logic of old is no longer applicable, even in the steeley traditionalism of S-E.
Chris Michael
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Slime Mori Mori 3 FTW
I wonder if they'll ever make some DQ remakes for the DS.
Is this a joke post or is there something I'm missing? DQ PSP am confirmed?!
I wonder if they'll ever make some DQ remakes for the DS.
Jonnyram said:
Is this a joke post or is there something I'm missing? DQ PSP am confirmed?!
Morbid Angel
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Error2k4 said:
O rly?
What if * gasp * someone doesn't own all systems?
nelsonroyale
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I only played dqviii and I enjoyed it...I dont think we will see dqix for a while...it will probably sell regardless of system...ps3 could be a possibility but down the road...with wii spin offs...I just think the ps3 or 360 would be more fun for an rpg developer to play with in terms of aesthetic design...of course the wii control would offer some nice stuff...but Im not convinced I need much motion control in an rpg...control has never been a problem
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Prime crotch
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All I know is whoever gets DQIX it's console is going to sell like crazy.
gamergirly
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ethelred said:
Yeah. Might be able to see a Chrono game next year revealed or something.
AndoCalrissian
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Might be ports of the SNES ones to GBA a la FF.TheKingsCrown said:
Greenpanda
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TheKingsCrown said:
No, and DQ VIII's sales would tend to indicate that the game-buying public at large doesn't think it does, either.
Morbid Angel
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Pellham said:
Grecco said:
Lack of reading comprehension FTL.
He asked why would you care what system the game comes out for and I told him the reason. That's all.
For VIII, SE made some pretty significant changes compared to VII, and of course compared to the earlier titles. I'd be flabbergasted if they didn't reuse the same engine (or something extremely similar) for IX.
And please, let DQ be DQ. I'm fine with FF reinventing itself each new iteration, let it be the series for that kind of change, and let DQ maintain its tradition. That's one reason it always sells so massively in Japan.
And please, let DQ be DQ. I'm fine with FF reinventing itself each new iteration, let it be the series for that kind of change, and let DQ maintain its tradition. That's one reason it always sells so massively in Japan.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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We are thinking only on PS2, Wii and PS3, and perhaps Square-Enix will announce a Dragon Quest Game for Nintendo DS, that has a montser-userbase with a monster-grow.
Segata Sanshiro
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We generally prefer the term 'millionaire playboys'.
AndoCalrissian
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Yeah, I'm all for DS versions, but it's obviously much cheaper to port them to GBA and they still sell well, so I'd see that as more likely.Pellham said:
AndoCalrissian
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Is this a translation? There's already another DQ game coming for DS, and DQ slime has already released.Mithos Yggdrasill said:
Kobun Heat
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I'm not necessarily saying it's DQIX, but I don't think they'd have a whole big event advertised in the newspaper just to show off what you're suggesting.duckroll said:
duckroll said:Yes but it's more realistic than pretty much every other theory on this thread so far besides DQIX, don't you agree?
Yes.
While I don't doubt that Square Enix has plenty more DQ DS games in planning or development (their FF release schedule establishes that), those would more likely than not just be revealed in Jump, not at a live event.
I'm still going to go with DQIX for PS2, myself.
OokieSpookie
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I think it is about time that PSP got some Square love (Crisis Core not included).
Chris Michael
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Ugh no more Wii games. If SE is going to support a Nintendo system make it DS exclusively please. Unless it's for the VC or something.
nelsonroyale
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Vargas said:
only if your hot, female and under 30...no internet fronting either
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dont think they will just yet announce another dq wii game.....i mean dqs still has none release date, why should theay already announce the next wii dq game ?
i think ist dq9 for ps2 or a dq remake for ps2/ds...
sry, no new wii game
i think ist dq9 for ps2 or a dq remake for ps2/ds...
sry, no new wii game
OokieSpookie
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Dascu said:
And you honestly think that a DQ game would not give the psp a significant boost as FFVII:CC will even if it is temporary?
There is something to be said for trying to farm a new market.
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