El Fuerte and Vega provide fairly similar case studies of salt TBH.
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Fighting Games Weekly | Aug 3-10 | Rising to the Occasion
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any fellow FGWers own arcade hardware?
i used to have a SF2WW board, nice and easy JAMMA - miss the simplicity! been (very) slowly getting a VF3 board up and running over the past 10 months. got sound working last night, just need a new wiring harness for the controls and it's good to go.
having seen the 3S hardware, getting a supergun for that game seems like it'd be a breeze. pretty pricey tho, i'd imagine.
i used to have a SF2WW board, nice and easy JAMMA - miss the simplicity! been (very) slowly getting a VF3 board up and running over the past 10 months. got sound working last night, just need a new wiring harness for the controls and it's good to go.
having seen the 3S hardware, getting a supergun for that game seems like it'd be a breeze. pretty pricey tho, i'd imagine.
RockTurtle
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because you can tell how well a street fighter character is by trying to apply their movesets to SF2 and see if it's viable and not broken in any way.
if you can explain how fuerte would work in SF2, i will accept him.
Kappa/s
sixteen-bit
Member
consolized mvs count?
i think i wanna get a Naomi 2 and VF4 Final Tuned some day. Do you know if they're finicky/problematic?
I find vega way more annoying the fuerte, well depending on who i'm playing as. Hugo has an easier time, Brick Shit house , beats a lot of shenanigans if you don't churn butter all the time.
MiniBossBattle
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Would I like Danganronpa FGW gaf?
CoyoteSpitfire
Member
Why are you unable to grasp that other people don't like a character?
Naw NAOMI2 is rock solid from what I've heard. Only thing is, if you're getting FT, you'll need the disc drive and a NET DIMM board as well. 4EVO and vanilla 4 have cart releases so they're hundreds of dollars cheaper. food for thought!
Source of gif please and that's the reality of it, people who grind the game day in and out. Even then, most of them don't perform that well at tournaments because of how crazy the competition is.
Why don't you ever add me?
It's my favourite anime of all time.
Ranma Bros unite!
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
sixteen-bit
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I feel u, but the allure of FT not having a home port makes me want it so much more :V
understandable
i know a few guys who have undergone this life decision so lemme know if you decide to go through with it
in retrospect a NAOMI2 might've been a better choice than getting a SEGA MODEL 3...
buuuuuuut I feel like an archaeologist, digging deep into uncharted territories
I'd rather play against ST Vega than Ultra Fuerte.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Don't lie to yourself.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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It's my favourite anime of all time.
Ranma Bros unite!
A Ranma 1/2 fighting game that has stage water hazards would be amazing!
you are alone on that one
DryEyeRelief
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It's not rocket science. Fighting game convention is that a player is able to receive reward (damaging the other guy) by putting themselves in the position to do so. For a game that takes largely on the ground, you have a character that can initiate overhead/command grab mixups from a run cancel into a jump arc. In Seth Killian's own words, to fight fuerte, it isn't about position. It's about weathering the storm.
And he has Ex Headbutt as a reversal with a TAP input.
He probably plays the character
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26822683
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Sol unblockables?
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Sol unblockables?
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People don't like playing against a character that goes against the conventions of the game they are playing. El Fuerte makes you play his game, it's as simple as that. He can throw out coins in the neutral with runs into jump into whatever mix up and when you get hit once you have to go up against even more coin flips.
It's like the hate for Phoenix that still persists today despite the character not even that strong and is played differently than she was 5 years ago. Phoenix still alters the win condition and format of the game to her advantage which forces the other play to play her game because of the resurrection mechanic.
Also El Fuerte makes some stupid as fuck sounds while moving around and doing his moves.
It's like the hate for Phoenix that still persists today despite the character not even that strong and is played differently than she was 5 years ago. Phoenix still alters the win condition and format of the game to her advantage which forces the other play to play her game because of the resurrection mechanic.
Also El Fuerte makes some stupid as fuck sounds while moving around and doing his moves.
only reason I don't like playing against Eileen ^
Don't mock the sound of his people.
Looks like it's taking advantage of the opponent being left in a weird pre-throw freeze state if Dragon Install ends right as you're throwing them and interrupts you.
Lostconfused
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You'd die from anime overdose.
Karsticles
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I don't hate Fuerte, but I think it's just that:
1) The SFIV vortex sucked. A lot.
2) El Fuerte is 25% YOLO neutral, 75% vortex.
notworksafe
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Calm down, son. I just want you to use your words.
Like this.
Nope. I just get tired of the same nonsense of "stupid" "annoying" "obnoxious" and other, censored on GAF, one note comments. It's lazy nonsense that isn't any better than "fireballs are spamming"
Holy Order Sol
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so you wanted shit repeated at length specifically for you
Fuerte should have a mute option though, along with english/japanese. Especially for that chicken costume.
I think he just wanted an actual explanation.
notworksafe
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I wanted people to actually explain themselves. It's almost like I'd expect people who spend their time in a thread about fighting games to be able to articulate their thoughts in more than single note whines.
EDIT: To further clarify, I've never had an issue fighting against Fuerte, which is why I was curious. As long as you don't play his game and just go at him, he doesn't have much to counter you other than ex qbomb.
MiniBossBattle
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Lostconfused
Member
What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.
CoyoteSpitfire
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You could get that without being condescending.
notworksafe
Member
I apologize for that, but when you do this
you should expect it back.
Rolling Girls. It's not really worth watching.
notworksafe
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Only have two in the house right now:
OG TTT1 machine. All original parts, american sticks and all. Sadly, there's some tearing on the side art but otherwise it's in very good shape.
Area 51 machine converted to Naomi with a custom made top panel w/ Sanwa parts and cup holders. Only a few games for it: Virtua Tennis, CVS1, and Project Justice.
I've got a GDROM and secondary power supply but its been giving me trouble and I've not yet managed to get it working reliably. Whenever I do get it working, I've got a copy of CVS2 ready to go.
Used to have a Reproduction MVS4 with Universe firmware, but no longer. Also looking into an older CPS2 cab being sold locally but having some issues negotiating price.
Naomi is some of the most finicky and obnoxious arcade hardware out there. It requires exacting levels of power that will take a while to adjust properly. Also there are a few different types of JAMMA I/O converters. Depending on which one you pick, you'll need a secondary power supply that will also require exact levels of power to run your GDROM. GDROM is just a general pain in the butt. This is without getting into the bizarre errors that don't actually mean what the error message says among other oddities. However once you get it working, you're rewarded with some kickass games
CoyoteSpitfire
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Fair enough. But, that was in response to this:
I took your sarcastic comment as an insult. But, in any case, I also apologize for overreacting to your comments.
notworksafe
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No harm no foul
Lostconfused
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So speaking of circular discussions in FGW, does any Tekken game have a decent tutorial? I went through the DOA5 one yesterday and wasn't really feeling it, that was still just mainly a very long and protracted systems/mechanics tutorial. Doesn't really teach you about playing the game outside of the obvious stagger strings, mixing up your high/mid/low strings, trying to bait holds.
Guess I got more out of watching EVO top 4 I guess, but that game might not be for me either. Still seems super fast close quarters exchanges for majority of everything.
Guess I got more out of watching EVO top 4 I guess, but that game might not be for me either. Still seems super fast close quarters exchanges for majority of everything.
Why not check out youtube for some tutorials?
Aris did some iirc.
Rip and crew did some character specific one's as well.
Tekken is mostly played at mid range than at close range. There isn't much of a block string pressure game in Tekken and the high/mid/low game is more protracted so it's not played much at close range. Also grabs aren't that good in the game especially in T7.
The best Tekken tutorials are the YT videos by Aris.
Lostconfused
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Because I am not that committed to actually picking up the game.
Not to mention that there are many benefits to a well implemented in-game tutorial compared to watching the video. Usually the in-game tutorials have you try out the stuff you are being taught at the same time, letting you experience the physical act of doing the inputs and get some feedback. It provides a better understanding of whats going on with the game,
Like in the case of DOA5 they actually have you fight it at out against various difficulties of CPU or have you execute the lessons taught against a CPU. Of course all that's taught me is that the tutorials didn't teach me shit and I just mashed through them anyway, but it was still valuable feedback in the sense that I knew I didn't learn much of anything.
RIP. Well maybe I'll give it a shot sometime anyway.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
He said a tournament worthy fighter.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Tag 2 has an okay tutorial but it's not anywhere close to ideal. Also Tag 2 being Tag 2.
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