Everyone is looking for something to be outraged over.This is one of the stupidest threads I've seen in a while. The outcries over "censorship" is getting ridiculous.
Square changed a summon model up slightly. It looks better if anything. No one is forcing them to do it to "protect the children". There's no bigger picture here.
We complain about the SJWs looking desperately for things to get outraged over. This isn't any different honestly.
Its just sad how they put far more effort on censoring stuff than fixing the og PC release.This is one of the stupidest threads I've seen in a while. The outcries over "censorship" is getting ridiculous.
Square changed a summon model up slightly. It looks better if anything. No one is forcing them to do it to "protect the children". There's no bigger picture here.
We complain about the SJWs looking desperately for things to get outraged over. This isn't any different honestly.
Your avatar is too sexual, I'm going to talk with Evilore to block it.
I can change it if you REALLY want me to.
I love your avatarI can change it if you REALLY want me to.
Its just sad how they put far more effort on censoring stuff than fixing the og PC release.
Look at what they changed. They didn't spend a ton of effort. It's a minimal change to fix something that looks much more like something that it was never meant to be now that the graphics have been up-resed.
I don't think Square ever meant for it to look like they had naked women with hairy bushes in their original game. But in HD, it really does look like that.
Last I checked, FF8 isn't rated M anyways.
I'm sorry, but this is such a stupid hill to die on.
PC gamersSpeaking of controversy. They put that AtB/Level addition to the game. I wonder who buys a game for 20 euros and turn on cheats from the beginning...
PC gamers
But if I activate it I still can get trophies like in FF7 snd FF9? Lol this.PC gamers
This.Just let artists express themselves. If you don't like it, don't buy the game, and don't try to change something you don't like. Let others have the freedom to enjoy it if they so desire.
Your characterization of not being forced is a bit incorrect. Companies are doing whatever they can to not have to do additional work to get their game approved by Sony. The approval office is located in the United States, which Japanese developers now have to interact with for approval. A process which has both dumbfounded and led to serious confusion for Japanese devs that don’t speak English.This is one of the stupidest threads I've seen in a while. The outcries over "censorship" is getting ridiculous.
Square changed a summon model up slightly. It looks better if anything. No one is forcing them to do it to "protect the children". There's no bigger picture here.
We complain about the SJWs looking desperately for things to get outraged over. This isn't any different honestly.
Your characterization of not being forced is a bit incorrect. Companies are doing whatever they can to not have to do additional work to get their game approved by Sony. The approval office is located in the United States, which Japanese developers now have to interact with for approval. A process which has both dumbfounded and led to serious confusion for Japanese devs that don’t speak English.
So if SquareEnix changed the game on Switch, PS4 and Xbox One, it is Sony's fault? Alright, then
Wasn't it part of some leak that one of the demands of Sony was that the games be censored on all platforms so that they can cover their asses and pretend like it's not their fault?
Good luck trying to make sense of any of this. I'm still trying to figure out how people think the things they think aren't censored weren't censored. But I guess video nasties escape most of them or maybe unrated cuts are just new footage.Where was this said? Source please.
This topic is Ree-worthy. Christ Almighty.
This topic is Ree-worthy. Christ Almighty.
Pages of catastrophizing and handwringing over the most trivial infraction imaginable, all backed with paranoid notions that its part of some nefarious plot to social engineer gamers and gaming.... Sound familiar at all?
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it does, you I meanThis topic is Ree-worthy. Christ Almighty.
Pages of catastrophizing and handwringing over the most trivial infraction imaginable, all backed with paranoid notions that its part of some nefarious plot to social engineer gamers and gaming.... Sound familiar at all?
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Since you seem well versed on this ree thing, by all means tell me the principles and non bitching(trivial) you live by. I'd prefer a non slippery slope or freedom(liberty) arguement please.You should look in the mirror before you make claims like that. Your post is the most ree-worthy thing in this entire thread. How about, instead of bitching that others have principles they stand by, you actually get some?
U-huh. I really need more clarification. Until then, bad shitpost.This topic is Ree-worthy. Christ Almighty.
Pages of catastrophizing and handwringing over the most trivial infraction imaginable, all backed with paranoid notions that its part of some nefarious plot to social engineer gamers and gaming.... Sound familiar at all?
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Is this a shitpost because it said how the person felt with an explanation that went against your opinion or because it had words that amounted to nothing? I await your answer.U-huh. I really need more clarification. Until then, bad shitpost.
it does, you I meanreplace words where applicable
sorry Clear, shitting out "u jus as BAD"'s at the drop of a hat makes you really disingenous, and the only person your callout shames is yourself, because it's that transparent
It said the same thing that previous posts had been saying since, and this thread is not an echo chamber either, everyone had their own opinions. Even clear cut conflicting ones.Is this a shitpost because it said how the person felt with an explanation that went against your opinion or because it had words that amounted to nothing? I await your answer.
*waaah* people are seeing through me, better claim 'me am razionale centrum'Yeah, I'm a filthy "centrist" aren't I, for trying to inject a note of rationality! Very Resetera again.
How am I supposed to jack off now
Good stuff.Nintendo Switch "new experience" Teased
This is poped on my notifications. "More information on 9/12" Nintendo is going non-stop with the Switch, this seems to be their new gimmick for "blue ocean" market... TBH I love these stuff.www.neogaf.com
The thread is a bit of an echo chamber.....censorship bad, but suggestions have also been made. If Siren is truly the issue, what makes a handful of textures this big of a deal? And I reiterate, please explain without the slippery slope argument.It said the same thing that previous posts had been saying since, and this thread is not an echo chamber either, everyone had their own opinions. Even clear cut conflicting ones.
Why not some suggestions for the case, or maybe some examples instead of, you know.. bad shitpost? It's not like a shitpost is bad itself either, it just doesn't add much to the conversation.
This isn't a redundant shitpost? I'm really trying to wrap my head around all this.*waaah* people are seeing through me, better claim 'me am razionale centrum'
Clear, shitting out you "jus' as bad" with "u liek complain" being a checkmark is literally a meme, see macro
willing or delusional, you are very far from and very obviously not anything you claim to be
everyone with a brain sees that
It's not a big deal in my opinion in this case. It just adds to the whole censorship fad that had been going on. Also, if it's not a big of a deal, then why bother to make changes? Why change at all? Clearly there's some stance had been made here.The thread is a bit of an echo chamber.....censorship bad, but suggestions have also been made. If Siren is truly the issue, what makes a handful of textures this big of a deal? And I reiterate, please explain without the slippery slope argument.
give me back my golden pubes =(
How is calmly asking for the slippery slope argument not to be used hostile? I could see I said "you dumb fuck cant use that" an issue.It's not a big deal in my opinion in this case. It just adds to the whole censorship fad that had been going on. Also, if it's not a big of a deal, then why bother to make changes? Why change at all? Clearly there's some stance had been made here.
Still, hostile much with your 'slippery slope argument'? Relax a bit.
It said the same thing that previous posts had been saying since, and this thread are not an echo chamber either, everyone had their own opinions. Even clear cut conflicting ones.
Why not some suggestions for the case, maybe some example instead of, you know.. bad shitpost? It's not like a shitpost is bad itself either, it just doesn't add much to the conversation.
How am I supposed to jack off now
Growing up in 80s Britain i guess you know full well what a video nasty is and how trivial this all sounds in the grand scheme of censorship? How'd your copy of Evil Dead look?What can I say, the main changes made in this remaster are that all the character assets have been upgraded with more detailed ones than the original. Yet the insinuation has been made that they've gone in and specifically targetted a couple of textures for reasons of censorship?
Does that sound plausible or rational, especially when other things of equal prominence and "explicitness" have been left unchanged, e.g Shiva?
The reality is that if you start acting like "everything my side says is right, because we stand for the right values", you are already up fucked river. That's ResetEra in a nutshell, and I'd hate to see this place get sucked into becoming a political mirror-image of that.
I've probably more anti-censorship than most people arguing with me (that's what happens when you grow up in 80's Britain where we had *real* censorship issues to contend with) but that isn't to say I'm going to join every "anti censorship" protest every time it comes up. If I find it to be specious or silly, I'm going to argue that to be the case, because (1) I'm not an ideological drone, (2) I feel that bad "allies" are more damaging to the cause than opponents most of the time, and (3) stupid is just stupid. It'd be hypocritical of me to ignore or handwave it off whilst criticising my actual ideological opponents (PC-zealots. Identitarians, etc) for the same fallacious thinking and bad behavior.
When has censorship NOT been normalized?It leads to normalizing censorship. It excuses nothing.
redundant insofar as stating things twiceThis isn't a redundant shitpost? I'm really trying to wrap my head around all this.
How is calmly asking for the slippery slope argument not to be used hostile? I could see I said "you dumb fuck cant use that" an issue.
What I'm trying to get at is you've been handed censored content, in one form or another, your entire life. How you feel about it is on you, my issue is that 90% of the time you dont even know it or you do and dont care.
Fair enough.How is calmly asking for the slippery slope argument not to be used hostile? I could see I said "you dumb fuck cant use that" an issue.
What I'm trying to get at is you've been handed censored content, in one form or another, your entire life. How you feel about it is on you, my issue is that 90% of the time you dont even know it or you do and dont care.
I'm not familiar with your terminology so I'm gonna need you to explain this ridiculous term to me since what I was asking got ignored.You are "sealioning". Blatantly.
Growing up in 80s Britain i guess you know full well what a video nasty is and how trivial this all sounds in the grand scheme of censorship? How'd your copy of Evil Dead look?
Not much to understand. Is the thing the watch or played what was originally envisioned? No will be the answer a majority of the time.Fair enough.
I don't understand the point of your 2nd paragraph still. Does anything censored handed to me had changed? Is it a necessary change? I don't know.
I lost a lot amount of sentences from refreshing my post lol. Sorry can't type much on phone.What can I say, the main changes made in this remaster are that all the character assets have been upgraded with more detailed ones than the original. Yet the insinuation has been made that they've gone in and specifically targetted a couple of textures for reasons of censorship?
Does that sound plausible or rational, especially when other things of equal prominence and "explicitness" have been left unchanged, e.g Shiva?
The reality is that if you start acting like "everything my side says is right, because we stand for the right values", you are already up fucked river. That's ResetEra in a nutshell, and I'd hate to see this place get sucked into becoming a political mirror-image of that.
I've probably more anti-censorship than most people arguing with me (that's what happens when you grow up in 80's Britain where we had *real* censorship issues to contend with) but that isn't to say I'm going to join every "anti censorship" protest every time it comes up. If I find it to be specious or silly, I'm going to argue that to be the case, because (1) I'm not an ideological drone, (2) I feel that bad "allies" are more damaging to the cause than opponents most of the time, and (3) stupid is just stupid. It'd be hypocritical of me to ignore or handwave it off whilst criticising my actual ideological opponents (PC-zealots. Identitarians, etc) for the same fallacious thinking and bad behavior.
I was actually working in a shop around that time, so I got to see the Video Nasty furore up close and personal. What most people don't know is how utterly chaotic it was pre-VRA. Every week we'd be scanning video trade weekly for which films were on the DPP list that week, and pulling them off the shelves, putting them back up again, all the while renting bootlegs and hardcore porn to regulars from behind the counter.
Fun times, then VRA happened and it all went to shit overnight...
I'm not familiar with your terminology so I'm gonna need you to explain this ridiculous term to me since what I was asking got ignored.