Amazing Mic
Neo Member
I'm waiting for the arrival of a couple playlists, yet fear they'll be taken away 2 weeks later. I would like to see consolidation rather than removal.
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I guess cause that's the next best playlist, but inevitably they're gonna remove that in a week too and we'll be left with nothing :/
I guess there's the Crimson DLC playlist too but eh.
Also, do TUs drop on Tuesdays too or can they go out whenever?
The thing that bothers me is Virgin Gaming ran (well they didnt) a Millon Dollar Battlefield 3 tourney and nothing came about it.
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Are you forgetting who turned Halo Reach's BTB into 99% Slayer and Heavies?
I don't know why they keep saying "SWAT will be back for another week!" as if it is some kind of surprise. It's a practically a permanent playlist at this point.
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If SWAT sucked it wouldn't have been one of the most popular playlists since halo 2.
Yeah, the fact that their UI is inhibiting what updates they can make to the game is insane. Especially since the UI from halo reach was perfect. 343 just likes to mess with things that are good.
Nah, spops is pretty bad. Karl had a great post on it a few days ago, you should read it.
CrazedArabMan
Member
No I know 343 did that, I'm just angry they don't realize what a dumb move that was and would hope they would realize to fix it, but yet I'm probably grasping at something they won't do. :/
Ugh, I liked the UI at the beginning but now I absolutely hate it. It is such a mess. 343 took away some things that are very head-scratching that shouldn't have been touched with the menu's being one of them. Once again I know they messed up with weighting heavies so much in BTB, but come on, what happened to these huge games of CTF BTB and what not, the ones where memories were made in Halo 1-3?
Sorry, I enjoy Spops, would have loved FF to be in there as well, but I'm still enjoying Spops, call me crazy but playing with 4 people can lead to some great moments.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Ya and the kill cams still dont work. Fun.
Aggrotek
Member
I'm just used to the idea they think BTB is better with Slayer. Not that their layouts for their BTB maps in this game have me overly excited. Bad flag locations, vehicle heavy, etc.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
So we are at the limit of how many playlists can be live at any one time already? Thats pretty worrying for a team snipers fan...
SWAT isn't in any way "easy" - it's incredibly simple, but that's not the same as easy. It's hard and sort of terrifying. I am also pleased to see that it's a three gun game in pratise, with no clear winner. Pistol, DMR and BR all serve different in-SWAT roles and I enjoy using all of them.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
But i think what he meant by "easy" is that, compared to other modes in Halo, it takes a lot less effort to get kills in that. And generally, people like whatever takes the least effort.
BlueScrote
Member
I can't be the only one who only plays swat for warm up.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Nowhere did anyone say that. They just seem to want to keep the total number of playlists down to prevent Reach's playlistpocalypse.
CrazedArabMan
Member
Yeah, that is another problem as well, the balance is off but I think that is due to some of the implementations they tried to add to this game (ordinance, random weapon spawns, etc...).
I just want my classic BTB Objective back.
Kills isn't no victories.
I tell people who can't headshot adequately because they're sort of new to FPS/Halo to play SWAT to get the hang of headshot height/awareness.
Aggrotek
Member
Yes, this is what I mean. I much prefer the dance involved with advancing and retreating that comes with shields.
Each (King, Ball) are currently sitting at just at or under 2% of the total population (880 players). I can't imagine Oddball is long for this world, either. As soon as the hardcore/MLG/whatever playlist goes up, I'd bet that Team Slayer Pro gets the axe too (1.5% population).
Even CTF is below 5%. Objectives-based Halo is in a very dangerous place right now. The changes made haven't brought any sort of population boom, and some of them might even be keeping older players away (I know that the Flag changes certainly make me lukewarm on the idea of playing CTF). Rapid changes need to be coming in to salvage what's left.
Genesis Knight
Member
So my K/D is 2.0 and the people I play with (who have < 1.0 K/Ds) are saying I rob kills from them and that's how I got it. WTF.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Thats what i meant. If this is the ideal number for them, even after launch when the numbers are at their highest. The likelihood of a permanent Team Snipers playlist is decreasing.
Stinkles. Its Christmas soon. Give me Team Snipes with Beam rifle secondary. And maybe a train set too. Please.
Help a brother out.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Pistol is beast mode in SWAT.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
No it isnt no victories, but your much more likely to enjoy your game after a loss if your plus 10, rather than if you just went -10. In swat, youll get kills regardless so in general even if you lose, youll enjoy yourself.
An hour ago, i played a game of BTB Ragnarok, (big shock) and the whole other team left cause we were destroying them. We had both mantises and for the first time in H4, the game actually ended cause the entire opposing team left.
That happens much less in swat since you can fairly easily turn the tied of battle in that mode just by getting a triple kill.
BuggyDClown
Member
I bet CTF would get more action with a 1 flag option. I mean really, wtf. Why is there no 1 flag.
Strategically, SWAT's the easiest. You literally run around and pop headshots for kills. It's surprisingly simple and requires the least amount of effort to get kills.
However, SWAT's fantastic for warming up, practicing headshots, or improving your reaction time. It's a Halo staple that should always be a playlist.
Where the fuck is Shwatguns?!
Boltshwatguns would be incredible.
You mean like in Halo 2?
You mean like in Halo 3?
You mean like in Halo: Reach?
The individual playlists per gametype was nice to get everyone new introduced to the new objective mechanics Halo 4 had to offer, and I'm guessing, and praying, that they'll soon make Team Objective once they feel players have *gulp* adapted.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
I like having CTF accessible whenever instead of hoping it wins the vote.
Amazing Mic
Neo Member
Yes to dubs- thanks for the find. As for objective- I'd rather deal with a low population or merging rather than a full blown axing.
Low pop > Merging > Axing, IMO
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Yeah, that's an awesome idea. Just need a name for it.
Team Work Together
Team Shared Goal
Team It's More Than Just Killing
I'm sure we can figure out a catchy name for it.
I think I ended up preferring being able to go into King of the Hill and only get King of the Hill.
Honestly think it ends up with more overall people playing Objective than having it under one dead umbrella playlist.
They could stand to have subvariants of the main gametype though.
Gametype variety is one thing, sure. Homogenization within playlists is nice in theory but gets stale quickly, and voting options gave people a sort of "impulse purchase" option when they see something and say "oh hey, I didn't know I wanted this but let's try it!" That's one of the biggest reasons that I'm a proponent of the grab-bag playlist model. King of the Hill is a good example, since it's getting axed. Before Halo 4, I never would have cared about a standalone King playlist, but if it popped up in Reach voting options, every once in a while we'd vote for it as a change of pace. Because that's what those gametypes are, and always have been: secondary filler, at least in matchmaking.
But even fundamentally, the basic changes to how a game of CTF plays now is starting to wear thin on me. This is anecdotal, and pretty specific to a small group of players so I don't expect that it generalizes very well, but the group I play with, a group that played Team Objective 99% of the time for Flag and Bomb, doesn't really have much fun playing the new CTF, and so we stay away from that playlist because just doing mindless Slayer elsewhere is less frustrating.
P.S. bring back assault.
I think my main qualm is that a staple gametype of Halo is now just MIA from matchmaking.
I just don't get the whole "hey lets show off gametypes later so people get hyped". That DOESN'T work. People will stop playing or get rid of your game because there are no solid playlist.
Stinkles, this stinks. I'm going to drive around my neighborhood blaring Puddle of Mud in anger now.
Stinkles, this stinks. I'm going to drive around my neighborhood blaring Puddle of Mud in anger now.
Well I'm pissed too, but what are you going to do when SWAT was supposed to be temp but constantly gets a stay of execution? Rotate the damn playlist out already..
edit: typo
Infinity Slayer
Big Team Battle
Swat
Big Team Battle
- Infinity BTB
- CTF
- Extraction
- Infinity Slayer
- Hardcore Slayer
- Slayer Pro
- Team Snipers
- Team Snipers Pro
- Regicide
- Infinity Slayer FFA
- KotH FFA
- Oddball FFA
- Hardcore FFA
- Dominion
- Extraction
- CTF
- Hardcore Slayer
- Hardcore CTF
- Hardcore KotH
- Hardcore Oddball
Swat
u4ix:
Waypointed CTF with 16 players sounds like a nightmare. If they're gonna do it, some fundamental changes are needed.
Dominion is a BTB-centric gametype (they share maps), not 5v5. It's practically Heavies already, might as well make the past a reality again.
Why no King/Ball in Skirmish?
Waypointed CTF with 16 players sounds like a nightmare. If they're gonna do it, some fundamental changes are needed.
Dominion is a BTB-centric gametype (they share maps), not 5v5. It's practically Heavies already, might as well make the past a reality again.
Why no King/Ball in Skirmish?
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Oh, ok well that makes me happy. Im looking forward to it, it will be nice to play on some new maps.
File it under other mysterious casualties such as Squad Slayer and Action Sack (Reach Edition).
electricpirate
Member
KOTH needed tweaks honestly. Instant respawn is so terrible for that mode .
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