Giolon
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Thanks for the heads up! But what's this Bluecanvas seller?
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Homeworld Remastered |OT| All of this has happened before and will happen again
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Thanks for the heads up! But what's this Bluecanvas seller?
Oh My God don't give me a heart attack like this. WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME INTERNET!
Ah so looking at your post and then the 1 option to buy it I think I see what the publisher is doing. I wonder if they are shipping the books to Amazon and will sale them as a 3rd party seller instead of directly sold by Amazon. I'm wanting to recall the Journey art book was sold that way if my memory is correct.
Now to figure out if I should order 2 of these just to keep one sealed up. *looks at art book shelf full of untouched books* Well, it is Homeworld but they are $60 too...
Haha I hope you're all right Portman 
Blue canvas is a book publisher. They also published the art of journey. See:
Blue canvas is a book publisher. They also published the art of journey. See:
That was included in the CE manual/booklet.
Otherwise you can just print out the PDF that's listed in the OP (along with the HW2 manual)
afternoon delight
Member
236 bound pages of reprinted Homeworld art..... I've waited so long for such a thing to exist......
Giolon
Member
Ah, I see. Well, I bought one!
Mission 5 is pretty straightforward - build a fleet that can beat theirs. Take note of what counters what. To take on all their fighters, Corvettes will serve you well, as will Assault Frigates. Interceptors seem pretty weak at this point. I don't remember if you have Ion Frigates yet at this point, but it will help you take out their Frigates faster.
Odds are, you may just need more ships.
And remember - Salvage Corvettes - anything you can steal, you don't have to pay resources for and you're denying the enemy troops while bolstering your own! Don't feel ashamed to go back to the previous mission so you can finish it better with better knowledge of what's coming.
doctorcdcs
Member
Mission 5 Homeworld Remastered:
I captured the enemy carrier, along with the two battleships.
Thing is..
capturing the carrier was the last thing to do.. and when I finally do so, as soon as it pops out of the mother ship..
it starts spitting out 15 or so enemy scouts in the middle of my fleet.
...the carrier that I captured... that I CAN control..vomiting out enemy scouts like a swarm of bees.
needless to say, I was laughed till it hurt.
I wish I recorded it.
I captured the enemy carrier, along with the two battleships.
Thing is..
capturing the carrier was the last thing to do.. and when I finally do so, as soon as it pops out of the mother ship..
it starts spitting out 15 or so enemy scouts in the middle of my fleet.
...the carrier that I captured... that I CAN control..vomiting out enemy scouts like a swarm of bees.
needless to say, I was laughed till it hurt.
I wish I recorded it.
Speculator
BioWare Austin
Happened to me too, it's last death throes lol.
I feel bad that I've hardly had time to play this. Only up to Diamond Shoals in HW1R, and played a skirmish to confirm that I have no idea what I'm doing any more (as if I've ever been good at RTS). Kinda surprised to see the new multiplayer is just an oldschool barebones lobby though. I would've figured they'd have some simple matchmaking, giving that it's 2015 and all. Maybe in the future?
lol, same thing happened to me. I blew up every other ship on the map, then towed home a couple destroyers and the carrier for my victory. The converted carrier pops out and starts barfing out a swarm of scouts, making my whole fleet go berserk. XD
lol, same thing happened to me. I blew up every other ship on the map, then towed home a couple destroyers and the carrier for my victory. The converted carrier pops out and starts barfing out a swarm of scouts, making my whole fleet go berserk. XD
Pretty cool tribute made by Matt Frith:
Taken from: http://kotaku.com/in-honour-of-homeworld-remastereds-release-and-the-g-1688802335
Taken from: http://kotaku.com/in-honour-of-homeworld-remastereds-release-and-the-g-1688802335
Interesting piece of trivia about the ending of HW1 (spoilers of course) from Arinn Dembo, writer of much of the lore in the manual:
It's actually through her that I learned that originally Kharan S'jet was not supposed to step out of the Mothership upon the liberation of Hiigara as the processes meant to make her the living core of the Mothership was originally meant to be irreversible to add even more to the thematic of exodus akin to Moses who lead his people to the promised land but could not join them there.
Relic felt that was too dark and gloomy of an ending and decided to go with the one we know of where she actually managed to join her people on Hiigara.
Relic felt that was too dark and gloomy of an ending and decided to go with the one we know of where she actually managed to join her people on Hiigara.
That last scene is very poignant. The cutscenes don't mention it but the process being irriversible was very clear in the manual as far as I recall, so when she at the end "survives" extraction from the core is something you didn't expect.
It's unfortunate Relic couldn't realize HW2 story the way they wanted, while it's ok, I feel it had a lot of undeveloped potential and feels disjointed from the first game. When Karan is going to " lead them again" I was like... "why?, wasn't that a one time thing?".
I totally agree with both HW1 and HW2. The former is actually a nice surprise to an otherwise melancholic experience. And in regards to the latter, I also think that the whole "
hyperspace core gave her immortality or prolonged life
If anyone is interested in reading how the actual story in HW2 "should have been", check out the original Dust Wars script:
Lostconfused
Member
Neeeeerds.
bonesmccoy
Banned
The supernova mission was very easy once I turned AA off. I easily captured the cruiser, but didnt bother trying to get the carrier or the destroyers.
Thanks for the response. However, won't going back to build more ships in mission 4 just make mission 5 harder?
Dang the artbooks sure were a quick turnaround! They went up for order last night and I've already gotten a shipping notification for mine. This weekend will be neat to just start up the soundtrack and flip through the artbook (hopefully there are production notes and comments on the art too).
afternoon delight
Member
Aaaaand the artbooks are no longer available for order. I knew it was a good time to snag one.
Hope to see mine soon!
Hope to see mine soon!
AlphaProspector
Member
Damn, that sold out way too fast, couldn't even order it... I do hope they reprint the artbook! And I hope they do put out a soundtrack CD set, a full OST I mean, not those half things or the crime that was Dark Souls 2 "sountrack" where most of the songs were cut brutally compared to the full track rips from within the game files.
So, any words on an ETA for fixes/patches? I guess they may try to tackle most bugs in one swing.
So, any words on an ETA for fixes/patches? I guess they may try to tackle most bugs in one swing.
Giolon
Member
Ok that 2D Homeworld gif is amazing. I want it to be real!
No ETA, but they've stated they're working on fixing crash bugs first and that work is already in progress.
To some degree it could make it harder via the dynamic difficulty balancing between mission - but cases where it helps are when you can build specific counters to what you know will be attacking you early on, or when you don't have access to enough resources at the start of the next mission to build what you need to early enough to take on the enemy.
No ETA, but they've stated they're working on fixing crash bugs first and that work is already in progress.
I would think that the artbook will be reprinted especially if there is that kind of demand for it. Plus if the Journey artbook is still available then I take that as a good sign of another print run or two. I would think that they are gauging the interest as someone else mentioned and will ramp up production for a second run.
Heck, I never went to post on the CAG thread about artbooks and I owe it to them since my shelf is full due to all the great books they track and post the moment they're up for sale.
Edit: The CEs of the game are apparently back up on Amazon.com too (I saw them while hunting any OST details). That reminds me that I need to test mine out to see if the lights work since I read about them having issues so don't buy them all until I can test mine!
Heck, I never went to post on the CAG thread about artbooks and I owe it to them since my shelf is full due to all the great books they track and post the moment they're up for sale.
Edit: The CEs of the game are apparently back up on Amazon.com too (I saw them while hunting any OST details). That reminds me that I need to test mine out to see if the lights work since I read about them having issues so don't buy them all until I can test mine!
AlphaProspector
Member
Edit: The CEs of the game are apparently back up on Amazon.com too (I saw them while hunting any OST details). That reminds me that I need to test mine out to see if the lights work since I read about them having issues so don't buy them all until I can test mine!
Good to see I'm not alone. So, no details about the possible OST release? This disgustingly terrible country I live in only allows for two packages per year to be received without registering as an importer so I want one of those to be the Homeworld OSTs.
I hope it's okay, but I wanted to share some of the shots I've taken throughout the game. The game is really pleasing to the eye:
Gearbox said during one of their PAX presentations that they plan to release soundtracks. Whether it will be digital only or physical as well, I have no idea.
Gearbox said during one of their PAX presentations that they plan to release soundtracks. Whether it will be digital only or physical as well, I have no idea.
Giolon
Member
Excellent shots, Lime!
In playing the Supernova Station mission last night, I started to realize that the game is now much more of a hard rock-paper-scissors than it used to be.
Fighters lose to Corvettes, Corvettes lose to Frigates, Frigates lose to Destroyers, Destroyers lose to Fighters (Attack Bombers). Obviously that's a little simplified, but each of these types are very hard counters to the type that loses to them. Previously, the circle was a bit more ill-defined (to my memory).
Clever use of tactics and unit behavior (aggressive/evasive) could let you take out an enemy where you were at a disadvantage. Now, in many cases that's basically impossible, and you need to - at worst - have an attack force comprised of a matching type, not a losing type.
A couple Destroyers melt through another destroyer in a ridiculously short amount of time. Frigates can't stand up to even a single volley from a destroyer. Interceptors will get utterly demolished by Corvettes. Repair Corvettes can't out heal the incoming damage anymore - and there seems to be a max of like 4 on a destroyer and 2 on a frigate.
On a side-note, I tried a tactic on Supernova Station last night that I've never done before, to hilariously awesome results.
In playing the Supernova Station mission last night, I started to realize that the game is now much more of a hard rock-paper-scissors than it used to be.
Fighters lose to Corvettes, Corvettes lose to Frigates, Frigates lose to Destroyers, Destroyers lose to Fighters (Attack Bombers). Obviously that's a little simplified, but each of these types are very hard counters to the type that loses to them. Previously, the circle was a bit more ill-defined (to my memory).
Clever use of tactics and unit behavior (aggressive/evasive) could let you take out an enemy where you were at a disadvantage. Now, in many cases that's basically impossible, and you need to - at worst - have an attack force comprised of a matching type, not a losing type.
A couple Destroyers melt through another destroyer in a ridiculously short amount of time. Frigates can't stand up to even a single volley from a destroyer. Interceptors will get utterly demolished by Corvettes. Repair Corvettes can't out heal the incoming damage anymore - and there seems to be a max of like 4 on a destroyer and 2 on a frigate.
On a side-note, I tried a tactic on Supernova Station last night that I've never done before, to hilariously awesome results.
At the research station, I flew a carrier high above (out of aggro range), and as I brought my capital ship fleet across the small radiation gap, I descended the carrier and launched a gravity well generator.
The entire wall of Defenders and the entire swarm of corvettes and fighters that spilled out of the enemy carrier were absolutely helpless and got obliterated. I only lost a single frigate. XD
The entire wall of Defenders and the entire swarm of corvettes and fighters that spilled out of the enemy carrier were absolutely helpless and got obliterated. I only lost a single frigate. XD
Edit: The CEs of the game are apparently back up on Amazon.com too (I saw them while hunting any OST details). That reminds me that I need to test mine out to see if the lights work since I read about them having issues so don't buy them all until I can test mine!
Woohoo, just ordered mine. I had given up on getting a CE for one of my favorite games and just happened to see it up on Amazon. Fuck the scalpers!
Wait until they patch it. Gearbox really shit the bed here.
mikekennyb
Member
On the last mission, I can see the end in sight (literally). However my cap ships continue to dance around by continually rotating in circles when I order them to attack, attack move, or even move. Infuriating to hit this bug around formations, AI, whatever it is. The remaster is awesome, and I love Homeworld, but there is some serious jank here.
afternoon delight
Member
The biggest thing for me was the inclusion of the originals in a form that plays well with modern specs.
I am flabbergasted with awestruck love playing the old games.
I am flabbergasted with awestruck love playing the old games.
Lostconfused
Member
Can always just play the original games.
I'm at mission 8 of the original (the one with
, but I can't figure out how to finish it.
Am I missing something? Is the mission bugged?
the motherships / hyperspace inhibitors
I've killed the first mothership and the remaining two have fled to the center of the map. I've followed them, but they just won't die. Every time they get close to dying their hp jumps back up a bit.
Am I missing something? Is the mission bugged?
Giolon
Member
Known bug: https://gearboxsoftware.zendesk.com/entries/62587364-Invincible-Kadeshi-Motherships-in-Mission-08-
I finished Homeworld 1 Remastered last night. I managed to get through the game without hitting any of the known glitches or other issues that I've been reading about. Overall - it was a great experience. Not exactly the same as the original, but not bad.
Once I realized that the game was working under hard counter mechanics, everything became trivial. From about mission 8 onwards, my fleet was basically untouchable. Know what forces the enemy has? Just use the hard counter unit on them. Due to use of Salvage Corvettes, I had 4 Heavy Cruisers by the final mission XD. I only arrived with half as many resources as Lime though, 30,000.
I had forgotten about a lot of the later game missions. The salvage yard
salvage dog fell prey to my newfound love of Gravity Wells. Once I killed one, no more ever spawned? I don't remember if it was that way in the original
After finishing HW1R, I hopped right over into HW2R. I had forgotten how barebones the story of that game starts out. It's nowhere near as compelling as HW1. It was also apparent to me how much more suited that game's mechanics are for the engine - squadrons of fighters all flying in their pre-made formations and obvious, straightforward counter-units for each type of unit without as much of the dual-role overlap from HW1 that now mostly doesn't work.
I'm looking forward to this since I've only ever played through HW2 once.
Are you talking about the Kadesh? I had the same bug, but one of the needle ships was possible to destroy. Once you kill that one the other loses it's invulneravility.
I really feel this wasn't tested. In the original the last inhibitor ship fled only when the other two were destroyed, the idea was to introduce the Khar-toba twist once you followed that last ship, which is why it must be invulnerable until you get to the wreckage, but the triggers are all messy in this version.
Well Gearbox has relied on publishers for Q&A in the past, they really dropped the ball on this one.
They probably should have just released it as early access and let the community do it for them without looking like dbags.
So gearbox is releasing the soundtrack for free for people with the CE, and as DLC (for a pretty hefty price I might say) for the rest.
I really want the CE.
The soundtracks are up on Steam. $7.99 each. MP3 and FLAC. Says that they will send out redemption codes to the CE holders over the next few days. Now it makes sense to me why they had us register the CE codes on a website so they could disperse stuff like this.
So support frigates are now completely stupid and can't aim their repair beam properly. Harvesting in the Super Nova Mission is going to be a huge pain.
edit: holly crap is this mission buggy, the music is gone, I randomly start selecting all ships out of nowhere... this is awful.
edit: holly crap is this mission buggy, the music is gone, I randomly start selecting all ships out of nowhere... this is awful.
Finally got some game time so I sat down to play. Got through Diamond Shoals on the first go, but then didn't have any RUs for trading with the Bentusi before they up and left. So I restarted the mission and got through fine again... except the objective flags are broken this time, so no Bentusi, no mission success, and no time left to do it a third time. Awesome. ( ._.)
