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[poodaddy]

MGS is primarily a Playstation franchise. Only an idiot would deny this. That's where it has sold the vast amount of its games, they have has close ties with the MGS franchise. Sony as a franchise has been featured in cameos in the games themselves over the years.

Happy to be your idiot, and if we're gonna start going personal with insults over such a dumb ass fucking topic, you're coming off like a prepubescent fuck boy console warrior who's booty hole is chaffed and red from some recent acquisition news and is looking to lash out.

I've played through MG 1, MG 2, MGS 1 through 5, and Peacewalker. Wanna take a wild guess on how many of those titles I played on Playstation hardware? It's a number between 1 and 3. Ok look, you seem a little slow so I'll just tell you the answer: 2. 2 titles. I've played through the vast majority of the franchise and I've only played two titles on Playstation hardware. It ain't a Playstation IP padre, sorry to burst your bubble, but more than pleased to see how invested you are in this pointless ass debate.

Warrior on I guess, Go long into that dark knight fighting over your favorite toy box.

 

[oldergamer]

Its a playstation franchise? Was that before it was a Nintendo franchise, or before it was a MSX franchise? You know the MSX, the microsoft PC/gaming system from the 80's in japan?

 

[TGO]

Why not both? Buy Capcom and Konami's IP's
Castlevania by Capcom anyone?

 

[Drewpee]

I don't really think there's any comparison between Zenimax and Konami, but it would be great to see SOMEONE do something with their legendary IPs. Hell, maybe Sony could even add a clause to give them exclusive pachinko rights. Everybody wins.

Would you want Sony to buy Konami? I'd love to see someone make a decent Castlevania or Metal Gear, and we all know it's not going to be Konami.

Edit: Here's a story on it: https://gamerant.com/sony-buy-konami/

I dont think Sony wants to play this game anymore.

 

[John Mullins]

Happy to be your idiot, and if we're gonna start going personal with insults over such a dumb ass fucking topic, you're coming off like a prepubescent fuck boy console warrior who's booty hole is chaffed and red from some recent acquisition news and is looking to lash out.

I've played through MG 1, MG 2, MGS 1 through 5, and Peacewalker. Wanna take a wild guess on how many of those titles I played on Playstation hardware? It's a number between 1 and 3. Ok look, you seem a little slow so I'll just tell you the answer: 2. 2 titles. I've played through the vast majority of the franchise and I've only played two titles on Playstation hardware. It ain't a Playstation IP padre, sorry to burst your bubble, but more than pleased to see how invested you are in this pointless ass debate.

Warrior on I guess, Go long into that dark knight fighting over your favorite toy box.

Seems you are the butt hurt fanboy, padre. Listen to yourself... I'm just stating facts. It has appeared and sold more on PS than any other console.

 

[itsjustJEFF]

Do they think this is gong to work?

 

[Gamerguy84]

Sony isn't going to react and buy a huge studio because MS did.

Despite the MS parades being thrown in here today I dont think these companies react because a gamer got mad. If they did someone would have already nuked the other side.

 

[IfuckinghateReddit]

> " it would be great to see SOMEONE do something with their legendary IPs."

Yep, I actually agree with this completely.

There are a ton of great IPs just going to waste.

 

[bender]

Sony isn't going to react and buy a huge studio because MS did.

Despite the MS parades being thrown in here today I dont think these companies react because a gamer got mad. If they did someone would have already nuked the other side.

Yup. Sony doesn't have the net worth to compete in an acquisition war anyway. It does make me wonder how much allowance Phil was given for his shopping list.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Sony doesn't need to buy a new studio, they just need to continue focusing on making high quality games with the studios they have.

I would like to see them buy one or two IPs from Konami, but I don't see a reason for them to buyout Konami entirely. They don't make games anymore.

 

[Stealth_Cobra]

Why would anyone buy a terrible company like Konami ? Yes they have a couple cool IPs , but the actual Konami studios have devolved into pachinko making zombies that can't make a proper game to save their own lives. Besides, Kojima is free to make all the games he wants with Kojima Productions now, including horror games akin to Silent Hill and Other Action Adventure games akin to MGS if he feels like it, there's already bloodstained as a Castlevania alternative... Just let Konami die with their once beloved franchises becoming glorified pachinko fodder.

 

[junguler]

well, i can't fault them for wanting things but i don't think sony has that kind of money to spend just to appease some fans on the internet.

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

I swear Sony fanboys are a bunch of smooth brains. At least ask Sony to but Square Enix or Capcom or Sega...But Konami, really???

 

[apocaliptic]

To buy Konami, Sony will have to spend the same money that Microsoft spent for Zenimax. Is s Konami worth it?

 

[Itachi87]

Why does anybody want this? Big corporations eating up all the game studios. No more major game studio acquisitions please from anyone.

 

[kingpotato]

I noticed a lot of threads that could use the cringe tag today lol

 

[Piku_Ringo]

Why does anybody want this? Big corporations eating up all the game studios. No more major game studio acquisitions please from anyone.

Cause war is serious business, meng.

 

[Jboemios]

Do it sony. So MS has to counter attack and buy Capcom

 

[Compsiox]

Imagine cheering on acquisitions of major healthy companies.

 

[itsjustJEFF]

Yup. Sony doesn't have the net worth to compete in an acquisition war anyway. It does make me wonder how much allowance Phil was given for his shopping list.

I do wonder this as well, how much rope have they given Phil? The other question I have is, how much time does Phil have to recoup on these Billions?

 

[BattleScar]

This is fucking tragic.

Yes, lets just let the two dominant players in the gaming industry buy up the every last publisher major game publisher/studio one bit at a time and end up with an effective oligopoly.
That's just great.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

as in? what part of their studios did not grow grass roots wise with proper time, management, new hires etc to then be what they are today and successful. Where has MS had growth with their own studios? If anything old studios that once left and had IP's under different studios which used to be pillars are no longer as strong as they were such as gears, halo, no idea what to expect from fable etc.

So yes MS has a long way of growth still to actually compete with nintendo and sony.

Where's MS had growth with their studios? So, Playground don't exist? Turn 10 doesn't exist? You want to extend that to 3rd-parties they've had established relationships with, like Moon Studio (the Ori series)? You don't think they've had growth due to working with MS?

Your last comment is mindless; MS are already competing with Sony and Nintendo, they're just not making the specific type of genre games Sony and Nintendo are known for. And that's okay, because if they did then what would be the point? Do they need to put stuff like Battletoads under more QA? Absolutely. But pretending games like Battletoads are their level of quality in 1st-party offerings when genuinely strongly well-received games like FS2020 literally came out the same year, is at best blissful ignorance.

People need to also keep in mind that not all of Sony's or even Nintendo's 1st-parties are smash hits that resonate with the masses. ARMS was a cool IP but I doubt Nintendo ever makes a sequel, and while critics (many for questionable reasons) waxed poetry over The Last of Us 2, the consensus among many regular gamers is that it was a disappointing sequel especially narratively speaking (and not really innovating much in terms of gameplay if you want to look aside from the story elements).

Just carbon-copying Sony and Nintendo's game models won't do MS any favors. Honestly, I think with today's news especially, that they know where their creative chops are at: WRPGs and simulators (which is why they need to consider buying Asobo if possible), along with racing games and strategy games. Those seem to be the strongest genres for MS, and they can run the gamut of presentation styles (single-player story-driven, multiplayer MMORPG, 1st-person, 3rd-person etc.).

 

[VN1X]

Man this next-gen the fanboy fever is stronger than ever! There's going to be so many kids bullied and beat up at schools across the globe everywhere!

 

[bender]

I do wonder this as well, how much rope have they given Phil? The other question I have is, how much time does Phil have to recoup on these Billions?

I was trying to find data without any luck. For reference, Mojang was 2.5B in 2014.

Ninja Theory	2018​
Play Ground Games	2018​
Undead Labs	2018​
Compulsion Games	2018​
Obsidian	2018​
InXile	2018​
Double Fine	2019​
Zenimax	2020​	7.5B

Those other studios pale in comparison, but I'm assuming Game Pass is bleeding money while in customer acquisition mode. 10B+ war chest to throw around sure is interesting.

 

[itsjustJEFF]

I wouldn't call Konami's video game


I was trying to find data without any luck. For reference, Mojang was 2.5B in 2014.

Ninja Theory	2018​
Play Ground Games	2018​
Undead Labs	2018​
Compulsion Games	2018​
Obsidian	2018​
InXile	2018​
Double Fine	2019​
Zenimax	2020​	7.5B

Those other studios pale in comparison, but I'm assuming Game Pass is bleeding money while in customer acquisition mode. 10B+ war chest to throw around sure is interesting.

Oh yea, i think you could add up all the other studio purchases and it would still be below the Zenimax price tag. I'm sure Xbox has their projection of how many GamePass users they need to hit A. Start even attempting to pull even and B. Cover future game development costs. It's such an interesting business model. Xbox now has 23 studios, they will all have a yearly budget. You're right that Xbox will be bleeding money in the meantime, while GamePass builds it's subscriber base. It would be so interesting to see their projections. Plan A, Plan B, Plan C. It would be amazing insight. All the while, Microsoft will be there watching.

 

[Memorabilia]

The jealousy and desperation of console warriorz never fails to entertain.

1) Konami is garbage
2) Sony doesn't have the money to swing their dick around like this. They run a tight operation by necessity.

They'll be ok. I can't wait to play some Sony exclusives. Everybody needs to take a breathe.

 

[reinking]

This is about as bad as MS fanboys thinking MS bought Zenimax for them. Sorry to break the news but these companies do not buy things because fanboys. They invest for profit. How many people really believe MS is going to go all exclusive with the big titles? They did not invest that much money to fanboy. The invested that much money to make a lot of old white dudes with money more money.

 

[Komatsu]

Sony does not have the cash to get into a rat race with Microsoft, which is a much bigger company. People here don’t understand that Microsoft is literally one of the ten largest companies in the history of capitalism, which is why I have to say this all the time. They have enough cash at hand to buy half of Sony’s nonvoting shares tomorrow, without needing any leverage - not that Japan’s METI would ever allow it.

I am on my phone right now but I suspect the whole Sony keiretsu pulls in less profit (profit, not revenue) than Microsoft’s Business Division (MBD, which covers all their enterprise and productivity software). We are comparing a fox to an elephant.

 

[KURDISTAN YPG]

Dont buy anyone sony fuck the fanboy shit, buy gta exclusive deal for 100 million and is game over for your competition.

you guys have to understand, developers need playstation mire then playstation needs them. 100 million ps4 says hi

 

[KURDISTAN YPG]

Sony does not have the cash to get into a rat race with Microsoft, which is a much bigger company. People here don’t understand that Microsoft is literally one of the ten largest companies in the history of capitalism, which is why I have to say this all the time. They have enough cash at hand to buy half of Sony’s nonvoting shares tomorrow, without needing any leverage - not that Japan’s METI would ever allow it.

I am on my phone right now but I suspect the whole Sony keiretsu pulls in less profit (profit, not revenue) than Microsoft’s Business Division (MBD, which covers all their enterprise and productivity software). We are comparing a fox to an elephant.

See this money arguement is fucking stupid, all that 1.2 billion couldv easily gone into inhouse studios R&D , Sony is just not stupid enough to thro billions at a fkn studio, when you can easily create new ips/ studios for under 500 million

 

[Aguero9320]

Embarrassing.

Sony does need to do something. Buying Konami is not it... Not actually sure what they should do though, bizarrely given the current situation where they are hugely successful they are kind of snookered over the future right now...

But I think that’s what happens when your focus is on winning ‘a generation’ and assuming it will be ever thus.

It won’t. They have just as much chance of becoming the next Sega or Atari or Commodore over the next decade.

 

[Audiophile]

They don't need to buy Konami, just the Metal Gear & Silent Hill rights.

Then Konami can go sit in its casino and collapse.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

To buy Konami, Sony will have to spend the same money that Microsoft spent for Zenimax. Is s Konami worth it?

I don't think so. Zenimax is a much larger company than Konami. But it would be interesting if they reached a deal where Sony could make videogames based on their IPs since Konami isn't.

 

[Synless]

I know I’m in the minority here given the sales of these games but I would be far more happy with Castlevania, MGS, Z.O.E. and Silent Hill than Elder Scrolls, Doom, or Fall Out.

 

[BlvckFox]

LMAOOOOO
Jesus Christ

You would honestly think these people are deeply Invested shareholders.
So bizarre.

 

[Zghia]

Capcom would be a much better target, just do it sony

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

How does this thread not have a cringe tag, seriously.

 

[Maxwell Jacob Friedman]

Where's MS had growth with their studios? So, Playground don't exist? Turn 10 doesn't exist? You want to extend that to 3rd-parties they've had established relationships with, like Moon Studio (the Ori series)? You don't think they've had growth due to working with MS?

Your last comment is mindless; MS are already competing with Sony and Nintendo, they're just not making the specific type of genre games Sony and Nintendo are known for. And that's okay, because if they did then what would be the point? Do they need to put stuff like Battletoads under more QA? Absolutely. But pretending games like Battletoads are their level of quality in 1st-party offerings when genuinely strongly well-received games like FS2020 literally came out the same year, is at best blissful ignorance.

People need to also keep in mind that not all of Sony's or even Nintendo's 1st-parties are smash hits that resonate with the masses. ARMS was a cool IP but I doubt Nintendo ever makes a sequel, and while critics (many for questionable reasons) waxed poetry over The Last of Us 2, the consensus among many regular gamers is that it was a disappointing sequel especially narratively speaking (and not really innovating much in terms of gameplay if you want to look aside from the story elements).

Just carbon-copying Sony and Nintendo's game models won't do MS any favors. Honestly, I think with today's news especially, that they know where their creative chops are at: WRPGs and simulators (which is why they need to consider buying Asobo if possible), along with racing games and strategy games. Those seem to be the strongest genres for MS, and they can run the gamut of presentation styles (single-player story-driven, multiplayer MMORPG, 1st-person, 3rd-person etc.).

If they've been competing with sony and ms when was their last exclusive that broke top ten, hell when was their last exclusive number 1 on the charts, ill wait.

ill give credit where credit is due the forza team is the ONLY team this gen that kept MS head above water. Their other teams havent grown and have made lack luster content this gen, why do you think most havent seen sequels and why did they suffer massive drop in hardware sales this gen, because they had no exclusive content and the content they had sucked even critically aswell

 

[BeforeU]

lmao wtf

 

[oldergamer]

If they've been competing with sony and ms when was their last exclusive that broke top ten, hell when was their last exclusive number 1 on the charts, ill wait.

ill give credit where credit is due the forza team is the ONLY team this gen that kept MS head above water. Their other teams havent grown and have made lack luster content this gen, why do you think most havent seen sequels and why did they suffer massive drop in hardware sales this gen, because they had no exclusive content and the content they had sucked even critically aswell

what the hell are you talking about? You're ignoring lots of game to try and make your point valid.

 

[Bolivar687]

Konami is really heavy into mobile now iirc. However, there's no reason Sony couldn't buy the core IPs for pennies on the dollar at this point. They could single handedly revive the Vita if they just licensed all of them to indies.

 

[B_Boss]

This is absolutely cringeworthy lol. You can smell the console warrior residue in such outcries . It’s all business. No worries, Sony will do well and I’m pretty sure Xbox will as well .

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

I think people are overreacting a little to this acquisition. Sure, it could give Microsoft a admirable push if they execute things properly, but Sony still seems to be going strong with their current strategy and exclusives.

 

[Clear]

Its a playstation franchise? Was that before it was a Nintendo franchise, or before it was a MSX franchise? You know the MSX, the microsoft PC/gaming system from the 80's in japan?

Metal Gear Solid on the Playstation was its (and Kojima's) breakout moment though. So its fair to say that for most people its likely to be where they really started to take notice of Metal Gear as big brand, and so the platform they associate with it.

 

[OrionNebula]

Do they have a petition to sign, too?

 

[Ritsumei2020]

Lol people are delusional. Konami is too big to be bought by Sony.

 

[Kumomeme]

haha this is funny but i love to see it happens

MGS ip need to be in proper hand.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

They should totally do this and distribute the IPs equally amongst their studios since Konami themselves must only have Winning Eleven staff left.

Give Naughty Dog Snatcher and let them do a new story set in the universe but being a Snatcher is an allegory for being trans. The melt downs will be immense.

 

[JerryinSoCal]

I wouldn't buy Konami and I don't get where this is coming from, console makers shouldn't buy publishers anyway, MGSV was one of the most overrated games of all time and frankly the only series Konami has that I personally would like to see make a comeback is Castlevania, if anything see if they'll sell that IP but don't buy the company.

 

[GhostOfTsu]

Imagine keeping the rights of beloved franchises just so you can make a Silent Hill-themed gym or MGS spa resort or whatever Konami does now.

What's the point? Just sell it to Sony for big bucks.