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[Yoshi]

I don't think that's true, they just wouldn't have released the DS quite so early.

Imo the point wasn't not to release the DS at all, but not to release it as a reaction to Sony and therefore being able to show, that they are able to beat Sony.

 

[Razoric]

every week....

 

[Mama Smurf]

Imo the point wasn't not to release the DS at all, but not to release it as a reaction to Sony and therefore being able to show, that they are able to beat Sony.

Oh I see. Yeah, that makes sense.

 

[Grampa Simpson]

I don't think that's true, they just wouldn't have released the DS quite so early.

I've seen specs and pictures of the Nitro, which is the prototype that the DS was based off of. It was single screened, and was basically a GBA with 3d capabilities.

speculation
It would have been the default buy for those looking for a handheld, but it wouldn't have held the new strategy that Nintendo's been looking at or captured teh imagination of nintendo's internal developments like the DS has.
/speculation

 

[mckmas8808]

I don't think there's anything Sony can do with the PSP. It's seriously over. Seems like that portable was a bad financial decision altogether.

:lol

Their Q1 financials say otherwise.

 

[Shiggy]

I've seen specs and pictures of the Nitro, which is the prototype that the DS was based off of. It was single screened, and was basically a GBA with 3d capabilities.

speculation
It would have been the default buy for those looking for a handheld, but it wouldn't have held the new strategy that Nintendo's been looking at or captured teh imagination of nintendo's internal developments like the DS has.
/speculation

Give us those pictures

 

[Shiggy]

:lol

Their Q1 financials say otherwise.

No, it doesn't.

 

[Mama Smurf]

I've seen specs and pictures of the Nitro, which is the prototype that the DS was based off of. It was single screened, and was basically a GBA with 3d capabilities.

Yeah, Edge had them, what's your point? Nintendo started out making a successor to the GBA that was the same but more powerful, there's a shocker. I don't see any indication that this was changed because of the PSP, I just think it was brought forwards.

speculation
It would have been the default buy for those looking for a handheld, but it wouldn't have held the new strategy that Nintendo's been looking at or captured teh imagination of nintendo's internal developments like the DS has.
/speculation

Everything you said was speculation, you don't need to highlight bits.

 

[cvxfreak]

1980 Yen = $16.95 at this moment.

I said wow.

 

[Kobun Heat]

1980 Yen = $16.95 at this moment.

I said wow.

I'm waiting for the Play-Asia sale

 

[Last Hope]

I am impressed that the Xbox 360 is still selling almost 1500 a week. MS should give themselves a pat on the back. It is still dead in Japan with the PS2 selling more units in a week than the Xbox does a year but it is still an increase from their first attempt.

 

[KINGMOKU]

Okay, now we have one for each system(PSP, DS) And can compare numbers, and the types of games that are in each's top nine;

Whew. Done.

 

[Magicpaint]

I am impressed that the Xbox 360 is still selling almost 1500 a week. MS should give themselves a pat on the back. It is still dead in Japan with the PS2 selling more units in a week than the Xbox does a year but it is still an increase from their first attempt.

Eh, Xbox360 is doing worse than the Xbox.

 

[Archie]

Okay, now we have one for each system(PSP, DS) And can compare numbers, and the types of games that are in each's top nine;

Whew. Done.

:lol Impressive.

 

[Tadaima]

"Chart by Eddz Walsh of www.stabhead.com" is how I read it. Isn't there a stabhead avatar on someone around here?

Yeah, that's me

Mario chart with updated numbers for Famicom SMB and SM64DS:

 

[Walter Matthau]

No, it doesn't.

LOL

 

[Fuzzy]

Okay, now we have one for each system(PSP, DS) And can compare numbers, and the types of games that are in each's top nine;

Whew. Done.

The only charts that matter are how third party software is doing.

 

[neptunes]

 

[elostyle]

I see what you did there.

 

[cvxfreak]

:lol :lol :lol That's pretty mean.

 

[KINGMOKU]

I guess I could do one for the top 20 PSP/DS games in Japan total sales.

Before I do it though, anyone want something specific? Like top30 with pics, or something else? All games, for top sellers all time?

 

[Rock_Man]

Here is a comparison of sales from 2005 and 2006. There were no big software release for PSP last summer and that's why it actually sells way better in July this year. Don't know if I have to mention it, but DS is also selling better now compared to one year ago...

 

[Netrunner2k2]

Here is a comparison of sales from 2005 and 2006. There were no big software release for PSP last summer and that's why it actually sells way better in July this year. Don't know if I have to mention it, but DS is also selling better now compared to one year ago...

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/2377/dspsp0506gd2.png

The DS(L) is making a joke out of what we are used to from sales. Especially summer sales numbers.

 

[apujanata]

Okay, now we have one for each system(PSP, DS) And can compare numbers, and the types of games that are in each's top nine;

Whew. Done.

I have forgotten how big the difference between the software sales of those two platform. Seeing that # 10 of NDS software is bigger than #1 for PSP software is reall shocking.

I hope that Tamagochi 2 is doing better than Tamogochi 1, like Brain Age 2 is doing better than Brain Age 1. And lookin forward to see the result of FF3.

BTW, comparing NDS's third party to PSP's third party is actually comparing NDS's weakness to PSP's strength. It is natural that NDS weakness is < PSP's strength. Should it ever come a day where NDS weakness is > PSP's strength, PSP will start their decline.

 

[LOcKY]

tis a shame there isnt a report on how much profit the 3rd party make on their software on both platforms.

you have to all remember that DS is cheaper to make games compared to PsP

 

[MrSardonic]

DSL - 262,000
PSP - 35,000

Holy ****

 

[typhonsentra]

It's pretty clear that products sell very strictly by brand loyalty. Sony had no chance, there's nothing they could've done that would've garnered more success in Japan against Nintendo's dominance in the market. For Nintendo to loss, they would've had to of been the ones to drop the ball in a dramatic way and they didn't. They priced aggressively early on and rode their already high hardware sales all the way to the top in Japan.

 

[Oblivion]

It's pretty clear that products sell very strictly by brand loyalty. Sony had no chance, there's nothing they could've done that would've garnered more success in Japan against Nintendo's dominance in the market. For Nintendo to loss, they would've had to of been the ones to drop the ball in a dramatic way and they didn't. They priced aggressively early on and rode their already high hardware sales all the way to the top in Japan.

Just so you know, DS has been (and still is) higher priced than the GBA ever was, and on top of that, the DS is selling BETTER than the GBA.

 

[Tadaima]

Just so you know, DS has been (and still is) higher priced than the GBA ever was, and on top of that, the DS is selling BETTER than the GBA.

Yeah, but there isn't a single person in Japan who doesn't already own a GBA.

...Or PS2, for that matter.

Spoiler

;D

 

[typhonsentra]

Just so you know, DS has been (and still is) higher priced than the GBA ever was, and on top of that, the DS is selling BETTER than the GBA.

I know that. I'm saying that the initial barrier was the Gameboy success though. I mean, DS was winning with just SM64 and Warioware at launch.

 

[cvxfreak]

http://www.famitsu.com/game/rank/top30/2006/07/27/120,1153991453,57679,0,0.html

 

[Oblivion]

Yeah, but there isn't a single person in Japan who doesn't already own a GBA.

...Or PS2, for that matter.

Spoiler

;D

I don't mean now. That would be blatantly obvoius. I meant within the same period that the GBA and PS2 were in.

 

[charlequin]

It's pretty clear that products sell very strictly by brand loyalty. Sony had no chance, there's nothing they could've done that would've garnered more success in Japan against Nintendo's dominance in the market. For Nintendo to loss, they would've had to of been the ones to drop the ball in a dramatic way and they didn't. They priced aggressively early on and rode their already high hardware sales all the way to the top in Japan.

This is, like, outstandingly untrue.

The DS had a moribund start in Japan. Is your argument really that only brand loyalty (not specific software drivers of sales) lead to the DS shattering innumerable sales records and becoming the single most desirable gadget in the entire archipelago?

Also, I find that incompatible with the now-downplayed pre-launch brand loyalty pro-PSP argument.

 

[dabra]

DSL 262,453
PSP 35,938
PS2 22,288
DS 6,344
GBASP 2,953
Xbox360 1,472
GBM 1,410
GC 1,076
GBA 20
Xbox 0

 

[Stormbringer]

Xbox 0

Uh...There is an error, right ?

 

[fly high ~ayunite~]

DSL 262,453
PSP 35,938
PS2 22,288
DS 6,344
GBASP 2,953
Xbox360 1,472
GBM 1,410
GC 1,076
GBA 20
Xbox 0

Ouch! Did they add that out of spite? :lol

 

[Stormbringer]

I just checked, there is no mistake...

 

[Netrunner2k2]

Xbox 0

:lol Is that real?

It's real! :lol :lol

 

[Pureauthor]

0?

Does anyone from Microsoft read this, or would it be too humiliating?

*snerk*

 

[Saoh]

Xbox 0

omg, SERIOUSLY??

O_O!!

 

[cvxfreak]

:lol :lol :lol :lol WTF

 

[Archie]

I'm going to be bold and predict Xbox sales will rise 200% next week.

 

[Firestorm]

Is this a plan by Microsoft to steal the DS Lite's thunder? I mean, it sold 120,000 more than last week but I can't stop thinking about the Xbox :lol

 

[Busaiku]

DSL 262,453
PSP 35,938
PS2 22,288
DS 6,344
GBASP 2,953
Xbox360 1,472
GBM 1,410
GC 1,076
GBA 20
Xbox 0

Incredible.

 

[cvxfreak]

I'm going to be bold and predict Xbox sales will rise 200% next week.

I see.

:lol

 

[Viewtiful Darkness]

Why do they even still keep track of original Xbox sales?

 

[argon]

Looks like Japan has finally moved on to fully embracing the 360.

 

[Archie]

Why do they even still keep track of original Xbox sales?

Comic relief.

 

[BuzzJive]

Well - next week we can find out once and for all if they track returns as the Xbox goes negative.

 

[polg]

Xbox 0

FINALLY!