fivepersondude
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Not just one night
Rages at people having sex.
Screams down a female coworker
Fantasizes about getting revenge on women.
If that is the same guy, the dude has major problems...
Not just one night
Rages at people having sex.
Screams down a female coworker
Fantasizes about getting revenge on women.
Sounds like he has trouble taking responsibility for his actions. This is not a good type of person to keep around, and even if he's the Mozart of his field, he could be replaced by a Beethoven of that same field who has a better attitude.Funny thing is he says I have management issues and suppress shit, but that is only after a lot of prodding and even I don't go as hard as he does.
He has pride issues for sure. He doesn't like being challenged.
Yes, this is very true. Exxon doesn't do layoffs.Exxon hasn't really gone through layoffs yet, and we were discussing the state of the oil industry in that conversation.
Unless Exxon recently announced layoffs. Maybe other companies haven't either, but here in Houston the big ones have largely mentioned layoffs.
In the morning, high tail it to her office and play up how he understanding estimated the alcohol. Play up some self deprecating humor and for good measure and go humble. Don't go too hard it comes off as kiss ass but definite be genuine and sincere.
Thoughts?
My advice to him was to go to his hotel, drink a shit load of water and take a shower. Go to sleep and deal with it in the morning.
In the morning, high tail it to her office and play up how he understanding estimated the alcohol. Play up some self deprecating humor and for good measure and go humble. Don't go too hard it comes off as kiss ass but definite be genuine and sincere.
Thoughts?
You go in, apologize, say you'll check yourself in for anger management and say "is there anything I can do to make this better? Anything at all I will publicly humiliate myself if necessary".
Read this post and understand it's not a 'quick' escalation.
That's when they fire you anyways after they've made you humiliate yourself.
Don't think her being a lady-boss is the point. Don't be a dick at dinner more like it.
He did this to a female? Yeah, she holds his job in the palm of her hand now. If I were him, I would consider begging.
Alcohol sometimes brings up the true person behind the facade. Lack of inhibitions and all that.
Does your friend at least realize he fucked up (as a contractor, no less)?
Look, let me spell it out for you.
A drunk grown man aggressively staring down a woman over a work disagreement is a total asshole and probably a piece of shit. Terrible character.
Yes, a drunk grown man aggressively staring down his boss is also a shitty idiotic thing to do that will also factor into his future employment.
If you think her being a women and him being a man won't factor into this as well, you're delusional.
He knows he is fucked. That is why I was asking here. He started texting me saying he was about to get "legit fired", and my guy reaction was that that was indeed the case. Wanted a second opinion before I started mentally embracing laying his portion of the rent until he gets a new job.
He isn't taking my calls, probably because he thinks I'm going to moralize him or something. Not really sure. But he did call his previous supervisor who is a close friend and mentor of his. Apparently he was hysterical. She gave him much the same advice, but she said he was refusing to apologize because he's kind of a bitch when it comes to making himself vulnerable.
She was basically crying when I was talking because she was worried about him, which sucks because she has bigger problems to worry about.
After this, at the bare minimum I'm going to push getting therapy again. Sucks that I'm going to basically be paying for his mom and him until he gets a new job, and I'm not exactly making big oil money. But I suppose it can't be helped.no I am not going to abandon my best friend when he's down, so don't tell me to move out now. He's helped me through shit, and I'm gonna help him through shit.
Apparently his project partner is pretty pissed off at him right now for embarrassing him. That partner is a former classmate that my friend brought into the company.
Sucks that I'm going to basically be paying for his mom and him until he gets a new job, and I'm not exactly making big oil money.
Why are you doing this? I mean if he makes $80k each year, why would you need to pay for him and his mom? I mean even if he is jobless, he should have enough money saved for such times.
He doesn't. He blows a lot of his money, pays for his mom and basically his little sister. 80k doesn't go too far in SoCal.
I would put pressure to find something asap. He doesn't really have a safety net besides me tbh. His mom is useless. Myself and my other roommate are his safety net.
My worry is that he thinks too highly of himself and won't settle for any job that doesn't pay as well or better than his current job.
In any case, I asked his mentor and my father what their thoughts are. His mentor said he may have a chance if he apologizes (she thinks his telling of the events is probably exaggerated). My dad is of the opinion he is fucked and that his partner will fuck him even harder by telling his wife, who will mention it to all of the people in their old cohort who will then spread it to their companies so me might be facing a potential 86ing in his industry.
He was asked about it at dinner. He gave a response, the person he got into it with didn't like his response and gave a counterargument, he got defensive and it escalated.Why would he talk about work during a dinner designed to socialize the employees? He messed up big.
He works on for a major company as a human factors engineer. that company is currently looking to increase human factors implementation in their company and he is at the forefront of that initiative.
However, he's still a contractor. He's been with the company for two years.
Today was a big day. He participated in a lot of heavy decisions. To celebrate him and a bunch of colleagues from around the country went out to dinner.
Long story short, he had too much to drink. During dinner, he got into an argument with a senior manager about implimention of policy. It escalated. Then he went full prideful big baby and said something like "if you don't like my opinions, go to my boss and tell her to fire me." and stared down the person he was talking to.
She told him to stop, he didn't. It got really awkward and everyone walked away.
So how bad of a situation is he in? How can he manage this. He's talking about how he's scared for his job and what not.
This is awful advice. Would you send flowers to a male boss?Flowers delivered in person with a public office apology, make it sincere. Good luck.
He was asked about it at dinner. He gave a response, the person he got into it with didn't like his response and gave a counterargument, he got defensive and it escalated.
Boss is already pissed at a man doing that to her, sending her flowers is only making it worst.Personally, I'd rather not work with someone like that. He sounds like he has a lot of other issues to work through as well.
This is awful advice. Would you send flowers to a male boss?
He knows he is fucked.
he was refusing to apologize because he's kind of a bitch when it comes to making himself vulnerable.
Flowers delivered in person with a public office apology, make it sincere. Good luck.
My Dad once received a very large promotion from a prominent fortune 50 that would have had him overseeing many of their European operations.
He got drunk on a business trip in Germany and ended up climbing the rafters of the old pub they were in; the German business men left, and sent an e-mail to my Dad's boss.
He had his promotion withdrawn and was demoted; he got depressed and retired a year later and was bankrupt within 18 months of that. He likely would have been a mega-millionaire and potentially "business famous" if he hadn't done that.
lol, them's the breaks.
My Dad once received a very large promotion from a prominent fortune 50 that would have had him overseeing many of their European operations.
He got drunk on a business trip in Germany and ended up climbing the rafters of the old pub they were in; the German business men left, and sent an e-mail to my Dad's boss.
He had his promotion withdrawn and was demoted; he got depressed and retired a year later and was bankrupt within 18 months of that. He likely would have been a mega-millionaire and potentially "business famous" if he hadn't done that.
lol, them's the breaks.