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Official February 2008 NPD Results - "Last Gen" > "Next Gen" - Industry Gone Wild.
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SIP YEK NOD
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Yeah, thats pretty fucked up.kassatsu said:
Kobun Heat
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When would it be okay? Name a month.J-Rzez said:
underfooter
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zoku88 said:
I guess look at all Blu-Ray sales. The system is the front-runner of a new format and the cell processer.
Flakster99
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sonycowbow, or those in power, any chance of growing the software list to say a top 30 or top 20, or top 5 per platform? With 6 viable, healthy platforms, a top 10 overall software list is but a minuscule tip of the iceberg as far as software sales are concerned.
Nice hardware numbers all around. About the software, holy shit @ CoD4, LO and GH III Wii edition.
Nice hardware numbers all around. About the software, holy shit @ CoD4, LO and GH III Wii edition.
Scottlarock
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oh good job bish, Turok lives on.
GallonOMilk
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Psychotext said:
Well, considering that you can either buy the white slim ps2 or guitar hero 3 for the 360 or PS3 for the same price, I'm thinking I'll get myself one too, and I think that's what's going through lots of people's minds. I mean, there are hundreds of awesome games for cheap, and it's only $100.
Great numbers for the PS3; it more than doubled its total from February of last year. Wii and DS continue to outsell the competition by leaps and bounds, but its the PS3's increase that's most impressive to me.
For those who have looked historically at price cuts, it is NOT common for price cuts to produce a permanent and sustainable increase in sales through these means. Sales spike momentarily, then drop back down. That's what happened to the 360 in America, and the PS3 in Japan, and the GC/Xbox everywhere, whenever there was a price cut.
The consistant sales of the PS3 are surprising and impressive. I'm waiting a month or two more to say with complete confidence that yes, the PS3 has managed to create a higher sales level in America after the price cut.
For those who have looked historically at price cuts, it is NOT common for price cuts to produce a permanent and sustainable increase in sales through these means. Sales spike momentarily, then drop back down. That's what happened to the 360 in America, and the PS3 in Japan, and the GC/Xbox everywhere, whenever there was a price cut.
The consistant sales of the PS3 are surprising and impressive. I'm waiting a month or two more to say with complete confidence that yes, the PS3 has managed to create a higher sales level in America after the price cut.
Bluemercury
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Been playing COD4 online, too bad pple are buying the console versions. Pc its where this game its at......and online free...
bafflewaffle
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Captain Smoker said:
"generation's ecosystem" is even more obnoxious than "playstation family"
Opiate said:
Sort of a string of temporary boosts, much like it had in Japan (which had people calling 30k the new weekly floor for awhile). Here, it's price drop --> xmas --> blu ray victoly --> 80 gig "going away --> ?? --> MGS4
I personally think 360 is going to own GTAIV pretty hard with a price drop and/or bundle, but we'll see.
TemplaerDude
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smokeychan said:YES!!!!
PLAYSTATION BEAT XBOX AGAIN!!!
EAT THAT SHIT, MICROSOFT! EAT THAT SHIT.
How does that shit taste, Microsoft? How does it taste? Get used to the taste, Microsoft. Get used to the taste.
THIS BACK TO BACK VICTORY WAS A LONG TIME COMING, AND YOU'LL BE EATING SHIT FOR A LONG TIME TO COME, SHIT EATERS.
I'M SO JAMMING TO JORDIN SPARKS - ONE STEP AT A TIME RIGHT NOW.
Fuck, all Sony needs now is that big release in June. You know what I'm talking about, that legendary bundle of the forever.
I know, right? Capcom.
gamespot is that way >
Paracelsus
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neptunes said:
That besides DMC4 there was NOT another game really worth being purchased?
My guess is that they're thinking that way.
_Alkaline_
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Some observations:
PS2 is an absolute BEAST that refuses to die.
DS did exceptionally well.
Wii did a lot better than i predicted, given the apparent shortages, and will completely dominate next month.
PSP and PS3 both did quite solid.
360 disapppointing, but i expect it to rise around April.
Overall, incredible hardware sales this month. I am blown away.
On the software side,
COD4 is a monster that refuses to relinquish it's number 1 spot. But it will have to next month became of a little game called Brawl.
Good numbers for LO.
DMC4 360 a bit disappointing, but great numbers for PS3 DMC4 given the install base.
Guitar Hero 3 Wii continues to sell well. EA would REALLY be regretting the absence of Rock Band on the system.
Dragon Quest Swords sales are very LOL but really, was there any hype for it? Not really. It's a mediocre game that's full priced and should have come out ages ago. Mind you, I'm sure S-E still profited from the game, since it sold around 500K in Japan.
No More Heroes hitting 100K in the US is definitely worth celebrating. Hopefully it reaches 150-200K in it's lifetime, and performs similarly well in Europe.
Any numbers for Galaxy? I'm sad to see that one drop.
PS2 is an absolute BEAST that refuses to die.
DS did exceptionally well.
Wii did a lot better than i predicted, given the apparent shortages, and will completely dominate next month.
PSP and PS3 both did quite solid.
360 disapppointing, but i expect it to rise around April.
Overall, incredible hardware sales this month. I am blown away.
On the software side,
COD4 is a monster that refuses to relinquish it's number 1 spot. But it will have to next month became of a little game called Brawl.
Good numbers for LO.
DMC4 360 a bit disappointing, but great numbers for PS3 DMC4 given the install base.
Guitar Hero 3 Wii continues to sell well. EA would REALLY be regretting the absence of Rock Band on the system.
Dragon Quest Swords sales are very LOL but really, was there any hype for it? Not really. It's a mediocre game that's full priced and should have come out ages ago. Mind you, I'm sure S-E still profited from the game, since it sold around 500K in Japan.
No More Heroes hitting 100K in the US is definitely worth celebrating. Hopefully it reaches 150-200K in it's lifetime, and performs similarly well in Europe.
Any numbers for Galaxy? I'm sad to see that one drop.
Okay observation the first-
microsoft - So only a couple days ago they mentioned passingly they were still supply constrained , likely because they got wind of the numbers before hand. Pre-emptive damage control. Here's the thing though , they still broke 250K for the month which is very good and above average for a non holiday month for the xbox yet the ps3 sold 25000 more units despite costing a minimum of 100 dollars more then the average 360 console. Don't get me wrong, I love my tree-sidee but am I to believe that if the supply where on store shelves they'd have sold 350 or 400,000 consoles ? I suppose we'll never know until the march or april NPD's come around.
Secondly, Lost Oddysee - It broke 200K , that's fantastic seeing as blue dragon had somewhat dismal sales but let's investigate a little more shall we? Actually it doesn't take much investigation, blue dragons promotion offered a terribly put togethor playable demo and a couple of xbox live videos as well as a meager print campaign. Lost oddysee must have had a 5-10 million dollar marketing budget with lavishly produced television ads aired during shows that nerds watch as well as a few print ads but ... no demo.
I think we can learn from this case that you need TV ads to break 200K sales so long as the game is atleast semi decent. Even dragonquest 8 had a TV add and lo and behold also sold over 200K.
Nintendo holy shitballs on a crotch , they really are trouncing the competition. 1.1 million consoles sold if you add DS to Wii and I imagine there's a healthy slice of profit to be had there to boot. I think it's safe to say the bubble ain't bursting anytime soon. Perhaps in 2009.
Sony seems to have hit a pricepoint it's fanbase is willing to jump on since releasing the 400 dollar model, winning the format war also likely helped it's cause a bit. I wouldn't be suprised, if like january , many new ps3 owners grabbed it to have a bluray player. Either way more sales for sony means they are back in the game , more systems = more games sold = more games made. Here's hoping they can pull it togethor this year consistently.
microsoft - So only a couple days ago they mentioned passingly they were still supply constrained , likely because they got wind of the numbers before hand. Pre-emptive damage control. Here's the thing though , they still broke 250K for the month which is very good and above average for a non holiday month for the xbox yet the ps3 sold 25000 more units despite costing a minimum of 100 dollars more then the average 360 console. Don't get me wrong, I love my tree-sidee but am I to believe that if the supply where on store shelves they'd have sold 350 or 400,000 consoles ? I suppose we'll never know until the march or april NPD's come around.
Secondly, Lost Oddysee - It broke 200K , that's fantastic seeing as blue dragon had somewhat dismal sales but let's investigate a little more shall we? Actually it doesn't take much investigation, blue dragons promotion offered a terribly put togethor playable demo and a couple of xbox live videos as well as a meager print campaign. Lost oddysee must have had a 5-10 million dollar marketing budget with lavishly produced television ads aired during shows that nerds watch as well as a few print ads but ... no demo.
I think we can learn from this case that you need TV ads to break 200K sales so long as the game is atleast semi decent. Even dragonquest 8 had a TV add and lo and behold also sold over 200K.
Nintendo holy shitballs on a crotch , they really are trouncing the competition. 1.1 million consoles sold if you add DS to Wii and I imagine there's a healthy slice of profit to be had there to boot. I think it's safe to say the bubble ain't bursting anytime soon. Perhaps in 2009.
Sony seems to have hit a pricepoint it's fanbase is willing to jump on since releasing the 400 dollar model, winning the format war also likely helped it's cause a bit. I wouldn't be suprised, if like january , many new ps3 owners grabbed it to have a bluray player. Either way more sales for sony means they are back in the game , more systems = more games sold = more games made. Here's hoping they can pull it togethor this year consistently.
gkrykewy said:
Absolutely, that's possible -- that's why I'm waiting another month or two to say anything with certainty.
And while I do agree that there have been a series of small boosts... at some point, that series of small boosts becomes a consistent trend. How long does it take for "small boosts" to be consider one larger, longer one? Because it will have been nearly 9 months straight of sustained "small boosts" by the time MGS4 comes out.
I think it's possible we may see a notable drop next month, and/or a resounding defeat in the gain-GTA-marketshare fiesta that will be April. I'll wait and see.
Warm Machine
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Well Nintendo in all honesty was significantly supply constrained last month. They near doubled Jan on Wii and more than doubled DS. I believe MS when they say there were constrained in Jan and most of Feb.
I think though that the PS3 hit a price point that isn't terrifying for people. March will have 360 on top by about 30k but I don't expect to see 2:1 ratios like in 2007 unless MS pulls a price cut and even then it won't happen. I'd wager that the Blu-Ray win for PS3 and any boost it got from that, if any, is probably over by now.
I think though that the PS3 hit a price point that isn't terrifying for people. March will have 360 on top by about 30k but I don't expect to see 2:1 ratios like in 2007 unless MS pulls a price cut and even then it won't happen. I'd wager that the Blu-Ray win for PS3 and any boost it got from that, if any, is probably over by now.
TheIroning
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scitek said:
It isn't really that complicated.
What the fuck kind of logic is it to believe that the PS3 is in direct competition with the PS2 and DS?
This really is an improvement for the PS3 and shows that eventually the PS3 will start outselling the Wii on total numbers once the pre-Brawl and post-Brawl craze dies down.
Playstation family sold 850000ish consoles and handhelds. I would consider that quite a success for Sony.
Playstation family sold 850000ish consoles and handhelds. I would consider that quite a success for Sony.
slaughterking
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Right, so Nintendo has to a) raise the price for the Wii or b) magically produce more consoles.diddlyD said:
Everything not in the OP so far from various sources...
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February 2008:
WII NO MORE HEROES - ~35K
WII DRAGON QUEST SWORDS - ~15K
NDS PROFESSOR LAYTON MYST VILLAGE - ~90K
NDS ADVANCE WARS DAYS OF RUIN - ~50K
360 FRONTLINES FUEL OF WAR - ~100K
PSP WIPEOUT PULSE - ~10K
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Rough LTDs:
WII WII PLAY W/ REMOTE - ~4.7 million
WII GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK - ~1.72 million
WII NO MORE HEROES - ~100K
NDS MARIO AND SONIC: OLYMPIC GAMES - ~340K
NDS ADVANCE WARS DAYS OF RUIN - ~130K
360 CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE - ~3.60 million
360 ROCK BAND - ~1.12 million
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Hardware LTD:
PS2: ~41.7 million
GBA: ~36.0 million
NDS: ~18.4 million
XBX: ~14.5 million
GCN: ~11.8 million
PSP: ~11.0 million
360: ~9.6 million
Wii: ~8.1 million
PS3: ~3.8 million
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WII PLAY W/REMOTE - 1 year+ and going strong:
February - 371K
March - 273K
April - 249K
May - 227K
June - 293K
July - 278K
August - 257K
September - 282K
October - 240K
November - 564K
December - 1.1 million
January - 298K
February - 290K
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February 2008:
WII NO MORE HEROES - ~35K
WII DRAGON QUEST SWORDS - ~15K
NDS PROFESSOR LAYTON MYST VILLAGE - ~90K
NDS ADVANCE WARS DAYS OF RUIN - ~50K
360 FRONTLINES FUEL OF WAR - ~100K
PSP WIPEOUT PULSE - ~10K
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Rough LTDs:
WII WII PLAY W/ REMOTE - ~4.7 million
WII GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK - ~1.72 million
WII NO MORE HEROES - ~100K
NDS MARIO AND SONIC: OLYMPIC GAMES - ~340K
NDS ADVANCE WARS DAYS OF RUIN - ~130K
360 CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE - ~3.60 million
360 ROCK BAND - ~1.12 million
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Hardware LTD:
PS2: ~41.7 million
GBA: ~36.0 million
NDS: ~18.4 million
XBX: ~14.5 million
GCN: ~11.8 million
PSP: ~11.0 million
360: ~9.6 million
Wii: ~8.1 million
PS3: ~3.8 million
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WII PLAY W/REMOTE - 1 year+ and going strong:
February - 371K
March - 273K
April - 249K
May - 227K
June - 293K
July - 278K
August - 257K
September - 282K
October - 240K
November - 564K
December - 1.1 million
January - 298K
February - 290K