Agent White
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1. you need to have a ps3
2. so basically pc gamers are planning to screw valve
2. so basically pc gamers are planning to screw valve
sure, but 35 bucks +- won't make any difference. (to me, I understand things can be tougher when you're younger etc)Facism said:A man beating his wife is abuse. Reselling a game is a consumer right. Some of you don't have bills to pay or something?
The guy buying your used game instead of a new game is a loss for Valve (or at the least, a missed opportunity for a sale)Kuraudo said:Can someone explain to me how buying a copy of Valve's game is "fucking them over"?
I don't plan to do it (no real interest on playing this on my laptop), but I'm genuinely interested in the logic behind this.
As the OP mentions, you have to link a PSN account with a Steam account before you can play co-op. You can probably get his PC version so long as you provide your Steam credentials when he signs up. But I seriously doubt that you'll both be able to play the game at the same time.JackEtc said:So if my friend was to buy Portal 2 for PS3, he could just give me the code, or would my Steam account have to be linked to his PSN?
Jive Turkey said:Wow I was positive Valve would protect themselves from this kind of abuse.
epmode said:As the OP mentions, you have to link a PSN account with a Steam account before you can play co-op. You can probably get his PC version so long as you provide your Steam credentials when he signs up. But I seriously doubt that you'll both be able to play the game at the same time.
I'm a big consumer rights proponent but reselling a game and keeping it at the same time is more piracy than anything else.Facism said:A man beating his wife is abuse. Reselling a game is a consumer right. Some of you don't have bills to pay or something?
Foliorum Viridum said:Of course it's fucking pro-consumer. If Microsoft opened up their system I'm positive that this would be a feature on both versions of the game.
Foliorum Viridum said:After everything Valve has done with this game, Steam, etc etc, do you really think they're not a pro-consumer company? Really?
Facism said:A man beating his wife is abuse. Reselling a game is a consumer right. Some of you don't have bills to pay or something?
[edit] i should say that i'll be keeping my copy to coop with my brother. I'll use the pc and he'll use the ps3.
MrPliskin said:What I don't understand is how people plan to "save money" on this.
$60 (Portal PS3)
-$20 (Likely GS Trade in Value for Cash)
$40 Net Cost
...can't you just buy the PC version almost that cheap w/preorder?
how are valve getting abused here? people are still going to be playing their game, and it isn't their money that's buying back the used copies.Jive Turkey said:Wow I was positive Valve would protect themselves from this kind of abuse.
And that's the real shame here. A genuine "this is why we can't have nice things" moment.
Agent White said:1. you need to have a ps3
2. so basically pc gamers are planning to screw valve
Akkad said:If money is that tight then use it to pay bills, not buy video games.
What?Ysiadmihi said:The only reason why this has happened in the first place is because the 360 is so closed.
How is any of this pro-consumer outside of the fact that PC gamers can get a free/very cheap version of the game, which you're saying nobody should take advantage of?
If Valve wants to be pro-consumer in my eyes they can stop making games like Portal and L4D and get back to work on PC-focused games.
BobTheFork said:I know this has been covered but I forgot. Can you play cross platform pc/ps3?
Angst said:What?
What kind of games would you like them to make?
Akkad said:If money is that tight then use it to pay bills, not buy video games.
toasty_T said:This is just an elaborate trap to get people using Steam. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a mini-sale next week.
Valve wants to get people hooked on that crack.
good thanks,Shurs said:Yes.
plagiarize said:i hoped they would, but didn't expect it.
this is EXACTLY how i hoped it would be... so i'm pleased as punch. i will be playing Portal 2 co-op on two screens with my one purchase.
thank you valve. you guys can be incredibly generous sometimes and i will continue to reward you for it.
Angst said:The guy buying your used game instead of a new game is a loss for Valve (or at the least, a missed opportunity for a sale)
Ehhhh. If you think that will be PC exclusive you need to wake up.YuriLowell said:Episode 3.
If Valve had a way to get this on 360 as well as PS3 do you seriously believe they wouldn't've done it? This isn't some anti-Microsoft move, it's just an attempt to further the Steam platform and open up consoles in the process. Sony were smart enough to go for it, Microsoft weren't.Ysiadmihi said:The only reason why this has happened in the first place is because the 360 is so closed.
How is any of this pro-consumer outside of the fact that PC gamers can get a free/very cheap version of the game, which you're saying nobody should take advantage of?
If Valve wants to be pro-consumer in my eyes they can stop making games like Portal and L4D and get back to work on PC-focused games.
Ha. Yeah cos that won't make it to consoles ala The Orange Box at all. Wake up, dude. HL2 + Eps were all on consoles and Ep 2 was definitely designed with consoles in mind. Guess what? It was still their best game to date.YuriLowell said:Episode 3.
Added oneAngst said:Ehhhh. If you think that will be PC exclusive you need to wake up.
I want Episode 3 as much as the next guy, but to call the Half Life series PC-centric games isn't true at all.
Half-Life 1 - PC, PS2, Dreamcast, Xbox (?)
Half-Life 2 - PC, PS3, , Xbox, 360
JackEtc said:So if my friend was to buy Portal 2 for PS3, he could just give me the code, or would my Steam account have to be linked to his PSN?
Angst said:Ehhhh. If you think that will be PC exclusive you need to wake up.
I want Episode 3 as much as the next guy, but to call the Half Life series PC-centric games isn't true at all.
Half-Life 1 - PC, PS2, Dreamcast, Xbox (?)
Half-Life 2 - PC, PS3, 360
more like planning to screw gamestop.Agent White said:1. you need to have a ps3
2. so basically pc gamers are planning to screw valve
Angst said:Ehhhh. If you think that will be PC exclusive you need to wake up.
I want Episode 3 as much as the next guy, but to call the Half Life series PC-centric games isn't true at all.
Half-Life 1 - PC, PS2, Dreamcast, Xbox (?)
Half-Life 2 - PC, PS3, 360
JaseC said:GZ: Does that leave the system open to abuse? Let's say I want to pick up the PC version. Are there any measures stopping me from buying the PS3 version, linking the code to my Steam account, immediately selling back the PS3 game to a store and effectively getting a PC copy for next to nothing?
JB: No, I don't think there's anything that would prevent that. We're willing to take the risk that someone might jump through all those hoops to create what we think is a really compelling feature that people are going to like.
Episode 2 debuted on The Orange Box, so development of that was a 360/PC thing from the start, pretty much.Angst said:Ehhhh. If you think that will be PC exclusive you need to wake up.
I want Episode 3 as much as the next guy, but to call the Half Life series PC-centric games isn't true at all.
Half-Life 1 - PC, PS2, Dreamcast, Xbox (?)
Half-Life 2 - PC, PS3, 360
That's true, I forgot about the Xbox version of HL2.Gattsu25 said:
Sort of. And I agree the console ports were pretty bad, but I expect Episode 3 to be handled internally and released on consoles and PC at the same time.YuriLowell said:you forget the shitty Half Life 2 xbox port.
They are on console, but they are PC games first and foremost.
Good idea. I'm sure the day it comes out someone will already have a tutorial out on how to do this. I'd like to support Valve, but I have no source of income right now. Gotta get my Portal fix :/OmegaDragon said:This could be possible:
Your friend buys the PS3 version, but doesnt redeem the code. You create a new PSN account and link it to your Steam account. You redeem the code and obtain the PC version.
If they can get the sale on that platform then I think it's a win. They could be tight about it and tie each code to the disc, which I would not be too upset about with a game like Portal. They are giving you 3 copies for the price of 1 here. I want to see this happen more on PS3.badcrumble said:Good for them for having faith in the consumer, but I have a bad feeling Valve's gonna get fucked by a bunch of cheapskates on this one.
You're assuming most of them actually have PSN friends or just don't have a good PC. I'm pretty sure the majority of in-store pick ups are from more casual fans not caring about all this.KingDizzi said:Oh my the number of used PS3 copies there will be of this game within a week shall be amazing.
gofreak said:Thinking about it may depend on whether you can then decouple your PS3 from your Steam account though, so it lets you set up a different account or not use a full one. Perhaps deleting the game data will do that, but they may have a more sophisticated system for tying the steam account to that PS3 thereafter so you can't use the PS3 you redeemed on simultaneous with your PC.
KingDizzi said:Oh my the number of used PS3 copies there will be of this game within a week shall be amazing.
I'm not 100% sure of the source, but I think the answer was yes somewhere in the other thread.duckroll said:Is the PS3 version going to support cloud saves? Could I technically play the game on both PC and PS3 if I get the PS3 version, whenever I feel like, without losing any progress?
That would be mind-bendingly awesome.duckroll said:Is the PS3 version going to support cloud saves? Could I technically play the game on both PC and PS3 if I get the PS3 version, whenever I feel like, without losing any progress?
DrForester said:I'm not 100% sure, but I think the answer was yes somewhere in the other thread.
Oh, they mind it. They just have to trust it won't happen too much. I doubt it will, to be honest. I could easily do it, but I'm paying for the game instead...later on.ashbash159 said:It's interesting that they don't mind people selling the game after it has been redeemed on Steam.
At least Valve are nice. If I were to buy the PS3 copy I wouldn't like to disrespect Valve by selling the PS3 version.
Ysiadmihi said:I have no interest in Portal 2 so I won't be "abusing" this, but Valve is just openly inviting it. There's nothing wrong with the consumer doing what's best for themselves.
Yes, Yes and Yes!duckroll said:Is the PS3 version going to support cloud saves? Could I technically play the game on both PC and PS3 if I get the PS3 version, whenever I feel like, without losing any progress?
Yes. That's part of the Steamworks package.duckroll said:Is the PS3 version going to support cloud saves? Could I technically play the game on both PC and PS3 if I get the PS3 version, whenever I feel like, without losing any progress?