Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Should have stayed Roguelite. Diablo Skinner Box game design is abhorrent.
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Reviews - Everspace 2. "It's Diablo in space".
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Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
I played the demo with KB&M....how is controller support. Would much rather rock that if possible (Ie....if it is any good).
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Do you use pitch and yaw for main axis, I prefer pitch and roll with yaw as a rudder type movement on the twist or other input and it doesn't feel right here but maybe these ships' agility isn't meant for that and I need to switch to pitch and yaw and relegate roll elsewhere.
With the mouse & keyboard it just becomes a crosshair chaser while spamming consumables much like Freelancer which I always disliked for its core gameplay and never understood why it got so popular, as intuitive as it all was it just never felt fun like a real space game.
They should add VR support since Everspace had it, they could even do stuff like head (or eye) tracked weapons independent of the flight controls with it so basically even more effortless than the mouse and keyboard (still not as fun as fixed weapons in oldies but oh well).
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Topher
Gold Member
I'm going to try it with controller later today. I'll report back if no one else does.
I did the exact same thing. Started with pitch and roll on main, but had to switch to pitch and yaw. I've mapped roll to a hat on the throttle. I'm starting to think about another stick setup because I find myself missing that Z axis more and more.
The biggest problem I'm having is that during heavy combat, the game will suddenly kick me to the inventory screen. After I get back to the battle, I have no control over firing. The game starts firing randomly. Annoying as hell.
Controller overall is fine but there's a few bugs. There's a few bugs across this thing that kind of ruins the whole experience for me.
Having a great time overall - I love that they just tried to make an action game, including with environmental puzzles and other trappings you wouldn't expect - but this needed a final round of polish that I thought was what 0.8 to release was for. HDR STILL being broken is absurd.
. . . still, excellent game that I'm glad I didn't burn out on in EA.
Topher
Gold Member
I think controller is probably ok, but I'm having a hard time adjusting from HOTAS. HOTAS just gives much more intuitive movements across all the axis to me personally. I'm adjusting controller aiming sensitivity to next to nothing and still find myself unable to aim very well.
Alexios
you were saying you were having that issue. What are you using? Winwing?
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Lol, I wish.I think controller is probably ok, but I'm having a hard time adjusting from HOTAS. HOTAS just gives much more intuitive movements across all the axis to me personally. I'm adjusting controller aiming sensitivity to next to nothing and still find myself unable to aim very well.
I have a Trustmaster T16000M stick, the green old one before the orange FCS revision (it's the same product id and everything). I just chose that as low cost but precise flight stick cos it has the magnetic hall effect sensors same as their higher end products. I want to get the TWCS throttle but $.
So obviously keyboard commands are a must, not nearly enough inputs, though in Elite Dangerous I can get a much nicer set up and I love how that handles but don't love the rest of the game, lol.
Default is V.
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amigastar
Member
Yes, it is V thx.
Whats the Level Cap for 1.0 version?
Edit: Level cap is 25 on final version.
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yet_another_alt
Member
The default gamepad controls are kinda ass. This would greatly benefit from the Deck's four extra back buttons so you don't have to use L3 to boost and R3 to roll. Seriously, whoever thought holding down R3 and using the stick at the same time is crazy.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
I mean coming from someone who loves Freelancer, that sure sounds like freelancer...
Get a left handed flight stick and go HOSAS. It gives you game pad type control and works great for space sims. A lefty VKB Gladiator would be a good companion for the warthog.
Some people have two sticks and a throttle for main drives, and the sticks for dog fighting.
Topher
Gold Member
I actually tried that last year with a Thrustmaster T1600 but decided I like HOTAS instead.
I reinstalled Everspace 2 and it looks like my issues went away.....knock on wood. Been playing for a few hours and none of that stuff is happening so could just be a corrupted file during install or something.
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Strider Highwind
Banned
I never played the first but i'm absolutely loving this, should i go back and try the other one?
Gave me a reason to break out my flight stick, I suck with it but i'm having a great time lol
Duchess
Member
I always meant to play ED but never got around to it. Sounds like ES2 will be just my cup of tea!*
(* - Yorkshire >>>> PG Tips)
Topher
Gold Member
Maybe if you like rogue-likes. Personally not a fan.
manfestival
Member
Bumping because this game deserves it
ClanOfNone
Member
The wait for the ps5 version is killin me.
Hot5pur
Member
Tried it a bit on gamepass, was quite fun, thinking of buying the game on steam, does it stay interesting through to the end with new stuff or is it mostly that just the numbers start going up at some point and you've seen everything there is to see half way through?
Just trying to justify the $50.
Just trying to justify the $50.
Topher
Gold Member
I've got about 60 hours in. There is a bit of a learning curve to understand how all the different systems work. Once you get how crafting items and components work then it opens up quite a bit and gives you a lot more avenues of gameplay and motivates you to engage more in resource gathering and such. So I'm enjoying it, but I'm also a guy who loves sinking in a ton of hours building up my ship stats. The story is good though and that helps a lot.
The big negative, to me, is that it seems like that it is extremely rare that loot drops that is better than what I have already. It isn't like Diablo where you can expect to change out equipment on a fairly regular basis. At this point, I'm looking more at upgrading than loot drops. It is kind of disappointing, at times, that after going through a ton of enemies that I have a bunch of shit that I know I'm probably just going to dismantle for parts or sell.
There are a decent number of mission types, but at this point I've done them all a good number of times and they are becoming repetitive, but I think that is probably to be expected after 60 hours. I'd pay $50 again, but I'm a sucker for these type of games.
MarkMe2525
Member
What a cool way to change it up for a sequel. I'm looking forward to it.
I've finished the story, not alot really changes enemy wise. You will have seen most enemies before leaving the first galaxy. I havn't been enjoying this as much as the first one honestly, it sounds great on paper but in reality alot of the stuff you end up doing is puzzles and find looking for hidden things in the side quests and other area specific challenges. You will probably have worked out what 2 or 3 weapons work best for you in the first galaxy and use them for the remainder of the game and you might buy a different ship. I bought my second one about 30% through the story and my 3rd post story for the end game which you can read about below.
Don't grind for loot early, do the side quests as you get gold (legendary I think they are called) from rewards from some of those but the real kicker is you can only have 1 equipped at a time...... so stupid. You can buy expensive legendary ships later after buying all the perks from one of the npcs that let you equip a 2nd gold tier item.
That leads us to end game loot grind, after the story you have the ability to do these missions much like those consumable items that generate a mission with enemy buffs and increased loot quality chance. Except you don't need those items and you can also dial the difficulty up to insane levels where you end up having to abuse the take no damage for 4 hits after device use skill to survive because you get fraked up in seconds otherwise.
So in the end I was kind of disappointed and enjoyed the roguelite first one more even though I generally like games in this kinda genre more.
Hot5pur
Member
I decided to start with the first game, and I have to say it has really exceeded my expectations.
It is a roguelite and it does get grindy, but the gameplay is so good. I think they basically kept it the same for the sequel.
I also really like the characters and whatever story there is.
A really nice AA game, and it's on sale for like $4. I recommend getting it with the DLC as part of the ultimate edition for like $8 (on instant-gaming).
Somehow managed to put in like 16 hours since last Thursday, got to sector 6 so far...
Will definitely grab the sequel, but after Diablo 4.
It is a roguelite and it does get grindy, but the gameplay is so good. I think they basically kept it the same for the sequel.
I also really like the characters and whatever story there is.
A really nice AA game, and it's on sale for like $4. I recommend getting it with the DLC as part of the ultimate edition for like $8 (on instant-gaming).
Somehow managed to put in like 16 hours since last Thursday, got to sector 6 so far...
Will definitely grab the sequel, but after Diablo 4.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I'd like to have a mod(e) to start without the main story tbh, it's kinda meh to me, mostly its cheap presentation with some 2D artwork at best and just portraits chatting at most.
Some kind of fast start at some other system where you can take on random jobs or explore and loot before being able to reach further and further into higher level territories...
Like Freelancer's multiplayer.
Some kind of fast start at some other system where you can take on random jobs or explore and loot before being able to reach further and further into higher level territories...
Like Freelancer's multiplayer.
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Topher
Gold Member
Great addition for Game Pass. I played the hell out of that game.
amigastar
Member
I've had this problem too with MS Game Store, usually installing on C:\ works.
ClanOfNone
Member
It's great! I love the story being presented in dialogue boxes and in mission chatter, no long boring ass cutscenes constantly undercutting stuff.
Gameplay is airtight and silky smooth like the first one. As a fan of roguelikes, I was bummed they were ditching that aspect of it, but the loot system and leveling that replace it make for excellent hooks.
I expected that I would highly enjoy this and I wasn't mistaken.
Gameplay is airtight and silky smooth like the first one. As a fan of roguelikes, I was bummed they were ditching that aspect of it, but the loot system and leveling that replace it make for excellent hooks.
I expected that I would highly enjoy this and I wasn't mistaken.
Isa
Member
Man what I wouldn't give for that! Hell, I'd take just a collection of their past greats, the Wing Commander collection, Strike Commander, Privateer 1&2. If only...
Still gonna get down on Everspace 2 and hope I like it. I just miss that classic feel those games had.
StereoVsn
Member
People, do NOT do this in any circumstance if you can help it. Anything goes wrong with winstore disk reservation or app db, and it's going to be Windows reinstall potentially.
Don't f around with your boot drive.
amigastar
Member
Hmm, never had anything wrong with my harddrive, stop spreading panic, man.
StereoVsn
Member
You have never had an issue personally. Look up problems with Win Store based large games (Game pass uses this).
This is a really bad idea.
amigastar
Member
So you are telling me Microsoft ignores this Game Pass installation issue? Why. Why didn't they fix it, by now?
Can't blame me that i thought a standard feature like installing on you C:\ hard drive was fine.
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StereoVsn
Member
I have no idea why they haven't fixed it. Because the shit is baked into Windows? Because they don't care? Because they don't have competent engineers working it?
The problem has been around since Windows Vista days.
Mossybrew
Member
Ok only 2 hours in but man this game is slick. If you are into flight/space shooters this is a nobrainer, especially if you like leveling up/gear drops/crafting/customizing & tinkering, all in support of very smooth gameplay, and the game looks sharp. I like the tactile element of being able to grab & carry stuff with your ship. I like how I can come upon a random derelict escape pod, scan it, and it opens up a side mission. My only complaint so far was your ship slowly corrected rolls to settle on a more 2d plane, but then I found you could turn this off with Auto Rolling in the settings.
Early hours but this game is hitting all the right buttons for me.
Early hours but this game is hitting all the right buttons for me.
Pimpbaa
Member
If you are on Xbox, than changing you region to UK allows you to download it (doing that now).
edit: Doing this also updated my Series X with the new UI, weird.
edit2: game has no fucking HDR, Jesus so sick of this with the unreal engine.
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Bumblebeetuna
Member
Downloaded and played some of the tutorial on Series X.
I think I need to research some control options, if there are any. Controls seem like absolute doodoo.
I think I need to research some control options, if there are any. Controls seem like absolute doodoo.