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Tekken 7 location test announced for October, runs at 50% visual quality, ~20 chars
- Thread starter Flying Wonkey
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Tekken makes boatloads of money by sheer fact that they get arcade operators to buy brand new expensive arcade machines everytime a sequel comes out. IIRC they even had a system for Tag 2 where arcade operators have to pay a subscription fee to keep their machines running.
And as to your last sentence, Tekken has always been the more difficult fighting game compared to its peers. Some argue that it's the most difficult modern franchise. However the only time it has ever underperformed in console sales is Tag 2 which one of the reasons why is that the game got so complicated that not even the hardcore can keep up.
A return to 1v1 fighting and that next-gen smell will be reasons as to why it will return back to being a success. If it doesn't, well it is the "final" battle after all and we can wait 5-6 years for a reboot
Callibretto
Member
I found tekken to still be easy and fun to play even without messing with the advanced mechanic. I've played tekken 6 without learning bound, and tt2 without learning the tag combos and other mechanic and I still can play pretty good against friend who do learn those mechanic. Sure I lose more than I win, but I'm not destroyed or anything. Although I didnt mess with online
joey_bone_bomb
Member
Believe me, when TK7 is released for PS4 and XB1 it will be anything but niche. It will be one of the first (if not THE first) fighting games built from the ground up for the new gen. It's also a numbered main-line release. There's absolutely no chance for it to be niche or hardcore-only.
Right now TK7 is in the same stage that almost every single iteration before it went through:
Announcement - Reveal - Early location test (that's where we are right now) - months of news in Japanese publications such as Arcadia magazine - more location tests - Arcade release - hundreds of hours of video content uploaded to YT by Japanese pro players - Console talk. ---and that's when Namco will start advertising this to the console crowd and casual players in the West.
Already in a playable state? I'm guessing they've been working on it longer than previously thought. I've been dying to see footage of a new (hopefully) current-gen only fighting game. Then again, if it's been worked on for a good amount of time, I guess it is possible that they started development last-gen consoles in mind. God I hope not.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Wow, that is much sooner than I expected. Can't wait to hear the info. Hope to see my old favs Asuka and Xiayou.
BumblebeeCody
Member
I ARE HYPED!
The Cartographer
Member
I can't wait to see Kazumi in action.
Tekken team isn't directly working on Smash, just a few of the staff moved to that department. Not sure about Rise of Incarnates but I think that's a separate team w/ some Tekken members too.
TxSF is probably not in active development or has very few people working on it. I think it's mostly Tekken 7, Pokken Tournament and (lol) Summer Lesson. So basically just T7 and Pokken.
I'm just thinking it must be a huge team.
Master Thespian
Member
Much sooner than I expected. I'm really excited to see how willing Harada is to tinker with the gameplay formula.
Wow, amazing, so SOON. I'm so pumped.
Booooo. I wanted the Kazuya one.
AAK will probably take the Heihachi one.
For anyone wanting a Heihachi avatar:
Booooo. I wanted the Kazuya one.
AAK will probably take the Heihachi one.
^^^
Don't worry I'm sticking with my eyeless mad Heihachi
Not sure how I feel about "online" matchmaking happening at arcades? Completely defeats the purpose of an arcade experience. Is the netcode THAT good in Japan?
Didn't watch the stream but it was mentioned on eventhubs that the graphics are only about 50% complete and this location test is only to get people's input on the gameplay system. I guess they're waiting to release a trailer when the game is looking good enough to be comfortable to reveal to the masses.
Don't worry I'm sticking with my eyeless mad Heihachi
Not sure how I feel about "online" matchmaking happening at arcades? Completely defeats the purpose of an arcade experience. Is the netcode THAT good in Japan?
Didn't watch the stream but it was mentioned on eventhubs that the graphics are only about 50% complete and this location test is only to get people's input on the gameplay system. I guess they're waiting to release a trailer when the game is looking good enough to be comfortable to reveal to the masses.
R_thanatos
Member
what a tease harada , lol.
Anyway, October is good news . Hopefully with the location tests , we'll have a good idea on at least a part of the cast they plan to put in since , tekken 7 was rumored to have a much more limited cast than before.
Anyway, October is good news . Hopefully with the location tests , we'll have a good idea on at least a part of the cast they plan to put in since , tekken 7 was rumored to have a much more limited cast than before.
R_thanatos
Member
TGS is semptember ( 18 - 21 )
Master Thespian
Member
Thursday.
oh NICE its this week. is there a Sony or MS conference ?
can't wait for new Japanese games to be announced.
OmegaDL50
Member
^^^
Don't worry I'm sticking with my eyeless mad Heihachi
Not sure how I feel about "online" matchmaking happening at arcades? Completely defeats the purpose of an arcade experience. Is the netcode THAT good in Japan?
Didn't watch the stream but it was mentioned on eventhubs that the graphics are only about 50% complete and this location test is only to get people's input on the gameplay system. I guess they're waiting to release a trailer when the game is looking good enough to be comfortable to reveal to the masses.
Check out NeSiCAxLive and Taito NESYS. They have been doing this for years.
It's not about netcode but rather networking infrastructure and many US ISP companies intentionally holding the technology back on the basis of money gouging.
KDDI which one of the major phone companies in Japan with it's emobile service get 75Mbps or NTT DeCoMo's networking hotspots which some of the speeds many would love to get their hands on in the west, which is nearly 2 to 3 times faster than what Verizon Wireless offers in the US.
Japan is also a much smaller country so Wifi and networking hotspots have far less distance to travel in terms of connecting to hotspots. The entire Japanese isles basically is the equivalent to the Eastern US Seaboard in terms of size.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PCV8fmcYYu8/Th7xjwOv2_I/AAAAAAAAC38/3cfWnmYwqmc/s400/japanussize.gif
Or roughly 1.5 times larger then the entire state of California - http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/japan/japanworkbook/geography/map3.jpeg
It's much different connecting from Tokyo to Osaka then compared to say me in Philadelphia connecting to someone out in Washington state.
Lesser distance traveled means less chance of latency, which ultimately translate to better overall connection. There is also a matter of pricing.
Putting things into perspective, So-Net Nuro is a 2Gbps (2000Mbps) service at roughly $50 US per month, and yet Comcast is charging US residents roughly $110 for speeds that barely reach 150Mbps (Extreme 150 service) which is barely a 1/10th of 2Gbps and more than double the costs, quite a significant difference isn't it?
you know I appreciate the complexity they managed to pull off with Tag2.Its an astounding game to watch at the highest level and a game that's truly worthy of the "sport" moniker ,but despite the complexity almost missed out on EVO.
So yeah honestly screw the guys at Green arcade if it means the game will become another VF.
Sure the game has to be deep but not at the expense of playability.And decision like not putting framedata in practice mode on purpose to annoy the player are really backwards.
I hope that's true and they arenot planning to make this a pro-player-only game like TT2.
"e-sports" has nothing to do with the difficulty of tekken, it has more to do with them building on top of each game with every iteration leading to the game that we have today.
Harada has already said that he realises the need to scale the game back to some degree and has already answered questions on twitter about making elements of movement somewhat easier.
nailbombxx
Member
I can't wait to see gameplay hnngggg
EDIT: Can someone make a Kazuya avatar for that image for me?
EDIT: Can someone make a Kazuya avatar for that image for me?
Hype for Ms Mishima.
Tekken will never again be on the "mainstream level" that T3 and Tag were, they're content with making money off arcade pros and owners all over south east asia. Console sales are just a bonus, they won't ever ship out as much as T6 again due to the channels getting burnt last time. (That's why T6 went from shipping 3.5 mil to TTT2 doing half of that)
It's probably a better game now but it's def more niche than it used to be considering it was a pillar of PSX/PS2.....
Tekken will never again be on the "mainstream level" that T3 and Tag were, they're content with making money off arcade pros and owners all over south east asia. Console sales are just a bonus, they won't ever ship out as much as T6 again due to the channels getting burnt last time. (That's why T6 went from shipping 3.5 mil to TTT2 doing half of that)
It's probably a better game now but it's def more niche than it used to be considering it was a pillar of PSX/PS2.....
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Excited to see some nice EWGFs in UE4
Can't wait for this game. Heihachi all day.
Can't wait for this game. Heihachi all day.
Thanks for the info Omega. But despite those connections... is that still good enough to make it replicate the lagless arcade experience?
They already confirmed that they're addressing 3 of the hardest things about TTT2:
1 - Movement
2 - Wakeup system
3 - Character Roster Size + Return to 1v1
I think with every public appearance Harada has continuously said he wants to make Tekken more inclusive again.
They already confirmed that they're addressing 3 of the hardest things about TTT2:
1 - Movement
2 - Wakeup system
3 - Character Roster Size + Return to 1v1
I think with every public appearance Harada has continuously said he wants to make Tekken more inclusive again.
joey_bone_bomb
Member
IIRC Harada said there won't be any TK7 at TGS this year.
He might just be trying to keep it a surprise, but the chances are rather low I guess.
Are there even any Arcade games showing at TGS?
BronsonLee
Member
I went to this one! Very cool arcade, pretty packed. Should be a blast for those who go!
OmegaDL50
Member
Tekken 7 on a network like Taito NESYS or Namco's own equivalent to it won't likely ever be utilized outside of Japan, so even if T7 Arcade machines wind up in the West, it wouldn't matter anyways.
Some of the NeSiCAxLive games support netplay, NESYS runs on Arcade Machines mind you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Taito_NESiCAxLive_games
The game is too hard even for Green Arcade Lol. There was an interview with JDCR that because of the complexity , there are no new players learning how to play and many players from T6 dropped Tag 2.
He said during T6 era, Green Arcade will still be packed till middle of the night and they had to be pushed out of the arcade by the owner. For Tag 2, place is already almost empty by midnight
Well clones are not in the arcade version.
sixteen-bit
Member
looking forward to the spycam footage
Angelus Errare
Banned
Jesus her body is long as fuck. >.>