What's really disgusting is that there were so many GAFfers in here downplaying the multiple sexual assault allegations against him.
And she had to show ass and tits.
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The 89th Academy Awards |OT| La La Land up 3-1, they got this
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Considering how many dipshits were going "Can't wait for the tears when Mel wins!!!", this doesn't surprise me.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Did she make an actual statement? This feels like Buzzfeed reading a whole lot into a presenter not politely clapping.
She has said nothing. It's a bunch of Twitter diviners' portending, and Buzzfeed is going to Buzzfeed.
jediyoshi
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Is this the text version of verbal diarrhea.
Oh wow last year she gave all of the survivors that were with Lady Gaga for the song a hug, that is very sweet.<3
Don't think I knew much of Casey before, but yeesh.
Sapiens
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Pre ghomeshi, I would have listened and believed, post ghomeshi, I'd prefer this stuff go to trail before we make our judgements.
In regards to the whole row between Moonlight and La La Land, I think it'd be more accurate to say that the relief over Moonlight winning and subsequent Schadenfreude over the mix-up has less to do with the election and more to do with the fact that black artists and their work have gotten consistently snubbed at awards shows like the Oscars regardless of quality, such to the point where although Moonlight deserved it people didn't think it was a possibility because La La Land is such a typical "white Hollywood" movie. Perhaps Trump winning exacerbates the feelings of black people, but the arts haven't ever been colorblind anyway. Oscars So White was a thing before we ever entertained the possibility of Trump being in the hot seat.
Discotheque
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yeah i feel like a lot of the major category wins were warranted this year except for emma stone for actress.
i would have had no problems with manchester, moonlight or la la land winning best picture either. although I think silence was snubbed big time. some critics seemed to overlook it too though I think it's gonna be retroactively praised as a masterpiece in a few years I bet.
Agreed.
Probably already been discussed to death but I'm not going to read this entire thread.
I wonder why that accounting firm didn't immediate enter the stage when the wrong announcement was made. They wait until the LaLa is up there making speeches before doing something about it? Really unprofessional.
Apparently there were 2 sets of envelopes, one on each side of the stage depending on where the presenters entered, and they gave Beatty the 2nd best actress envelope. He was obviously confused and Dunaway saw LaLa and blurted it out, but I can't blame them. They obviously don't expect to be given the wrong envelope.
I wonder if they would ever consider suing that accounting firm. They're taking a lot of heat for this and it's a major embarrassment for them in front of millions of viewers worldwide. The accounting firm has taken full responsibility for this major fuck up, and they screwed this up on multiple levels.
I think it's hilarious. Absolutely classic. Add it to the lengthy list of LOL@America.
I wonder why that accounting firm didn't immediate enter the stage when the wrong announcement was made. They wait until the LaLa is up there making speeches before doing something about it? Really unprofessional.
Apparently there were 2 sets of envelopes, one on each side of the stage depending on where the presenters entered, and they gave Beatty the 2nd best actress envelope. He was obviously confused and Dunaway saw LaLa and blurted it out, but I can't blame them. They obviously don't expect to be given the wrong envelope.
I wonder if they would ever consider suing that accounting firm. They're taking a lot of heat for this and it's a major embarrassment for them in front of millions of viewers worldwide. The accounting firm has taken full responsibility for this major fuck up, and they screwed this up on multiple levels.
I think it's hilarious. Absolutely classic. Add it to the lengthy list of LOL@America.
No one is really downplaying it becuase they are, at this point anyway, accusations from two women from the same time period that led to suits and counter suits. They settled them to everyone's satisfaction and we have no idea if the accusations were reasonable or truthful and we won't have the opportunity as every party is barred from commenting.
Wikipedia has a good summary:
Harassment, not assault. Not to excuse or downplay sexual harassment in any way, but it's very plainly not the same thing as rape.
In any event, both cases were settled out of court and nobody else has any idea what those settlements even entailed. So what more is there to say on it?
dave is ok
aztek is ok
One of the women who sued Affleck went on to start iam8bit
Nameless
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Agreed. The lack of recognition for Amy Adams, Nocturnal Animals, and The Handmaiden had me more than a little salty going in. Moonlight pulling the okee-doke only makes me fill a little better.
Tom Ford is 2/2. Can't wait for what he does next.
This is my opinion on it too. And as as far as the allegations themselves, some people here were trying to equate them with Nate Parker's case, which to me was just kind of baffling. Sexual harassment is not the same thing as rape.
killertofu
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Kind of surprised about how cool the reception has been for Silence. I thought the cinematography was amazing but Garfield's accent pretty much ruined that movie for me lol
Silence is incredible. Those torture scenes on the rocks with the ocean waves were horrific. Cinematography is amazing, and Yōsuke Kubozuka's performance was one of the best.
firehawk12
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At least Handmaiden was not their fault. Gotta blame Korea for that one.
I know I am. GODAMN I KNOW!
Such a wrong opinion
I have to admit I haven't, but shouldn't he be the main actor?
FantasticMrFoxdie
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lol damn I just saw the Denzel and Brie Larson clips. lol I feel bad. I haven't seen fences or manchester.. Is Casey Affleck really that bad and didn't deserve the win?
Lionel Richie
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Not downplaying, but putting into perspective and not rushing to condemn him because we have no concrete way of knowing 100% what happened there. Whatever accusations he faced were settled 7 years ago and he was free to do his job, which he did better than basically everyone else this year and was rightfully awarded for doing so.
Vault Dweller 111
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He was in the movie for like 30 minutes, so...no?
I haven't watched Manchester By the Sea, but a friend of mine (who I trust his opinion on many things) says that his acting was just a Casey acting.Nothing more, nothing less.
I like Casey so I don't mind him winning, but I suppose there were stronger performances.
Casey's was actually the strongest.
WaffleTaco
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Honestly I think after the dust has settled, you can look at the films offered this year, and see they were objectively not that good. It was poor year for Oscar film.
Just to compare last year was: Spotlight, The Big Short, Brooklyn, Bridge of Spies, Mad Max, Room, The Revenant, The Martian.
This year was: Manchester by the Sea, La La Land, Moonlight, Hacksaw Ridge, Hell or High Water, Arrival, Lion, Hidden Figures.
Just to compare last year was: Spotlight, The Big Short, Brooklyn, Bridge of Spies, Mad Max, Room, The Revenant, The Martian.
This year was: Manchester by the Sea, La La Land, Moonlight, Hacksaw Ridge, Hell or High Water, Arrival, Lion, Hidden Figures.
The One and Done
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Casey did a phenomenal job. Very subdued performance. The movie is emotionally crushing.
Found Moonlight and Manchester By The Sea both similarly meh films. Nicely made but both come off as pretentious and aren't worth nearly as much as people are making them out to be.
Agreed on Nocturnal Animals being overlooked. That was a truly great film that deserves some recognition.
Agreed on Nocturnal Animals being overlooked. That was a truly great film that deserves some recognition.
This. No contest, as far as I'm concerned.
Vault Dweller 111
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This years list is WAAAAAAAAAY stronger. I didn't love Hidden Figures or Fences, but they are better than shit like Bridge of Spied or Brooklyn. And the top movies (besides Mad Max) were all better this year.
The auditors, PwC, is a British company.. But it was a great ending to whats always an overlong semi-boring awards show..
Extra Sauce
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I haven't seen the others yet but Casey Affleck's performance was definitely Oscar worthy.
The One and Done
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I wouldn't say it was no contest though I'm fine with Casey winning. I think Denzel in Fences melted into his role. I saw Troy not Denzel. Same could be said about Casey. I would have been good either way.
My Twitter feed seems to think Brie didn't clap for Casey because of the allegations that have already been settled.
Garmonbozia
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I want to watch Silence so much, I got so angry when I found out its release was delayed for a month here. Is it thematically similar with The Last Temptation of Christ? It's my favorite Scorsese movie and I've read Silence was a passion project for him just like it.
AuthenticM
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yup, I thought it was very weird that she was chosen to give out this award, considering Affleck was amongst the nominees. I can't believe this also happened at the Golden Globes.
Zoe
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The previous year's actor/actress traditionally gives the award to the next year's actress/actor.
Haloid1177
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It's tradition more than anything that the previous Best Actress gives to the new Best Actor. It was just awkward as fuck this year. And since people expected Denzel I'm not sure any thought came in allowing this.
TangoAlphaLima
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Isn't that standard for the Oscars? Brie Larson won the Oscar for Best Actress in 2016, so she gives out the Best Actor award in 2017. I feel like this is how it's generally done. Leo gave Emma Stone the Best Actress award after winning Best Actor in 2016 too.
Yeah this does look like it is a tradition, so not really weird then.
Hmm, I felt that 2016's top films were at least as good if not better. I think from top to bottom of the 9 nominees, the choices are all better than the weaker links from 2015.
Extra Sauce
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He was brilliant in The Nice Guys but that role does not fit the Academy Awards mold.
People have pointed out Brie's reaction plenty of times. She's handed him awards all season without even a hint of a smile, but when she gave Denzel his win at the SAG awards she was grinning from ear to ear. It doesn't seem entirely coincidental.
The woman who won multiple awards for playing a survivor of sexual assault might not be thrilled with repeatedly having to hand awards to someone who sexually harassed employees and coworkers in the very same field she works in.
Silence, Handmaiden, Moonlight, and Manchester were all phenomenal and stack up there with anything from last year besides The Revenant imo. But yes 2015 had more and it's very best films like Rev and Mad Max were straight up classics.
WaffleTaco
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I disagree completely, I just really didn't like any of this years movies (still haven't seen Lion, La La Land, or Hidden Figures).
I disagree. Most of 2016 films were pretty boring compared to 2015.
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