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The King Of Fighters XII Official Thread
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ShinobiFist
Banned
Fersis, I'm praying to Baby Jesus you get the game. We can't have a OP without the game.
Fersis said::lol
They lost a client, thats for sure.
I dont know how long i have to wait now.
EDIT:Ive called 4 importers now, one of them has the game. Wish me luck buddies.
I hate seeing anyone who is genuinely excited for something disappointed, so goooooooood luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
GrayFoxPL said:
Hey, cool I played against you earlier today
(I'm johnny84 on PSN). Was very laggy 
As an owner of SF4, Blazblue, and KoF12, I think that King of fighters 12 is being terribly underrated.
Yes it has limited backgrounds and limited single player gaming options, but this game is made for multiplayer, with a frien or someone online. I have a blast playing with my buds locally and while the online interface could have been better, SF4s is not any better than KoF12s.
The biggest argument I see is the lack of some moves for some characters and the lack of multiple victory animations.
The basic gameplay is rock solid and the visuals are amazing. I like it a lot better than Blazblue and BB was rated high.
My score 8/10.
Yes it has limited backgrounds and limited single player gaming options, but this game is made for multiplayer, with a frien or someone online. I have a blast playing with my buds locally and while the online interface could have been better, SF4s is not any better than KoF12s.
The biggest argument I see is the lack of some moves for some characters and the lack of multiple victory animations.
The basic gameplay is rock solid and the visuals are amazing. I like it a lot better than Blazblue and BB was rated high.
My score 8/10.
Augemitbutter
Member
had a few nice games today with barely any lag noticable.
but sometimes i get stuck at the loading screen, with no way to escape that dreaded blue screen. anybody else with this problem?
but sometimes i get stuck at the loading screen, with no way to escape that dreaded blue screen. anybody else with this problem?
just received the game yesterday, so far loving it. great gameplay, superb animation and graphics. It lacks extra modes, but that was no surprise, once netcode is , hopefully , fixed, this game will be endless. And as said before, is really underrated.
btw SvC on neogeopocket was awesome, much better than original CvS imo
btw SvC on neogeopocket was awesome, much better than original CvS imo
GrayFoxPL
Member
Glad to see more positive impressions. Yeah, the gameplay is just fun and all the changes make it really fresh experience.
Oh yeah, I remember you!
Like I said I only had 1-2 fights on acceptable speed. One guy sent me a message saying he's from Holland and I'm from Poland and we still had red bar slomo match. Within Europe!
Lucky man. Yeah that happens, but do you wait? Most of the time finally message about error comes out and it kicks back to the lobby. Only one time it didn't and I had to quit the game. Yeah it happens.
Little advice to you guys just going online so you don't make the same mistake as me at first.
Look at other players connection bars - they are blue for couple of seconds then they refresh to actual status. Don't be hasty!
If the connection icon disapears - it's the worse. It's below red bar! Notice it. Do not enter! I made this mistake thinking it's good.
Your connection bar is always blue for you. It doesn't mean it's good. When you enter and see other players red or no bar then you are a problem.
I always leave quickly so not to cause lag to other players.
On a side note I noticed I only can play decently with yellow bars. The couple of times I got a blue bar it lagged worse the red bar! This is wierd but I noticed it in some other games. It's like a connection that supposed to be perfect for me is just somehow doesn't work out with.
JustAnotherOtaku said:Hey, cool I played against you earlier today
Oh yeah, I remember you!
Like I said I only had 1-2 fights on acceptable speed. One guy sent me a message saying he's from Holland and I'm from Poland and we still had red bar slomo match. Within Europe!
Augemitbutter said:
Lucky man. Yeah that happens, but do you wait? Most of the time finally message about error comes out and it kicks back to the lobby. Only one time it didn't and I had to quit the game. Yeah it happens.
Little advice to you guys just going online so you don't make the same mistake as me at first.
Look at other players connection bars - they are blue for couple of seconds then they refresh to actual status. Don't be hasty!
If the connection icon disapears - it's the worse. It's below red bar! Notice it. Do not enter! I made this mistake thinking it's good.
Your connection bar is always blue for you. It doesn't mean it's good. When you enter and see other players red or no bar then you are a problem.
I always leave quickly so not to cause lag to other players.
On a side note I noticed I only can play decently with yellow bars. The couple of times I got a blue bar it lagged worse the red bar! This is wierd but I noticed it in some other games. It's like a connection that supposed to be perfect for me is just somehow doesn't work out with.
My new method of getting better connection is making two-man rooms and labeling the room with my location. I got to play a few matches against a guy that were pretty decent, although (broken record) apart from the one time I played someone who had to be very close to me, no game has ever played as fast as it does offline.
Ever notice this kind of thing only happens with the games you really want? :lol
So is any other fighting game. The point is that the other games offer more for when you are playing alone.
SF4's interface at least shows connection quality immediately. It's better for that alone.
I actually prefer the core game play to both BlazBlue and Street Fighter IV, but the overall package is what makes the other two games better. 8/10 is too high a score for a game that is both lacking in content AND has awful online. I can overlook the lack of modes, but the online being as bad as it is, if I had to score it, I'd probably give the game a 6/10. 8/10 if they fix it, and that's being generous. Actually, thinking about it, a 7/10 might be better, since the next KOF should end up making this game look like a complete joke.
This happens to me in the PS3 version only. It's when I get matched up with people who show blue bars.
Is anybody really dissing the game play though? It's just (legit) complaints about the content and online. No one seems to hate the way it plays.
Now this was an underrated (or maybe that should "overlooked") title. Packed full of content, different game play modes...it rocked! You look at this game, a Neo-Geo Pocket title, then SvC Chaos, which came out like four years later, and wonder what the fuck happened. :lol
Fersis said::lol
They lost a client, thats for sure.
I dont know how long i have to wait now.
EDIT:Ive called 4 importers now, one of them has the game. Wish me luck buddies.
Ever notice this kind of thing only happens with the games you really want? :lol
Noriym said:
So is any other fighting game. The point is that the other games offer more for when you are playing alone.
SF4's interface at least shows connection quality immediately. It's better for that alone.
I actually prefer the core game play to both BlazBlue and Street Fighter IV, but the overall package is what makes the other two games better. 8/10 is too high a score for a game that is both lacking in content AND has awful online. I can overlook the lack of modes, but the online being as bad as it is, if I had to score it, I'd probably give the game a 6/10. 8/10 if they fix it, and that's being generous. Actually, thinking about it, a 7/10 might be better, since the next KOF should end up making this game look like a complete joke.
Augemitbutter said:
This happens to me in the PS3 version only. It's when I get matched up with people who show blue bars.
tzare said:
Is anybody really dissing the game play though? It's just (legit) complaints about the content and online. No one seems to hate the way it plays.
Now this was an underrated (or maybe that should "overlooked") title. Packed full of content, different game play modes...it rocked! You look at this game, a Neo-Geo Pocket title, then SvC Chaos, which came out like four years later, and wonder what the fuck happened. :lol
shaolin242
Banned
Aaron said:
cool i just picked this up sealed (SNK VS C) on NGPC - might have to give it a go.
KOF R2 on NGPC was also awesome. the stick is so great on the machine. just WISH it had a backlit screen
WickedLaharl
Member
still no oiffical word from snk about what they're gonna do about the glitches and busted ass online?
i wanna open my copy but i need snk to give me some hope
i wanna open my copy but i need snk to give me some hope
GrayFoxPL
Member
I think he means the complains and whining overshadowed any info about gameplay. Many people so fucused on the complains(that are valid ofcourse) that a good word on the gameplay slipped past them. The good word on the gameplay just doesn't come alight as much as it should. In this sense it is underratted.
WickedLaharl said:
On facebook Ignition said that SNKP will be giving a statement/info on online play this week.
http://tornadoflame.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/cajunstrike-august.mp3
A good rundown of KOFXII's system by a top3 US guy for SNK (The guy routinely beat up Dark Geese)
Some evo stuff as well from Jibbo to start it out. You can skip after the KOF12 stuff, unless you want to hear about SF4 Balrog/Sagat matchup in depth.
A good rundown of KOFXII's system by a top3 US guy for SNK (The guy routinely beat up Dark Geese)
Some evo stuff as well from Jibbo to start it out. You can skip after the KOF12 stuff, unless you want to hear about SF4 Balrog/Sagat matchup in depth.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
GrayFoxPL said:
Agree completely. I can't think of any other fighter where I could spend so long just doing 1 on 1 or 3 on 3 versus matches and not bothering with the full blown arcade mode or multiplayer
Oh yeah, I remember you!
Like I said I only had 1-2 fights on acceptable speed. One guy sent me a message saying he's from Holland and I'm from Poland and we still had red bar slomo match. Within Europe!
Well I'm in the UK and our match was barely playable. Gonna jump on later this afternoon I think and keep playing online until I find a game that runs at a decent speed
Ok, this is what happened yesterday:
Fersis:*Calls Importer #1*
Importer1: We dont have it
Fersis:*Calls Importer #2*
Importer2:All copies are served
Fersis:*Calls Importer #3*
Importer3: We have it, we can reserve a copy for you.
Fersis:Cool beans, PS3 version right?
Importer3: Yeah, you can pick it up today
Fersis: *Faints*
Fersis: Ok,im going then.
*2 hours trip*
Fersis: hi, im here to pick up KOFXII for PS3
Importer3: wut? We dont have it dood.
Fersis:But we talk like 2 hours ago.
Importer3. hummm we dont have it.
Fersis: you told me to come today.
Importer3: Yeah, but we dont have it.
Fersis: *Insults mother*
Guys this is M. Night Shyamalan material right there ....
I cant freakin' believe it.
Fersis am cry
Fersis:*Calls Importer #1*
Importer1: We dont have it
Fersis:*Calls Importer #2*
Importer2:All copies are served
Fersis:*Calls Importer #3*
Importer3: We have it, we can reserve a copy for you.
Fersis:Cool beans, PS3 version right?
Importer3: Yeah, you can pick it up today
Fersis: *Faints*
Fersis: Ok,im going then.
*2 hours trip*
Fersis: hi, im here to pick up KOFXII for PS3
Importer3: wut? We dont have it dood.
Fersis:But we talk like 2 hours ago.
Importer3. hummm we dont have it.
Fersis: you told me to come today.
Importer3: Yeah, but we dont have it.
Fersis: *Insults mother*
Guys this is M. Night Shyamalan material right there ....
I cant freakin' believe it.
Its sad but trueLyte Edge said:
Fersis am cry
hidepsyence
Member
GrayFoxPL said:
Hey, i'm from Europe too and i've the game (still haven't tried it that much, just came back from vacation), hit me up on psn if you want to try : shinwaIT : )
BTW for the Euros complaining. In the US, I get red bar playing East Coast- West Coast.
Yellow bar I've seeen as far out as Houston and one spot in Mexico surprisingly (though I felt lag there despite yellow bar, and the dude ragequitted)
Someone really needs to do a flowchart Joe.
Fersis, you have a 360? If so, get 360 version perhaps? Better netcode at least.
Yellow bar I've seeen as far out as Houston and one spot in Mexico surprisingly (though I felt lag there despite yellow bar, and the dude ragequitted)
Someone really needs to do a flowchart Joe.
Fersis, you have a 360? If so, get 360 version perhaps? Better netcode at least.
GrayFoxPL
Member
hidepsyence said:
Great! Will do.
Fersis said:
Don't say shit like that! You did a great thread!
Don't worry people just started buying the game. Europe doesn't even get it till the end of the month. There are patches that need to be made. It's just starting.
Whenever you get it you won't be far behind.
GrayFoxPL
Member
arstal said:
Haha. Yeah.
Short version:
Start --> SLASH KICK! --> Did it hit?--Yes-->Cornered oponent? --Yes -->Mashinegun punch!
About machinegun punches for Joe, Clark etc. Please explain something to me...
Does it require milion button presses per sec for it to come out?!
I don't know if it's because of my crappy muscles, the fact I must play on a pad through converter but what the fuck?! It feels like I must mash the damn button faster then in KOF96!
I'm pretty sure that people are using turbo for this online. For this coming out without one wiffed punch is ridicilous.
Urban Scholar
Member
Fersis said:
?!
Oh hey Fersis I just read about you the lameness with the game. If anything when you do have the game it'll be after we hear good news about the online fixes
GrayFoxPL said:
No it doesn't. It seems to come out easier then Honda slaps. It's not turbo.
With Ralf, if you do it the minimum amount it's mostly safe (some chars can punish). Do it any more and you're eating something at least, though not a projectile. (projectile will clash) Occasionally if your opponent is REALLY good, you can mash it out and it will hit them as they expect you not to.
It's not as braindead as it looks.
DanDeschain
Member
I tried to play some local MP with a buddy last night. As the second player, I couldn't even control the cursor to change my own buttons. On top of that, after my buddy set my buttons for me, his were changed to my settings. What the hell?
GrayFoxPL said:Easier then Honda slaps? You got to be kidding me. I can pull off slaps and other mash moves easly but this is really killing me.
Maybe the converter drops fast presses.
Did you try it on a pad with your thumb? Please do this and tell me how it goes.
Still easy. I tried pad after some frustration with hcb, f moves. I have trouble with those on a stick. Only thing I have trouble with in this so far, outside of CC's.
I actually wish it was harder so when I try links I don't get it by mistake.
Augemitbutter
Member
Lyte Edge said:
that's good to know. yellow connections were fine for me mostly, blue got me stuck on the loading screen every time.
Just called another importer.
They have it... hope its true. I could be playing tonight!!
Faith on humanity +1 !!!
EDIT: Wish me luck peeps!
EDIT2: I now feel bad for insulting that guy mother, i was really angry.
They have it... hope its true. I could be playing tonight!!
Faith on humanity +1 !!!
EDIT: Wish me luck peeps!
EDIT2: I now feel bad for insulting that guy mother, i was really angry.
Augemitbutter
Member
GrayFoxPL said:Easier then Honda slaps? You got to be kidding me. I can pull off slaps and other mash moves easly but this is really killing me.
Maybe the converter drops fast presses.
Did you try it on a pad with your thumb? Please do this and tell me how it goes.
must be your converter then. the execution is very easy for me.
Two things.
One:
We all agree that KOF XII is pretty barebones.
But, what if this game were called something else, like "SNK Rebirth" or even "Garou 2"... and it had 12 characters (10 + 2 playable bosses). Plus endings, a story mode and an extra DVD or CD or whatever (some extra gimmick).
Same gameplay. The 12 characters are your 12 favorite characters from the roster.
Would you like the game better?
Would it be worth your 60 bucks?
Two:
The Ignition mod spills the beans:
Shit, meet fan.
Suddenly those wacky rumors sound possible.
One:
We all agree that KOF XII is pretty barebones.
But, what if this game were called something else, like "SNK Rebirth" or even "Garou 2"... and it had 12 characters (10 + 2 playable bosses). Plus endings, a story mode and an extra DVD or CD or whatever (some extra gimmick).
Same gameplay. The 12 characters are your 12 favorite characters from the roster.
Would you like the game better?
Would it be worth your 60 bucks?
Two:
The Ignition mod spills the beans:
Mad Max said:
Shit, meet fan.
Suddenly those wacky rumors sound possible.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Is the Ignition mod an official Ignition employee? Mods are sometimes just volunteers and aren't always actually directly affiliated.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Frankfurt said:
Well that's interesting then. Surprising they would allow him to make such comments. Not exactly going to encourage sales if their own employees won't even back the product.
Rumours about SNK wanting to nick and dime the game with DLC aaaaall the way to XIII.
True? Who knows.
Anyway, "some" guys are talking high and mighty that the whole thing (about making the 2D sprites being hard, and the lack of pixel artists and animators) is all "spin", fanwank or lies... well, Vanillaware weights in (they even mention KOF XII):
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/4097/king_of_2d_vanillawares_george_.php
True? Who knows.
Anyway, "some" guys are talking high and mighty that the whole thing (about making the 2D sprites being hard, and the lack of pixel artists and animators) is all "spin", fanwank or lies... well, Vanillaware weights in (they even mention KOF XII):
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/4097/king_of_2d_vanillawares_george_.php
I don't mind the nickel and diming DLC, as long as the netcode gets buffed and there are improvements done. I don't mind legitimate post-release DLC. Stuff like chars and stages is legitimate.
Just don't do something lame like palette swaps, or Star Wars chars.
Seriously, I wish the online was better so I'd lose more. I'm winning like 85% of my matches right now, that's higher then I should be (most fighting games I win 65%)
I'm feeling like Goldberg in a room with a cloning machine with Jerry Flynn stuck in it.
Just don't do something lame like palette swaps, or Star Wars chars.
Seriously, I wish the online was better so I'd lose more. I'm winning like 85% of my matches right now, that's higher then I should be (most fighting games I win 65%)
I'm feeling like Goldberg in a room with a cloning machine with Jerry Flynn stuck in it.