WoWcraft said:Yes.
WOWcraft indeed.WoWcraft said:Yes.
Yeah, I see what your saying. I largely agree. I just don't think its mutually exclusive. Again, I own a 360 and a wii and think of ideas for games for each. I honestly think some games are better suited to the wii. Some people seem to discredit Wii Sports because its simple. I think Tetris is simple. I also think Tetris is the greatest game ever made.Pistolero said:What I tried to drive home is that the experience doesn't rely on some peripheral stuff to get deeper and richer. I don't need holographic images to get a bon** (Though some people bought that before the Wii hit ), I don't necessarily dream of some voice activated avatar (imagine going through GTA shouting Bang ! Bang ! to get the guy to shoot pedestrians...Some would call it revolutionnary...but na !)...I need well thought concepts (Echochrome is good I think), Better told stories, more interaction, crafted characters...
A CPU and a GPU come in handy to help achiver this. Of course, this is my perspective...
* to the other guy : I played two of the games you mentionned...
BobM said:AGREE!
I think Wii Sports is a great "gateway" game. But i have to agree if games are ever going to be treated as mainstream media like movies then all of those casual gamers will need to eventually become more confortable with "real" games
Hcoregamer00 said:The first game wasn't even released yet, why do you assume there is more than two of them that will even come out?
Bullshit.:lolBobM said:AGREE!
I think Wii Sports is a great "gateway" game. But i have to agree if games are ever going to be treated as mainstream media like movies then all of those casual gamers will need to eventually become more confortable with "real" games
Listen to him! he's right kids.Davidion said:You do realize that the "real" games are why no one takes video games seriously right?
Yes, more animu cheap melodrama and bald space marines FTMFW!BobM said:AGREE!
I think Wii Sports is a great "gateway" game. But i have to agree if games are ever going to be treated as mainstream media like movies then all of those casual gamers will need to eventually become more confortable with "real" games
Honestly, I'm not sure they'd have done much better on 360 either. JP made games (and new IPs especially) tend not to these days, unless they're big budget Capcom action games. Look at something like Eternal Sonata, which frankly had a whole lot more going for it in terms of accessability, aesthetic and budget versus relatively niche efforts like NMH or Z&W. Did it even ship 300k?klee123 said:You might as well include the 360 while you at it.
mentalfloss said::lol :lol :lol
Yea, we need more space bald WWII fitty cent streetball.
ziran said:Admittedly, we've seen a nice start to the tears but I want far, far more!
I want to be able to sail a Wii Fit balance board down a river of bitter tears from those that dislike Nintendo's success, and I'm confident by the end of this generation it's going to happen
Davidion said:You do realize that the "real" games are why no one takes video games seriously right?
jrricky said:that line is gold.:lol :lol :lol
oh, and valkyria doesnt look impressive
inner-G said:I don't care if games are socially accepted, I just want to continue playing the kinds of games that I like.
Its not even a fair discussion.jarrod said:Honestly, I'm not sure they'd have done much better on 360 either. JP made games (and new IPs especially) tend not to these days, unless they're big budget Capcom action games. Look at something like Eternal Sonata, which frankly had a whole lot more going for it in terms of accessability, aesthetic and budget versus relatively niche efforts like NMH or Z&W. Did it even ship 300k?
it angers him. He needs everyone to be playing the same games as him.ElFly said:And Wii Fit is preventing you from doing this because ...?
Hcoregamer00 said:The first game wasn't even released yet, why do you assume there is more than two of them that will even come out?
Azelover said:This guy's comment is a testament to why the Wii is a failure. These so-called "hardcore" games were supposed to be on the Wii as well, as a matter of fact the Xbox 360 and PS3 were both meant to have been discontinued in 2007, but something changed the prophecy. Such a pity it failed, it was gonna be so much more interesting.
Azelover said:This guy's comment is a testament to why the Wii is a failure. These so-called "hardcore" games were supposed to be on the Wii as well, as a matter of fact the Xbox 360 and PS3 were both meant to have been discontinued in 2007, but something changed the prophecy. Such a pity it failed, it was gonna be so much more interesting.
farnham said:What..? :lol :lol :lol
Even failures like Saturn or Gamecube were not discontinued after one year
Oh yeah, agreed... Wii's getting a deluge of interesting but niche JP 3rd party games in the first half of this year especially (NMH, DQ Swords, Baroque, Opoona, Monkey King, Shikigami 3, Heavenly Guardian, Octomania, HOTD2&3R, MiniCopter, Harvest Moon, Samurai Katana, One Piece UA, SS Anthology, KOF Collection, Sega Bass Fishing, etc ... even western conversions like Okami and Samba too really). The field is so loaded really (not to mention big league NCL releases like SmashBros, Mario Kart and Wii Fit) too I think most of these are inevitably going to tank.Staccat0 said:Its not even a fair discussion.
There are SHITLOADS of Wii games man. thats gonna dillute the sales of any niche game.
I'm sure if they were released for something with less selection they would have got more attention. again, Nintendo gamers are picky little liars who really do play favorites, but NMH and ZW are terrible examples of this phenomena.
Azelover said:This guy's comment is a testament to why the Wii is a failure. These so-called "hardcore" games were supposed to be on the Wii as well, as a matter of fact the Xbox 360 and PS3 were both meant to have been discontinued in 2007, but something changed the prophecy. Such a pity it failed, it was gonna be so much more interesting.
Man, I'm regaining faith in GAF! Ther ARE others who see the bigger picture.Gagaman said:Can't both kinds of games just live in harmony? It's this kind of "don't go near my proper hardcore industry" bullshit that stopped comics from ever going beyond this so called hardcore that won't let anyone else in.
You've played it?Acosta said:*high five*.
Wii Fit is not a videogame, is not even in the league of Brain Training and is not going to be the getaway for people getting into videogames (I accept this vision with games like Wii Sport or even Brain Training, but not Wii Fit).
If you extend that opinion to an attack to Wii or Nintendo is your problem.
――Tell us about your take of the future of the game industry..
Nishino:There is a problem with the platforms .. I feel confused that games like Wii Fit sell.. They aren't games.. I did make some casual titles too.. But really.. Wii Fit and Wii Sports should be the gateway for the nongamers.. But ultimately they should play proper games like Valkyria Chronicles
sakuragi said:I agree and I'll be buying his game instead of Wii fit. Vote with your Dollars people :lol
Azelover said:This guy's comment is a testament to why the Wii is a failure. These so-called "hardcore" games were supposed to be on the Wii as well, as a matter of fact the Xbox 360 and PS3 were both meant to have been discontinued in 2007, but something changed the prophecy. Such a pity it failed, it was gonna be so much more interesting.
Acosta said:*high five*.
Wii Fit is not a videogame, is not even in the league of Brain Training and is not going to be the getaway for people getting into videogames (I accept this vision with games like Wii Sport or even Brain Training, but not Wii Fit).
If you extend that opinion to an attack to Wii or Nintendo is your problem.
sakuragi said:I agree and I'll be buying his game instead of Wii fit. Vote with your Dollars people :lol
jarrod said:Nishino's real problem is that hardcore games are thriving... just not generally on the platform he chose for Valkyria.
:lolThrei said:*Nintendo Moves in the new neighbourhood*
*GAF starts staring at them through windows*
*Nintendo unpacks their furniture, including a balance board*
GAF: "Well, there goes the neighbourhood. Why do they need to move in here? Weren't they happy where they lived before? Ugh those people have no clue how the world works..."
Count Dookkake said:I think I know who the voters are going to choose... :lol
PS2. DS in a pinch.Luckyman said:So on which platfrom would Valkyria sell the best?
Wii? Uh no.
360? Uh no.
Moor-Angol said:I agree with him