I'm comparing OLED vs LCD, what are you talking about? And OLED is a more expensive technology than the LCD Sony uses on their phones and tablets anyway.
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Vita OLED burn in.
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I'm comparing the screen on my Vita (which has burn in) with the screen on my Nexus 7 right now, and it definitely does not look "leagues better."
plasmasd
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The new super bright sony LCD screens have bad image retention. It's actually worse than OLED in my opinion. I have a Sony Vaio 11 that temporarily burns in the screen with a static object after 5 minutes. My Vita on the other hand has been fine since launch. At least the image retention does go away after awhile, but its very very annoying
ArkkAngel007
Member
Have some slight burn in, though I'm not sure what the source is. Might be The Walking Dead pause menu (didn't make sure I put it to sleep probably).
Utilize that sleep function people.
Utilize that sleep function people.
If it goes away then I wouldn't say it's worse than burn in. Also my Vaio, Xperia P and Sony Tablet S don't have this issue.
xxbrothawizxx63
Member
There's no way to get rid of it with a white screen fix?
biggersmaller
Banned
Shitty. Hopefully it never occurs on my launch Vita.
I have burn in from the...navigation bar on the right side of the browser. I look at the browser a lot. Ive tried leaving it on a white screen for a couple hours but its still there.
Its not bad, I never notice it in a game or anything. Just a bit annoying knowing its there.
Here is a picture. I never even noticed that its along the top of the screen from the address bar.
Its not bad, I never notice it in a game or anything. Just a bit annoying knowing its there.
Here is a picture. I never even noticed that its along the top of the screen from the address bar.
Although I do like the high pixel density on the nexus 7, oled is the superior technology. LCDs are kinda like glass that has 3 color filters per pixel. Light has to shine through them to show color. OLEDs don't require backlight: each pixel shines by itself when it is told to. Thus, when you want to show color, OLED is punchier because the material is MADE of that color, whereas the LCD is simply a glass that's transparent and then tinted with one of the primary RGB colors. When it comes to black purity, OLEDs have perfect blacks since they're essentially "off" (not really, but the point is there is NO light AT ALL) and therefore black is actually black. Even on the best LCD, the blackest black you could obtain is really a very dark grey: since the backlight is still needed to produce color, the screen tries to filter as much light as possible to give you the darkest black it can, but it will never be actual black since you can't filter all the light, thus ending up with some really dark grey instead.
And I think it is leagues better because I value the punchy colors and 100% black blacks. ymmv.
Andvary
Member
Yes, It's normal.
Vyse The Legend
Member
I was charging my Vita the other day, and I came across it a couple hours later with its screen on. For some reason, sleep mode never kicked in. The end result is: I have a few of the bubbles burned in. Ugh.
poopninjamvc3mk
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Damn this kinda makes me not want a Vita.
goldenpp72
Member
A redesign will not likely fix this issue, it's unfortunate but most of these mobile screens are not assumed to work much beyond a few years these days.
goldenpp72
Member
Burn in really can't be fixed, image retention can be, I don't think the Vita really has issues with image retention but I could be mistaken.
Awful Falafel
Banned
And this is why I'm wary of getting a Vita even though the price drop made it super tempting. Has there been any word about variations in any of the panels used for any of the Vitas? Are there any best practices to prevent this sort of thing from ever happening at all? If it's reasonably possible to maintain a pristine screen then I'll be all over getting a Vita this year, otherwise I'll probably wait until it's a bargain bin console or this gets fixed.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
So I should never play the Vita for long periods of time? or is it just about not leaving a static image?
Picked up a Vita the other day and been really enjoying it. I have some pretty bad Mura effect on it, but I only really see it when the screen is totally black and the lights are of in the room so it doesn't really bother me. Some people say the mura effect gets better the more you use it?
michaelius
Banned
You shouldn't trust everything you read on internet.
Mine is lanch unit which gets used every day and has no burn in
BAW
Banned
I understand that sooner or later Sony will replace the Samsung OLED screens with their own Triluminos LCD screens as part of the "One Sony" strategy. It will also make Vita cheaper to manufacture.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Even my high end LG 60 Plasma has burn in. or near permanent retention. it sucks
people told me burnin was not a thing anymore on plasma.!!! meeehhh!!!!!!!!!11111111
people told me burnin was not a thing anymore on plasma.!!! meeehhh!!!!!!!!!11111111Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I'm just being careful, I'd be pissed as hell if I got my Vita fucked up because of this.
SniperHunter
Banned
My vita has small super dark circles on the top left. There are three in total.....anyway to get rid of them?
FlashFlooder
Member
My brand new Vita has very weird-looking Mura (looks like a short rectangle with a perfect drop shadow), this part doesn't really bother me.
However, my brand new Vita also has a vertical line of blue pixels in the upper right corner. I thought OLED wasn't prone to stuck pixels? This is kind of annoying because I got the 3G/Wifi version, and I'm afraid I'll have a hard time finding anything other than a Wifi-only model if I want to exchange it.
However, my brand new Vita also has a vertical line of blue pixels in the upper right corner. I thought OLED wasn't prone to stuck pixels? This is kind of annoying because I got the 3G/Wifi version, and I'm afraid I'll have a hard time finding anything other than a Wifi-only model if I want to exchange it.
KennyLinder
Member
Even my high end LG 60 Plasma has burn in. or near permanent retention. it sucks
Same here. Panny plasma, still has burn-in from Dark Souls and I've not played it on that TV in over 6 months!
Have had a Vita since the Japanese launch. No burn-in issues here, but like everyone I do have the splotches that are visible when the screen goes all-black during loading. Not very many, but they're there. Whenever there is anything at all on the screen though, no matter how dark, they're invisible, so I just chalked them up to a byproduct of OLED in general and not a "vita problem."
sono
Member
Same here!. Seriously I use my Vita nearly every day and take it with me most places. Reading about this burn in is nothing I have seen. Do those guys with burn in set the power to never time out or something - you must be charging all the time etc ?
It seems very strange that the company would manufacture a game screen that is prone to burn-in. Sony was warning about the use of video games and projection TVs back with the original PlayStation. Maybe they have estimated that the increase in sales due to having a futuristic OLED display plus a very good deal on a source of these screens makes it more profitable to just use OLED and replace any units for consumers who complain.
Yes, the "new TV" thread is filled with plasma fanatics who swear there is no burn-in on new panels. Don't believe the hype.Even my high end LG 60 Plasma has burn in. or near permanent retention. it sucks
static image. and this thread is way overblown.
cool. source? And One is such a bullshit corporate buzzword.
Plasmas have about the same problems as CRTs did. Yes it can happen, but it isn't common although you should be aware of it. Personally, games that have permanent hud elements on screen, I limit to 1 hour per day on my plasma, and I always run 15 of scrolling white bar after.
As far as Vita goes, I really don't care that much because it is so cheap. Having said that, I have no burn-in either.
Mammoth Jones
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I really disagree with this. The vita's screen does look fantastic under normal conditions. Regardless of if it's a cheap Samsung or not. Don't get me wrong, my iPhone 5 and Nexus 7's screens are both gorgeous as well.
As far as the burn in, I always had my vita set to auto-lock/sleep after 1 minute of inactivity. Can't imagine why people would want it on more draining juice. And the browser is absolute crap. I use it to search for tips on games I play every now and then just because I don't feel like reaching for my iPhone. But generally it's a piss poor mobile browser.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Holy hell this thread has been informative I was constantly in fear of Plasmas for burn in, I had no clue they had that many technical advantages over LCD.
Is there a recommended plasma that gives sub 50ms of display latency?
Because I'm definitely lodged in the camp of OLED, the color's on this thing are beyond gorgeous, games like Limbo benefit on a massive scale with the gorgeous black levels and such.
I was constantly in fear of Plasmas for burn in, I had no clue they had that many technical advantages over LCD. Is there a recommended plasma that gives sub 50ms of display latency?
Because I'm definitely lodged in the camp of OLED, the color's on this thing are beyond gorgeous, games like Limbo benefit on a massive scale with the gorgeous black levels and such.
BruiserBear
Banned
Even my high end LG 60 Plasma has burn in. or near permanent retention. it sucks
It's always unfortunate reading these kinds of posts, but there are a lot of people and even professional tech writers who mislead people on the topic of burn-in. It's still very much a real thing, even on 2013 plasmas. I remember going on the AVS Forums in 2003, and people telling me burn in was "no longer a problem on modern plasmas". lol
10 years later. Same shit.
Muramasa looks incredibly good.
BruiserBear
Banned
So in other words you carefully babysit your tv. No thanks.
Please don't claim plasmas are as durable as CRTs. It's simply not true.
preach it brother.
storafötter
Member
Just a curiosity my vita ever since I got it used. It has a weird burn, bubbles when the screen goes dark scattered across. However it has not bothered me most of the time since I havent been in a game that has been dark most of the time. So only notice during loading screens.
I could never have plasmas in my house. I go with mid to high end LED HDTVS across the 4 rooms I have them mounted in. 3 of the 4 have PCs hooked up to them, the one in our room is my gaming rig.
I can't imagine the amount of burn-in they would have (if they were plasmas) between my daughters PC setup on her TV and my gaming rig in our bedroom.
storafötter
Member
Thats good to hear. I guess its nothing compared to some of the problems people are facing here
Vigilant Walrus
Member
yes. AVS forums is where I looked up what model to buy. It really sucks. Because I love my TV, and it cost me 5000 dollars. You don't want to be afraid a piece of equipment that expensive.
Also it was the highest flagship LG model of its time (5 years old)
And I did the thing with the pictures for 100 hours.
Yes. Plasma has a much superior color spectrum in my opinion. It pops out more, but I don't think it was worth it. I still love my system but I don't understand how a lot of people could tell me "it aint a thing anymore".
And then it totally being a freaking thing
So I saw this morning that my vita battery were red, so I went to plug it in, but there was an update. So hey, let's do the update too. I start the update and go to sleep. I wake up 8 hours later... screen of the vita is wide open and bright with the button update complete.
Why. Now I have to update content manager to figure out if its burned in or not.
Why does it not go to sleep mode after a while after an update, even more with the high risk of burn in?
Why. Now I have to update content manager to figure out if its burned in or not.
Why does it not go to sleep mode after a while after an update, even more with the high risk of burn in?
Gamespawn
Member
As long as nothing's touching the screen or sticks or buttons, the Vita should go to sleep on it's own.
ss_lemonade
Member
Lucky me I have no burn in problems as well (unless I just never noticed them lol).
What somewhat irritates me now though are the vertical lines you see when viewing solid color images. Is this an oled thing too, or just specific to the vita because I don't see that on my amoled phone (I get the splotches on both phone and vita).
What somewhat irritates me now though are the vertical lines you see when viewing solid color images. Is this an oled thing too, or just specific to the vita because I don't see that on my amoled phone (I get the splotches on both phone and vita).