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[bbmcgee]

I did read through it.

You keep blaming others and putting yourself down in the process. That's not attractive to anybody.

How am I blaming others by saying I"M UNATTRACTIVE?

And I feel this way after decades of rejection, thats another thing I'm tired of. If you got rejected your entire life you would be putting yourself down to. Men have killed themselves for less than what i've experienced.

 

[bbmcgee]

Everyone has already given you multiple examples of the fact short and ugly men get girlfriends.

I'm going to be blunt here:

Neither are your problem. It's your personality and attitude. They need to change. You're not getting anywhere with any women ever until you accept that and do something about it.

Because they dont understand that their anecdotal examples dont speak for the entire world.

I know fat women who have boyfriends. Does that mean fat women arent correct when they say dating is much harder for them and many of them CANT find husbands?

I know people who have won the lottery. Does that mean I should ignore the fact that most people dont win?

I could go on.

My anecdotal experience is completely the opposite of those people saying that, for what its worth. Most men I know are single and struggling, and even the onces who are not usually got into a relationship a long time ago. Peoople trying to date now are not having a good time of it for the most part.

And lastly, it makes no sense to say 'you got rejected for decades and the resulting attitude you now have as a result, is the reason you got rejected'. Please stop saying that. I wasnt born thinking I was too ugly to get women. I was proven it by my results.

 

[FunkMiller]

Because they dont understand that their anecdotal examples dont speak for the entire world.

I know fat women who have boyfriends. Does that mean fat women arent correct when they say dating is much harder for them and many of them CANT find husbands?

I know people who have won the lottery. Does that mean I should ignore the fact that most people dont win?

I could go on.

My anecdotal experience is completely the opposite of those people saying that, for what its worth. Most men I know are single and struggling, and even the onces who are not usually got into a relationship a long time ago. Peoople trying to date now are not having a good time of it for the most part.

 

[bbmcgee]

You're just ignoring everything I say no matter how rooted in truth. Dating has changed. Women's standards are higher, for everything, because they have a lot of choices and would rather be single than settle in any area. Its just true. If you have big flaws like being short and ugly, you're in for a struggle at best.

Number of 'lonely, single' men is on the rise, says psychologist

American psychologist Greg Matos wrote in a recent Psychology Today article that the current state of young and middle-aged men's love lives shows they need to 'address skills deficit'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Why are increasing numbers of women choosing to be single?

The word ‘spinster’ is still freighted with pity and misogyny, yet the number of women living this way is growing. Emma John says it’s time to reconsider what it means to be ‘never-married’

www.theguardian.com

Women have raised the bar for mates. The toxically masculine can’t meet it

Men who disrespect women are facing negative consequences. In the new post-me-too paradigm, the bar for men has been raised.

www.dallasnews.com

Why So Many Young Males Are Single and Sexless

Relationship trends are jeopardizing intimacy skills.

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[FunkMiller]

You're just ignoring everything I say no matter how rooted in truth. Dating has changed. Women's standards are higher, for everything, because they have a lot of choices and would rather be single than settle in any area. Its just true. If you have big flaws like being short and ugly, you're in for a struggle at best.

Number of 'lonely, single' men is on the rise, says psychologist

American psychologist Greg Matos wrote in a recent Psychology Today article that the current state of young and middle-aged men's love lives shows they need to 'address skills deficit'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Why are increasing numbers of women choosing to be single?

The word ‘spinster’ is still freighted with pity and misogyny, yet the number of women living this way is growing. Emma John says it’s time to reconsider what it means to be ‘never-married’

www.theguardian.com

Women have raised the bar for mates. The toxically masculine can’t meet it

Men who disrespect women are facing negative consequences. In the new post-me-too paradigm, the bar for men has been raised.

www.dallasnews.com

Why So Many Young Males Are Single and Sexless

Relationship trends are jeopardizing intimacy skills.

www.psychologytoday.com

Yes, yes. Keep looking at internet articles that reinforce both your bias and your opinion. That'll really solve the problem for you.

The fact you can't see what your problem is, even when it's staring you right in the face is pretty tragic.

Get off the fucking internet & stop looking for validation for the mindset you've fallen into.

Start thinking about ways you can improve yourself. Stop searching for excuses.

I'd like to wish you good luck, but I don't think anything anyone is saying to you is getting through.

 

[StueyDuck]

It's a bunch of self hating losers, that are so narcisistic they blame the world for there own absolute zero effort failure of a life.

But see... that's kind of 4chan humor though, think of Chad memes and stuff, that's why I assume that culture I guess you call it doesn't really exist and is more a persona used to get people to react.

Like I said I've never understood 4chan/gaming/message board humor, it's like a person playing a character playing a character.

All I can say is anecdotally I don't know an actual human being like that, but maybe I'm just too much of a normie I know guys who aren't the smoothest and struggle to date women but they don't act like an incel. Or at least the perception of what an incel should be. Like a dildoshwaggins from south park type character

 

[bbmcgee]

Yes, yes. Keep looking at internet articles that reinforce both your bias and your opinion. That'll really solve the problem for you.

The fact you can't see what your problem is, even when it's staring you right in the face is pretty tragic.

Get off the fucking internet & stop looking for validation for the mindset you've fallen into.

Start thinking about ways you can improve yourself. Stop searching for excuses.

I'd like to wish you good luck, but I don't think anything anyone is saying to you is getting through.

its not just internet articles, it aligns with all of my experiences and that of those around me.

I've been through this for decades. Nothing I do makes any difference to the results because of the main factors are not something anyone can do anything about.

Its really shitty to get gaslit about something so painful.

 

[bbmcgee]

All I can say is anecdotally I don't know an actual human being like that, but maybe I'm just too much of a normie I know guys who aren't the smoothest and struggle to date women but they don't act like an incel. Or at least the perception of what an incel should be. Like a dildoshwaggins from south park type character

thats because the stereotypical 'incel' is relatively rare. Most actual incels by definition are just normal everyday guys who rarely if ever get laid and while they might struggle with it, they dont become these cartoon villain stereotype that incels are portrayed as.

In other words, there are a lot of defacto incels who are just normal guys who probably dont think of themselves that way, but fact is they are involuntarily celibate.

 

[Trunx81]

If you have a lock and are always failing with the same key, try another key.

OP, how do you approach women? I´m only reading about "they don´t find me attractive", but no intel about how you act or how they react to you

 

[Kenpachii]

But see... that's kind of 4chan humor though, think of Chad memes and stuff, that's why I assume that culture I guess you call it doesn't really exist and is more a persona used to get people to react.

Like I said I've never understood 4chan/gaming/message board humor, it's like a person playing a character playing a character.

All I can say is anecdotally I don't know an actual human being like that, but maybe I'm just too much of a normie I know guys who aren't the smoothest and struggle to date women but they don't act like an incel. Or at least the perception of what an incel should be. Like a dildoshwaggins from south park type character

U are to much of a normy because u probably get into contact with real woman and know what woman are.

A lot of men, don't socialize for shit. They are introvert as hell, shy, have no social skill and start to move to forums after failing miserably on the dating scene ( didn't even try, send 2 messages to 1% of top models ) as the only example they have is porn. To find a explanation for there results. And sooner rather then later they spiral down to absolute incels by the endless information and community's they join. that is fed to them that confirm there biases about those subjects. And they will just start to either become complete degens to the point as a 6,6 male i wouldn't even be comfortable sitting next to said person.

I had a buddy of mine once, that basically had no sisters, no female family members. The only female in his family outside of school was his mom and his dad absolute threaded her like garbage, the same for him.

He would always play online, join some shit discord channel to talk about waifu's all day long and about sexualizing woman to the moon. His communication skills in real life started to blur into his online persona where he wouldn't laugh about something but say lol at the end in the open. And was completely awkward as result.

I took the guy to some friends of mine and started to visit actual woman places and the shit that came out of his mouth afterwards where always heavily critizing the woman on there looks they where not up to his standards. I once put him on the spot by asking 2 girls what they thought about my friend, and they completely destroyed his self found confidence by saying he looks basically like shit. Nothing had to do with height, or his face but by how he represented himself, and that they wouldn't know if they liked him because he never even talked to them in the first place, even while visiting multiple times.

Eventually he found a girl, married and is happy and made a complete u turn. but now imagine if that guy doesn't have a buddy that lives in the reality. What would have happened? he would probably now be jerking off to some animal porn, because his dick doesn't get hard anymore from even 1% top photo models, be a 4chan turbo user and visit the dark web and watch every video about "woman are bad", because if youtube says so, it must be true right.

 

[bbmcgee]

If you have a lock and are always failing with the same key, try another key.

OP, how do you approach women? I´m only reading about "they don´t find me attractive", but no intel about how you act or how they react to you

Over the course of decades I've tried different things. But I learned pretty early on, when you look like I do you can't really be direct, like just up to someone at a bar. BEcause the reality is, there's nothing for them to be attracted to and they move on before they can know anything about you. I would just get rejected very quickly.

So my main game was the long game, as in just try to get to know women through different activities and groups, and try to build interest over time. That has also never worked but at least I get a chance to get to know people.

For what its worth, I still do this technically but I fully understand I'll just make friends and nobody will ever be interested in more.

 

[Trunx81]

Over the course of decades I've tried different things. But I learned pretty early on, when you look like I do you can't really be direct, like just up to someone at a bar. BEcause the reality is, there's nothing for them to be attracted to and they move on before they can know anything about you. I would just get rejected very quickly.

So my main game was the long game, as in just try to get to know women through different activities and groups, and try to build interest over time. That has also never worked but at least I get a chance to get to know people.

For what its worth, I still do this technically but I fully understand I'll just make friends and nobody will ever be interested in more.

Sounds like Kevin James from Hitch - The date doctor

When was the last time you asked a woman out? I can fully understand that earlier rejections made you think you are "not worthy", but giving up is no option. Rejection is a natural process where you can only learn from. A typical thing you often see is guys approaching a woman, asking her out, get rejected and then start to insult the woman, like "You are fat anyway!". That´s bs, of course. If you get rejected, you should look what YOU did wrong: Have you been to needy? Did you appear creepy? Was the timing wrong, did you fail "the game"? Human interaction, especially with females, is rarely taught and hard to master. That´s why there even IS an Incel community: People who are just not ready to change themselves, their attitude and envy women as they appear to just have to go into a bar to hookup.

Women want confident guys, so I disagree with your "when you look like I do you can´t really be direct". Would just try the opposite. I KNOW that it is hard, especially when you don´t like yourself. You will get rejected a lot. But keep trying, keep learning. Would you give up searching for a job after 100 rejections? Or would you try to make it better?

 

[StueyDuck]

U are to much of a normy because u probably get into contact with real woman and know what woman are.

A lot of men, don't socialize for shit. They are introvert as hell, shy, have no social skill and start to move to forums after failing miserably on the dating scene ( didn't even try, send 2 messages to 1% of top models ) as the only example they have is porn. To find a explanation for there results. And sooner rather then later they spiral down to absolute incels by the endless information and community's they join. that is fed to them that confirm there biases about those subjects. And they will just start to either become complete degens to the point as a 6,6 male i wouldn't even be comfortable sitting next to said person.

I had a buddy of mine once, that basically had no sisters, no female family members. The only female in his family outside of school was his mom and his dad absolute threaded her like garbage, the same for him.

He would always play online, join some shit discord channel to talk about waifu's all day long and about sexualizing woman to the moon. His communication skills in real life started to blur into his online persona where he wouldn't laugh about something but say lol at the end in the open. And was completely awkward as result.

I took the guy to some friends of mine and started to visit actual woman places and the shit that came out of his mouth afterwards where always heavily critizing the woman on there looks they where not up to his standards. I once put him on the spot by asking 2 girls what they thought about my friend, and they completely destroyed his self found confidence by saying he looks basically like shit. Nothing had to do with height, or his face but by how he represented himself, and that they wouldn't know if they liked him because he never even talked to them in the first place, even while visiting multiple times.

Eventually he found a girl, married and is happy and made a complete u turn. but now imagine if that guy doesn't have a buddy that lives in the reality. What would have happened? he would probably now be jerking off to some animal porn, because his dick doesn't get hard anymore from even 1% top photo models, be a 4chan turbo user and visit the dark web and watch every video about "woman are bad", because if youtube says so, it must be true right.

oh yeah i definitely know guys who have way to high of standards and expect women to be essentially be meat , hence why they struggle and they never realise that's why the struggle, there's a lot of emphasis some guys put into "yo dude you gotta get some pussy tonight, it's a friday night" and it really is the worst attitude to have because there's a 99% chance that's gonna turn off any woman since they are out to just have fun with friends and not be treated like meat.

I'll agree there's definitely an attitude issue towards dating and what essentially is meant to be the outcome from "a night out with the lads", sure when you are 20 something and at uni then i get it, i did it myself, it was literally all about getting laid and getting drunk, but then you can't have high standards in that regard hahahaha, most of us learn that pretty quick at uni, the joke was always if you could wrap your arms around and grab your own hands then it's A-OK

But guys should really grow out of that fairly quickly, especially when you move into your career and start needing to be professional.

Again though, I don't know if all that to me is classified as an "incel" though, i dunno i just think that's an awkward dude. Incel seems to like this extreme outlier that anita sarkeesian wants to warn CNN about because they are all secretly becoming dangerous, I just don't know if i personally believe that is a real thing and not just something 4chan invented as a joke to poke at those types of people

I guess the answer to anyone who feels they are an incel though is simple, just go be a normal human being, i wouldn't even say "be confident and funny" cause even that sounds like a cheat code for some sort of game where the prize is penetration, like just get out of that mindset altogether, go out, socialise, join a club, meet friends of friends and eventually you will find someone who matches you , probably someone awkward too who loves anime and waifus and get this idea of dating a super model far out of your head. Also for the love of all that is holy don't use Tinder or Bumble or any dating app, it's the most depressing thing a young man can do and it will cause you to spiral, those apps are there to make money, not get you laid.

 

[Kenpachii]

Over the course of decades I've tried different things. But I learned pretty early on, when you look like I do you can't really be direct, like just up to someone at a bar. BEcause the reality is, there's nothing for them to be attracted to and they move on before they can know anything about you. I would just get rejected very quickly.

So my main game was the long game, as in just try to get to know women through different activities and groups, and try to build interest over time. That has also never worked but at least I get a chance to get to know people.

For what its worth, I still do this technically but I fully understand I'll just make friends and nobody will ever be interested in more.

U try to convince us that your shit personality riddled with defeatism isn't translating towards your real self? yea doubt it.

Like how much did you date in the last month? if i was single and i need a girlfriend i would be asking girls out from the left and the right, would go to bars, would go to other outgoing places and ask around until i get somebody. And if that's not your thing then keep starting to do activitiy's where woman are found and keep trying to connect.

Big plus point about activity's is that u can talk as a person and they get to know u more. Keep doing this even if u tried it already.

 

[bbmcgee]

U try to convince us that your shit personality riddled with defeatism isn't translating towards your real self? yea doubt it.

Like how much did you date in the last month? if i was single and i need a girlfriend i would be asking girls out from the left and the right, would go to bars, would go to other outgoing places and ask around until i get somebody. And if that's not your thing then keep starting to do activitiy's where woman are found and keep trying to connect.

Big plus point about activity's is that u can talk as a person and they get to know u more. Keep doing this even if u tried it already.

I've said this a few times, I obviously wasnt born thinking about it this way. Decades of rejection take a toll. You can't then say the resulting feelings/attitude I have from all those years, was actually the cause. That's impossible. Some of you are just going out of your way to try to shit on me instead of admit, sometimes, life isn't fair and not everyone can get what they want. Which is pretty obvious but when it comes dating, a lot of people refuse to say this.

I dont bother trying to date anymore, because in decades of trying it never worked. Nobody is ever interested in me. I stopped asking women out a few years ago because it never worked. At some point there's no point.

 

[bbmcgee]

Sounds like Kevin James from Hitch - The date doctor

When was the last time you asked a woman out? I can fully understand that earlier rejections made you think you are "not worthy", but giving up is no option. Rejection is a natural process where you can only learn from. A typical thing you often see is guys approaching a woman, asking her out, get rejected and then start to insult the woman, like "You are fat anyway!". That´s bs, of course. If you get rejected, you should look what YOU did wrong: Have you been to needy? Did you appear creepy? Was the timing wrong, did you fail "the game"? Human interaction, especially with females, is rarely taught and hard to master. That´s why there even IS an Incel community: People who are just not ready to change themselves, their attitude and envy women as they appear to just have to go into a bar to hookup.

Women want confident guys, so I disagree with your "when you look like I do you can´t really be direct". Would just try the opposite. I KNOW that it is hard, especially when you don´t like yourself. You will get rejected a lot. But keep trying, keep learning. Would you give up searching for a job after 100 rejections? Or would you try to make it better?

Dude, I did all these things. i'm not 15 yrs old in high school upset cause the first girl I talked to said no.

It. doesnt work. I can be direct or indirect or anything in between. It has never worked.

I stopped asking out women years ago, because it never worked. Nobody on this earth can get rejected constantly for years on end like this, and not eventually realize there's no point.

And then I see hoards of other guys in similar situations, and I see the facts coming out studying this issue like those I've shared early in this thread(such as https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...lonely-single-men-rise-says-psychologist.html) and its not hard to face reality. Its very clear.

If an obese woman was having a hard time dating, everyone would fully acknowledge the reality of the situation(you're having a hard time because you're fat, not because you're a bad piece of chit person). But for some reason when its unattractive men, people pretend like these things arent happening.

 

[Roxkis_ii]

I haven't read all the post in the last 5 pages, so forgive me if this has been answered already, but B bbmcgee , do you want to be lonely?

 

[bbmcgee]

I haven't read all the post in the last 5 pages, so forgive me if this has been answered already, but B bbmcgee , do you want to be lonely?

Obviously not, but I've accepted all I can do is have friends and pets. Contrary to what some of these delusional fools are saying to me, not everyone is lucky enough to get a relationship. 'Someone for everyone' is a saying but has never been true especially not now.

 

[Roxkis_ii]

Obviously not, but I've accepted all I can do is have friends and pets. Contrary to what some of these delusional fools are saying to me, not everyone is lucky enough to get a relationship. 'Someone for everyone' is a saying but has never been true especially not now.

I'm sad to see you that you feel like that. Dating certainly hasn't nt become easier but
I personally feel anyone can get a mate if they put in enough effort into it.

You seem pretty set in your thought of being an incel, so I won't try to dig you out that hole. I just hope you come to the realization that there is hope out there for you, but the only person who can save you is you.

If you would like some wisdom on being a man, I recommend reading "The Way of the Superior Man" by David Deida. Not everything in the book is for everyone, but one thing I learned as a man, we need to work on our purpose (whatever you choose that to be) and put that above all else. If you have something your working on or towards, it makes being lonely not as bad, because you have a higher purpose. It also has a side effect of making you more attractive believe it or not.

 

[bbmcgee]

I'm sad to see you that you feel like that. Dating certainly hasn't nt become easier but
I personally feel anyone can get a mate if they put in enough effort into it.

You seem pretty set in your thought of being an incel, so I won't try to dig you out that hole. I just hope you come to the realization that there is hope out there for you, but the only person who can save you is you.

If you would like some wisdom on being a man, I recommend reading "The Way of the Superior Man" by David Deida. Not everything in the book is for everyone, but one thing I learned as a man, we need to work on our purpose (whatever you choose that to be) and put that above all else. If you have something your working on or towards, it makes being lonely not as bad, because you have a higher purpose. It also has a side effect of making you more attractive believe it or not.

I mean look, strangers on the internet dont have much credibility. Its nice of of you to say there's hope but nothing that has ever actually happened to me suggests there is and nobody that actually knows me thinks there is. So, sorry for getting annoyed but I dont think any of you know what you're dealing with and the reality of the situation(both me personally and modern dating at large) if you're saying these things.

I dont need wisdom on being a man. I need serious cosmetic and limb surgery because thats the problem.

 

[Days like these...]

I mean look, strangers on the internet dont have much credibility. Its nice of of you to say there's hope but nothing that has ever actually happened to me suggests there is and nobody that actually knows me thinks there is. So, sorry for getting annoyed but I dont think any of you know what you're dealing with and the reality of the situation(both me personally and modern dating at large) if you're saying these things.

I dont need wisdom on being a man. I need serious cosmetic and limb surgery because thats the problem.

Stop with the pity party. How short are you? Is your face disfigured? Were you in a fire or a crash? Did a dog maul your face? I have a friend with 3rd degree burns on his face. It is literally partially melted and he's married with a kid. I'm 100% sure you don't look as bad as he does.

 

[Roxkis_ii]

I mean look, strangers on the internet dont have much credibility. Its nice of of you to say there's hope but nothing that has ever actually happened to me suggests there is and nobody that actually knows me thinks there is. So, sorry for getting annoyed but I dont think any of you know what you're dealing with and the reality of the situation(both me personally and modern dating at large) if you're saying these things.

I dont need wisdom on being a man. I need serious cosmetic and limb surgery because thats the problem.

Is there any amount of information that would change your mind?

 

[Boozeroony]

Negativity and self-pity is are such a turn-off.

Being a relaxed, optimistic dude gets you far. Set your boundaries, be respectful, take care of yourself physically and mentally, buy some clothes (might want to bring someone to give advice) and interact with people. See how far that gets you.

 

[DrFigs]

I mean look, strangers on the internet dont have much credibility. Its nice of of you to say there's hope but nothing that has ever actually happened to me suggests there is and nobody that actually knows me thinks there is. So, sorry for getting annoyed but I dont think any of you know what you're dealing with and the reality of the situation(both me personally and modern dating at large) if you're saying these things.

I dont need wisdom on being a man. I need serious cosmetic and limb surgery because thats the problem.

Have you tried going to therapy?

 

[bbmcgee]

Stop with the pity party. How short are you? Is your face disfigured? Were you in a fire or a crash? Did a dog maul your face? I have a friend with 3rd degree burns on his face. It is literally partially melted and he's married with a kid. I'm 100% sure you don't look as bad as he does.

I'm 5 foot 3, I'm not disfigured just ugly.

Good for your friend but his luck doesnt change my situation.

 

[bbmcgee]

Negativity and self-pity is are such a turn-off.

Being a relaxed, optimistic dude gets you far. Set your boundaries, be respectful, take care of yourself physically and mentally, buy some clothes (might want to bring someone to give advice) and interact with people. See how far that gets you.

It got me nowhere with women.

Again, my thoughts on this are the result of my experience, not the cause.

 

[MudoSkills]

Look for anybody who has made a 'why are women in Western videogames so ugly' thread to locate your tribe.

 

[bbmcgee]

Have you tried going to therapy?

Yes and the conclusion was you can't therapy my way out of not wanting to be alone my entire life.

 

[DrFigs]

I'm 5 foot 3, I'm not disfigured just ugly.

Good for your friend but his luck doesnt change my situation.

oh. you're a short king. I understand now.

 

[InterMusketeer]

What goal did you have in mind when you made this thread?

You don't seem to want advice (which is understandable) so did you just want to vent? Are you looking for people with similar experiences?

 

[Trunx81]

"I´m short on the outside, but with a big heart on the inside"

My ex was a full head taller than me.

 

[bbmcgee]

What goal did you have in mind when you made this thread?

You don't seem to want advice (which is understandable) so did you just want to vent? Are you looking for people with similar experiences?

As I said in the OP and in the title, I wanted to see who else feels similarly.

 

[Days like these...]

I'm 5 foot 3, I'm not disfigured just ugly.

Good for your friend but his luck doesnt change my situation.

Of course it won't but that's not the point. If a guy with a partially melted face can find a wife so can you but you've got to quit the pity party or don't and keep complaining how you can't find anyone.

 

[bbmcgee]

"I´m short on the outside, but with a big heart on the inside"

My ex was a full head taller than me.

'I won the lottery bro, just keep playing'

One thing I keep bringing up is race, which many of you I'm sure have never even thought about the impact of that. In the black community, women especially hate short men, and they also are largely not looking for actual marriages. Its a lot of single moms and very low marriage rates.

Men like me have even less value than you would otherwise think.

 

[bbmcgee]

Of course it won't but that's not the point. If a guy with a partially melted face can find a wife so can you but you've got to quit the pity party or don't and keep complaining how you can't find anyone.

thats not how life works at all.

The shorters NBA player was my height. That doesnt mean anyone his height can make the NBA. most of us cant. exception that proves the rule.

 

[Days like these...]

thats not how life works at all.

The shorters NBA player was my height. That doesnt mean anyone his height can make the NBA. most of us cant. exception that proves the rule.

That is how life works find someone shorter than you not all women want a tall man. I know alot of Central Americans from my years in construction roughly around your height they're all married with kids

 

[Tams]

You know OP, while I think I do understand and empathise, or at least sympathise with you; your behaviour in this thread says it all really.

You'd be best just getting off of this forum (and all forms of social media) and just getting out there and doing stuff. Your obsession with overthinking all this is likely most of the problem.

Really, you're just making excuses and procrastinating. You need to 'just do it'. 'It' being going out there and doing social things.

Edit: And while I mostly joke about bans here, I think a temp one for you would be good for you. You seem at risk of turning from the correct definition of an incel into the defintion most of the media go with. The more you stew on this; the more likely you are to turn into an actual misogynist.

 

[22:22:22]

PM German Hops ..It's all i say.

 

[bbmcgee]

That is how life works find someone shorter than you not all women want a tall man. I know alot of Central Americans from my years in construction roughly around your height they're all married with kids

Yea, central americans that happens. But im not central American and my culture is probably the worst when it comes to height(black american). Black women HATE short men.

 

[Trunx81]

PM German Hops ..It's all i say.

He´ll steal your lunch, be he ain´t steal your gf

 

[bbmcgee]

You know OP, while I think I do understand and empathise, or at least sympathise with you; your behaviour in this thread says it all really.

You'd be best just getting off of this forum (and all forms of social media) and just getting out there and doing stuff. Your obsession with overthinking all this is likely most of the problem.

Really, you're just making excuses and procrastinating. You need to 'just do it'. 'It' being going out there and doing social things.

Edit: And while I mostly joke about bans here, I think a temp one for you would be good for you. You seem at risk of turning from the correct definition of an incel into the defintion most of the media go with. The more you stew on this; the more likely you are to turn into an actual misogynist.

I 'just did it' for decades. I have friends, I went college, I go to parties and do things out in the world. I'm not pulling this shit out of my ass. The results were.....zero.

weird how often these discussions lead to this bizarre assumptions that I've just made all of this up and dont have a life or something.

I'm not at the risk of turning into anything. Really no clue what you're talking about. I dont hate women. I hate people who gaslight me about the truth of the situation, or people who dont even know me arrogantly telling me I'm a terrible person or whatever.

Society has a problem with treating men like me this way, totally refusing to acknowledge our situation and just shit on us even more. And then they wonder why Andrew Tate et al are becoming so popular, because they're the only ones not gaslighting the fuck out of men like me.

 

[Days like these...]

Yea, central americans that happens. But im not central American and my culture is probably the worst when it comes to height(black american). Black women HATE short men.

You know you can date outside your race/culture right?

 

[22:22:22]

He´ll steal your lunch, be he ain´t steal your gf

I dunno man. Jury's up on that one

 

[bbmcgee]

You know you can date outside your race/culture right?

The vast majority of people date their own race. The vast majority of non black women arent interested in black men. Chasing women of other races has a very bad return for us.

White men dont understand this because they are deemed the standard of beauty and arent very often rejected for this reason. But most non-black women arent attracted to black men. And the ones that are, have a lot better options than someone that looks like me.

 

[Rentahamster]

I stopped asking out women years ago

Stopped asking out women years ago. Wonders why he doesn't get women to go out with him.

 

[Trunx81]

it´s. not. about. looks.

This is smth you need to get into your veins. We men are blessed that women select more with their brains, not with their eyes.

Ask yourself: Other than my size, what other qualities do I bring to the table that makes me unique?

 

[bbmcgee]

Stopped asking out women years ago. Wonders why he doesn't get women to go out with him.

.......how many years do I have to do it before I'm allowed to come to any conclusions?

 

[Trunx81]

.......how many years do I have to do it before I'm allowed to come to any conclusions?

average life span is 82.

 

[bbmcgee]

This is smth you need to get into your veins. We men are blessed that women select more with their brains, not with their eyes.

This is a myth. This was only true before when our cultural values were different and women were kind of bred to seek a husband and a family, which isnt happening anymore. More and more women are delaying serious relationships or outright never even planning to be married.

The consequence of that, combined with things social media and online dating, is that women have a lot of options and place a much higher value on shallow things.

Again, for the 1000 time I'm black. We have the highest rate of single mothers on planet earth. They arent looking for husbands at all. they arent looking for brains, which is why actual thugs, men in jail, or just low life dead beats have more kids in my community than men like me that want a real family.

 

[bbmcgee]

average life span is 82.

Again, how many years do I have to endure constant rejection before I'm allowed to come some conclusions?

In these conversations its always clear how ridiculous some of you get to justify your nonsense.

No normal person is going to go through literally decades of constant rejection like I have and not eventually give up and conclude some very obvious things, especially when......you can confirm there's a bigger problem with this as well.