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Who would win? Chimpanzee vs. Martial Artist

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It would be incredibly tragic to see a great or even legendary fighter go against a chimp. Anyone that thought the fighter had a chance would be emotionally crushed almost instantly.

I have a friend that used to swear that he could probably take a full-grown bear 1v1 if he had a knife. Everyone I know made fun of this friend for his assertion. I may actually like his odds better vs the bear than the chimp.


I'm 100% serious in my assertion that someone like prime Mike Tyson would KO a chimp before it could do much damage.


The chimp has never taken a hit like that or felt anywhere near that concussive force. One well-aimed punch and Bubbles don't feel so good no more.


In addition, Tyson, Lesnar, etc aren't 60 year old women. They're men in the top percentile of human strength. I seriously doubt the chimp would be able to just rip anything.


But for the sake of argument, suppose the fighter's testicles are protected, or we send in a fighter who lacks testicles, like Mayweather. Bubbles is proper fucked then.
 

Taiser

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Impressive, but then you see something like this:

Brolic lion intimidating crocodile


And you're like, "Oh yeah, some animals are elite for a reason."

i would pay money to see that very same lion trying to do that same shit to a Deinosuchus.

LEuUZOv.jpg
 

TheMan

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my impression of martial arts is that it mostly builds fitness, confidence, and balance. All can be helpful in a fight, but when fighting against a thug who doesn't give a fuck about rules or a chimp who doesn't know the rules anyway, all that hiya bullshit isn't gonna save your ass.
 

Norml

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How can choke-hold someone massive stronger than you with fangs?

Get its back. And if the chimp is allowed to bite,you can poke its eyes out :p


Imagine fighting a guy twice as tall as you, but his arms are also half as long and strong as yours and his grip strength is roughly 20% as strong as yours. Could this guy really keep you in a choke or armbar if you didn't want him to?

If he didn't know anything about grappling I think it's possible.
 

flippedb

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Do martial artists really apply their knowledge on street fights? From what I've seen, they look just like any other person would. There's no coordination or anything. Remember a street fight is completely different from an MMA fight.

A chimp fight would be more like a street fight than anything, I really don't think the human could stop and apply his martial thing against a chimp that does not give a single shit about rules because #YOLO.
 

IceCold

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I'm 100% serious in my assertion that someone like prime Mike Tyson would KO a chimp before it could do much damage.


The chimp has never taken a hit like that or felt anywhere near that concussive force. One well-aimed punch and Bubbles don't feel so good no more.


In addition, Tyson, Lesnar, etc aren't 60 year old women. They're men in the top percentile of human strength. I seriously doubt the chimp would be able to just rip anything.


But for the sake of argument, suppose the fighter's testicles are protected, or we send in a fighter who lacks testicles, like Mayweather. Bubbles is proper fucked then.

Chimps have thicker and larger jaws/skulls than humans. A Mike Tyson punch wouldn't fuck them up too bad and they'd simply proceed to biting Tyson's ear off before ripping his face apart.
 
It is a matter of whether the martial artists can find a tool in his environment.

He could use his clothes as a weapon if he finds a rock. But an empty arena with both of them nude? Hard not to bet on the Chimp. The teeth make all the difference imo.
 
Chimps have thicker and larger jaws/skulls than humans. A Mike Tyson punch wouldn't fuck them up too bad and they'd simply proceed to biting Tyson's ear off before ripping his face apart.
Yeah you'd need something more powerful than a Mike Tyson punch. Maybe a really hard lowkick would fuck up a chimp. But you would have to be fast as fuck and kick as hard as the best lowkick specialists in the world.
 
It is a matter of whether the martial artists can find a tool in his environment.

He could use his clothes as a weapon if he finds a rock. But an empty arena with both of them nude? Hard not to bet on the Chimp. The teeth make all the difference imo.


Suppose we applied the single caveat that the chimp is muzzled. You're right, the fangs are intimidating.
 
Dude, give ME a combat knife, and I'll kill a chimp. With a sword it's no contest.

Dude, you would get fucking murdered by a chimp. Hell, you'd get wrecked by a wolverine, and those are half the weight of a chimp.

Judging an animal by its size is about the dumbest thing you can do. Yeah, a chimp is smaller, but their arms and shoulders have been honed by evolution to be super levers. Can you imagine how much force that little squat monkey (
that's about to murder you
) with long arms can apply? It doesn't need to be your size to be stronger than you.

But yeah, good luck with that knife thing.
 

Heel

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I challenge the chimp to take the closed-door Gracie Challenge. No cameras. He'll leave with two black eyes and his arm in a sling.
 

chixdiggit

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my impression of martial arts is that it mostly builds fitness, confidence, and balance. All can be helpful in a fight, but when fighting against a thug who doesn't give a fuck about rules or a chimp who doesn't know the rules anyway, all that hiya bullshit isn't gonna save your ass.

Do martial artists really apply their knowledge on street fights? From what I've seen, they look just like any other person would. There's no coordination or anything. Remember a street fight is completely different from an MMA fight.

You guys are completely off the mark if you think Martial Arts does not make a big difference in any kind of fight. A well trained martial artist would destroy anybody not trained for combat.
 
The 60s tests supported a chimp strength level of about 2x that of a human, pound for pound.


If we put a 150 lb chimp in against a 250 lb fighter who is pure muscle from head to toe, the strength advantage is largely negated. The human's skill and ability to improvise should carry the day.
 
I remember someone asked this question a few years ago: who would win, a silverback gorilla vs 20 MMA fighters. I remember laughing at the absurdity of the premise.
 
The 60s tests supported a chimp strength level of about 2x that of a human, pound for pound.


If we put a 150 lb chimp in against a 250 lb fighter who is pure muscle from head to toe, the strength advantage is largely negated. The human's skill and ability to improvise should carry the day.
There would be a huge difference in speed though.
 

highrider

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Wild animals have a level of strength that is difficult for a human to comprehend. Even a domesticated animal like a dog. I watched a black lab on the eastern shore attack another dog and it was just mauling it. The owner grabbed a thick piece of wood and wacked it with the type of blow that could kill a person. The dog literally didn't even notice it. Fortunately it stopped.
 

Easy_Money

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The 60s tests supported a chimp strength level of about 2x that of a human, pound for pound.


If we put a 150 lb chimp in against a 250 lb fighter who is pure muscle from head to toe, the strength advantage is largely negated. The human's skill and ability to improvise should carry the day.

You're still left with a thicker skull, a higher pain threshold and quickness. Not to mention nobody can explain the unified rules of mixed martial arts to a chimp.
 

Funky Papa

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There would be a huge difference in speed though.

Most people thinking that a martial artist would have an edge over the chimp seem to ignore how they fight. Chimps don't corner you and proceed to pound your ass like a gorilla; they hit you once and then bounce back to safety before attacking again. And they are fast as hell.

Claw face off, retreat. Maul genitals, retreat. Unless the human got a VERY lucky first punch (and a hell of a good one) he'd be fucked for real.
 

IceCold

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The 60s tests supported a chimp strength level of about 2x that of a human, pound for pound.


If we put a 150 lb chimp in against a 250 lb fighter who is pure muscle from head to toe, the strength advantage is largely negated. The human's skill and ability to improvise should carry the day.

You still have to deal with the fact that chimps are faster, have thicker bones, fangs, and basically 4 arms.
 

M.D

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You guys are completely off the mark if you think Martial Arts does not make a big difference in any kind of fight. A well trained martial artist would destroy anybody not trained for combat.
I honestly feel like that's bullshit.. I feel like no matter how well trained you are, if a huge guy comes at you and he has a massive size advantage you are pretty much fucked
 

meow

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But one of the reasons a human is formidable is the ability to formulate and use weapons (could you imagine if squirrels or spiders or something were as intelligent and vindictive as humans?). So by putting a man and a chimp in hand-to-hand combat, you're essentially crippling the human. I think it'd be fairer if you asked like...man vs. chimp missing an arm and half a leg.

If we're only going to go on physical traits, humans would be so screwed against so much of the world.
 

Akuun

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I'm fairly certain a chimp can throw a human around like a rag doll and/or tear limbs off liike they were nothing.
 

chixdiggit

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I honestly feel like that's bullshit.. I feel like no matter how well trained you are, if a huge guy comes at you and he has a massive size advantage you are pretty much fucked

No. Lets look at 185 pound Anderson Silva. Watch and try to tell me that an average 300 pound man that doesn't know how to fight would stand a chance. Doubtful he would even land a blow.
 
Most people thinking that a martial artist would have an edge over the chimp seem to ignore how they fight. Chimps don't corner you and proceed to pound your ass like a gorilla; they hit you once and then bounce back to safety before attacking again. And they are fast as hell.

Claw face off, retreat. Maul genitals, retreat. Unless the human got a VERY lucky first punch (and a hell of a good one) he'd be fucked for real.
I don't think a martial art guy would have the edge though.
But i have seen people who can give a (low)kick (chimps are not that tall :p) that would hurt a chimp though.
A punch won't do shit imo.
I agree with the rest.
I have been watching some chimp YouTube videos, and they don't seem that fast.
They are in a fight.
 

Gr1mLock

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... Now imagine if they were fighting with no rules and the big guy was punching his face and throwing him around

Now imagine if you understood that none of the rules in place prevent him from punching him in the face or throwing him around.
 
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