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In fairness, Leto's Joker makes this Lex look like a Heath Ledger tier portrayal
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Zack Synder war on comics continues, Jesse Eisenberg to return in justice League
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Sgt. Kabukiman
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I like Snyder more than most but his tendency to just kill off characters that could be useful is really annoying and betrays his lack of vision: Jimmy Olsen, Mercy, professor Hamilton... I mean, he even killed Superman for no reason and wasted what could have been a good story opportunity in a later movie.
Frozenprince
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Especially since this lex weighs a buck twenty soaking wet. Dude would always surround himself with people that could protect him. Killing all those guys off made no sense.
Yeah, at least cera has "this is the end" and that short film with him in the wheelchair.
Already Torn
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Did you see Batman v Superman
Dash_Riprock
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Guess.
Not sure if this is a serious post.
MegaManTrigger
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Absolutely is.
I mean I like Marvel movies enough, but they have shit for villains. Overall I also like most of them much, much less than BvS. BvS was my favorite comic book movie since Watchmen.
Sounds like Watchmen.
Each to their own, but can't agree.
Sanjaaaaaaaay
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This cinematic universe is a shitshow and I don't think there is anyway to correct the path so I think they should just have fun with it. Maybe we'll get a more true to character lex and he drops the whole Mark Zuckerberg eccentric CEO shite after he ends up in arkham.
Lex is supposed to be everything you wish you were. He's an evil Bruce Wayne, basically. Rich, handsome, genius intellect with plans upon plans. He makes you eat shit then come back to you with a proposal that won't make you forget how he shat on you but you have to agree to just because whatever he proposed helps you out or aligns with your goals moreso than your hatred for him.
The latter part of that can be blamed on writing. The former part can't be, on the most superficial of levels, done by eisenburg.
Hydrargyrus
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What's the Luthor's mother name?
Coriolanus
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Hollywood continuing to prove kevin smith correct
Indeed. I can't agree with the near universal acclaim the Marvel movies seem to get. They're pretty generic popcorn movies. At least Snyder attempts (and in my opinion fucking nails) something more. Even if you can't agree he nails more philosophically, his movies are so much better directed and have 1000x better soundtracks, too.
As I said, I enjoy the Marvel movies, especially Guardians of the Galaxy, but I don't really get an urge to see them again. I yearned to see BvS again after seeing it once.
Why do the folks least able to use death as a storytelling tool, use it the most?
Mr. Poolman
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I wonder what will FutureXmDCcomics Zone say about this.
broncobuster
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Thats a thin slice of Lex's characterization over the decades. What started the modern reinvention of Lex was an overweight, balding, petty business man. Eisenberg's Lex isn't near my favorite takes on the character but it's as valid any other.
Personally, I don't like it when Lex puts on his purple and green Iron Man suit to punch people. But they keep bringing that back.
Killing Emil Hamilton sucked because of how on point the casting was.
I really don't get your beef with that scene in particular because that's exactly what happened.
Lex was smuggling the Kryptonite in anyway on the White Portuguese but got the Senator to give him free reign to do what he wants with Zod's body and the Kryptonian ship. He totally dominated the dude by feeding him the jolly rancher.
I totally understand stuff about Lex being too manic or his motivation being kind of weak or the reason for him making Doomsday being unexplained.
andythinkpad
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Eisenberg Lex and Leto Joker combo?
Mighty Chin
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I've just resigned myself to the fact that some people have terrible opinions.
So have I.
Kenzodielocke
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All the jokes being made here, and I don't think Eisenberg wrote the script. Why blame him ?
Also, anyone on the set could have intervened, but nobody cared, so we got Jesse Eisenberg, not Mark Zuckerberg.
Also, anyone on the set could have intervened, but nobody cared, so we got Jesse Eisenberg, not Mark Zuckerberg.
Mighty Chin
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I guess you can take that both ways.
Some people just want to see the world burn
JigglesBunny
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We have DC making films with easily the worst interpretations of two of the most iconic comic villains ever.
Darkest timeline and all that.
Darkest timeline and all that.
Probably will be. That teaser and even elements of BvS prove the DCCU is literally reactive film making
1) Oh no. People hated the amount of wanton destruction from MoS, make sure to say "this place is uninhabited" and to make Batman's motivation due to the destruction of Metropolis, even though he is a hypocritical piece of shit in the movie who has zero regard for human life.
2) Oh no, people said BvS was joyless. Look Justice League teaser, Batman is making jokes with Wonderwoman and Aquaman. Look at this total 180 this character took. Look at the Flash he's funny right? Listen to this guitar riff
The DCCU is a fucking dumpster fire.
Watchman and 300 are good movies, BvS and Man of Steel are terrible movies.
The marvel movies are directed by different people and definitely aren't all above the DC movies as far as quality. They shouldn't be treated as a monolith. The one thing the DC movies have that the marvel movies don't is, because of their grim-dark nature, the stakes seem a lot higher. This is definitely something the Marvel movies could siphon a tiny bit of inspiration from. It's universally accepted the villains in the marvel movies fucking suck. I feel like I'm watching a cartoon when watching marvel movies, (and maybe that's what they are going for) but the lack of any real risks has set in and I'm feeling the fatigue.
the anime man
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Jesse's Lex was bad but not as bad as Jared Leto's Joker.
Maybe he'll be better in Justice League but I doubt it because Zach Snyder.
Maybe he'll be better in Justice League but I doubt it because Zach Snyder.
So they shouldn't listen to us?
Marvel villains better than Eisenberg's Lex Luthor, in order of appearance:
Obadiah Stane
Emil Blonsky
Red Skull
Loki
Justin Hammer
Mandarin
Winter Soldier
Alexander Pierce
Grant Ward
Calvin Johnson
Dottie Underwood
Wilson Fisk
Ultron
Kilgrave
Whitney Frost
Cottonmouth
Half of those aren't even that good. The Luthor is BvS is awful.
At this point you just switch em up. It's not really a recasting if you do a switcheroo. Win win.
No. It proves they have no idea what they are doing.
I'm not happy about this. I love DC. I don't like looking at something I should like with intense cynicism and skepticism
Imperfected
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I think people are fine with Jimmy Olsen not being in the movies at all or not having a meaningful role beyond being an extra in a single Daily Planet scene.
The thing that upsets them is the sort of "fuck you" nature of putting him in just for that.
Why should they?
They make terrible film after terrible film but still see huge returns, it's like trying to critique Bay's Transformers.
The only losers are the fans who want good DC films
Marvel movie villains better than Lex:
Marvel show villains better than Lex:
Almost all of them
Sgt. Kabukiman
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For real. And if I remember correctly, there was an interview with Richard Schiff in which he said that he was a massive comic-book fan and that he was super excited to be playing Hamilton. The DCCU has just barely started but there are so many missed opportunities already.
I'm not big on the MCU but at least they're smart enough to not imitate their comic counterpart. I think the fact that there hasn't been a major death in the MCU outside of Coulson is actually a really smart decision. They're not backing themselves into a corner.
Mr. Poolman
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