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KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW
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SolidSnakex said:
That'd be my worry as well, my only suggestion for that would be to lock that class out of small confined maps. I think it'd work well in more open maps like Market, not so much in a tight quarters map. Though if they limit the ammo, the damage it does, and the time fire burns for it could work. I think rockets are more annoying and deadly since they can be shot from long distance and kill anything and everybody in one hit. A guy with a flamethrower and fuel tank on his back could be set on fire and killed just by shooting his tank pack.
Last night was funny in the beta as some guy on the other team was using nothing but rockets over and over. I swear some people wanted to strangle him through the tv.
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
But seriously, what did they say about the Helghast? I haven't heard it, but my first thought is that if you're gonna complain about enemies in the game, there's a fucking ton of games out there with enemies that look bad. The ones in Killzone actually look good and have consistent design between the various types, judging from what I've seen.
itsinmyveins
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Ceb said:
Did they actually complain about the Helghast having masks? I bet they gave HL2 shit since the combine have masks on them!
I definitely prefer enemies having masks over five different kinds of faces repeated Ad nauseam throughout the entire game, or monsters with actual faces that all look the same (grunts in GoW for example).
The whole look of the Killzone games, with the Helghast and all, is one of the reason that game stands out.
ChryZ said:
It was only an off-hand remark? :lol
Man, I've seen 1up and Killzone 2 being commented so much in other threads I was beginning to get the impression they were like five people just hating on the game, as a response to all the hype and expectations or something :lol
SolidSnakex
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ItsInMyVeins said:
rocksolidaudio said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13899020&postcount=263
InterMoniker
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Schrade said:Sev saying "Aw Shit!":
I figured that one could be used for something in other threads.
hahaha "Bail Out!" would be perfect right when he turns around after saying "Oh Shit"Full Recovery said:
Virtua Ben
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ChryZ said:
Didn't Nick Suttner say something about this too?
itsinmyveins
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SolidSnakex said:
Hmm, but isn't the Helghast from the moon or Mars or something and needs those masks and shit to be able to function on earth or whatever due to difference in atmosphere or something like that?
Honestly, "can't put my finger on that" sounds like a bad excuse. What "way you're introduced to them and their place in the narrative"? What does that even mean in the context of HL2? You see them, they boss you around and then you fight them. What's this about a place in the narrative?
Kabuki Waq
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GAZERK said:
this is the same dude that complained about deadspace needing a "gimmick" right?:lol
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
speedpop said:The Helghast are just rip-offs (or unstated inspiration) of the Kerberos Panzer Cops - a manga and anime saga that was created in 1988 spanning a decade or so.
Yes, I've seen Jin-Roh. KZ2 has a whole variety of designs on different enemy types, right?
What's your point?
SolidSnakex
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speedpop said:
Because he wouldn't get far trying to sue someone over modified gas masks.
"God's Beard!"
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try again.speedpop said:
speedpop said:
I just think people are starting to grow tired of all the silly nitpicking regarding this game...
It's cool for HL2 to use faceless enemies, but Killzone 2 uses mask & have over 10 different variations of these faceless enemies & still get beat up about not using faces...
Honestly I think it get's silly to see twins & quintuplets all over the place playing every other title ever created...
I definitely know this game will have short coming, but it's starting to piss me off when you hear people bitching about Sev's hair style or other trivial bullshit. I have yet to hear the gaming media provide some constructive criticism it's just the typical bullshit you would expect to hear for any AAA PS3 exclusive title...
I can see the reviews now:
"Killzone 2 is a technical marvel with amazing visuals & production value, but does not innovate or redefine the genre."
I just find it amusing how every PS3 exclusive is expected to revolutionize the genre...
InterMoniker
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ItsInMyVeins said:
I think it was that Nick Suttner guy. Tina complained about the cover system after saying it was one of the best things in the game... Enough with one up though they're probably just trying to cause controversy to get more hits on there site. Ignore there unfound complaints.ChryZ said:
I really like the enemies in killzone 2. And if he said the helgahst aren't scary then what videogame enemy is? The enemies from halo? lol
itsinmyveins
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speedpop said:
I'm not feisty dude, I just don't wanna get into that design discussion since I read a few pages of it in some thread a few days ago
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
speedpop said:
This is always a fun topic... I don't feel like digging up dev quotes, but it's been addressed many times.
There are plenty of instances in most games where things look similar to other stuff... doesn't necessarily mean it was ripped off.
Nearly every scifi game looks like it lifted shit directly from Aliens.
Kabuki Waq
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I jusy hope the signle player campaign isnt absolute scripted crap AI crap that the COD4 campaign was. Sure those enemies has faces but they were more like drones than any other fps games i have played. Cod5 is the same way and didnt Nick enjoy that game?
"God's Beard!"
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oh fuck guys mamoru oshii must be PISSED
By all means, please provide them. I wouldn't have a clue because I'm not a Killzone fan, I'm just being a bitter Kerberos Saga fan who feels that the Killzone developers do not have an original bone in their body because they couldn't figure out how to draw their own original enemies.recklessmind said:
I'd love nothing more for them to state "we read Kerberos, we love it, we used the characters that Oshii created as a backbone to our own creations."
God's Beard said:
"God's Beard!"
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UH OH it looks like the only mind Psycho Mantis is reading is Mamoru Oshii's
You'll have to use the other controller port to win THAT court case!
You'll have to use the other controller port to win THAT court case!
Not this fucking shit again. Look, it's 2003 old news.
I saw the Jin-Roh anime after we've already had a design (though of course there's a whole bunch of other Jin-Roh material before the anime), and showed it to the lead character designer who said he hadn't seen it before and didn't base/rip it from Jin-Roh. He's way more of a 2000AD fan anyway than a manga/anime one. Both Jin-Roh and Killzone borrow heavily from 30s/40s fascism and warfare.
The armor is completely different except for the color; and the only real similarities are the mask and glowing eyes.
Jin-Roh's armor is plated metal, while Killzone's isn't. Etc. Look, I love Jin-Roh, but you're heavily mistaken if you think Jin-Roh is completely original regarding the designs.
I saw the Jin-Roh anime after we've already had a design (though of course there's a whole bunch of other Jin-Roh material before the anime), and showed it to the lead character designer who said he hadn't seen it before and didn't base/rip it from Jin-Roh. He's way more of a 2000AD fan anyway than a manga/anime one. Both Jin-Roh and Killzone borrow heavily from 30s/40s fascism and warfare.
The armor is completely different except for the color; and the only real similarities are the mask and glowing eyes.
Jin-Roh's armor is plated metal, while Killzone's isn't. Etc. Look, I love Jin-Roh, but you're heavily mistaken if you think Jin-Roh is completely original regarding the designs.
Virtua Ben
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:lol
This is such a stupid argument.
This is such a stupid argument.
Clinton514
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Heh, it won't happen.speedpop said:
Kabuki Waq
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guys who cares ppl rip of inferior shit all the time. It doesnt matter.
What I am more concerned about is that the SP campaign is being compared to the COD games. Which are shallow AI-less gimmick filled affairs. According to the AI video on gametrailers the Dev says AI will actully be dynamic thus nothing like Cod games?
Cod games are the biggest offenders when it comes to throwing drones at you yet 1up never complains about them!
What I am more concerned about is that the SP campaign is being compared to the COD games. Which are shallow AI-less gimmick filled affairs. According to the AI video on gametrailers the Dev says AI will actully be dynamic thus nothing like Cod games?
Cod games are the biggest offenders when it comes to throwing drones at you yet 1up never complains about them!
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
GAZERK said:
It's been tread over a million+ times... and I can see why people would bring it up. There certainly are similarities. But why must it be that anyone who brings up the similarities is always such a massive douche about it?
Kind of starts things off on the wrong foot.
Clinton514
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jett said:
Scolar Visari, looking like an evil motherfucker even from a young age.
When did this go up? Because I don't see it live yet.
edit: refreshed, I see it now.
Kabuki Waq said:
Well COD is not an exclusive AAA PS3 title...
Killzone 2 should have AI good enough to do your discrete math homework.
Let's remember the PS3 has the cell processor so the AI should be smart enough to wait until you turn off your PS3 to win the war in Helghan...
People compare everything to CoD cause everyone ball licks Infinity Ward for no reason. Then they go whine about the same shit CoD does exactly when it's in other games. Oh this is too linear! Oh this game has bad AI! Oh this game has respawning enemies! Oh this game has gimmicky bullshit! Oh this game has frustrating choke points!Kabuki Waq said:
When did Infinity Ward buy all these people off?
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