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Diablo III: Reaper of Souls |OT| Once again! The Sound of HAMMERS is GLORIOUS!

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Calcium

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Is that supposed to be a rare thing? I do full clears of T3 rifts, and three in a row with no legendaries is commonplace for me. Two days ago I was on an eight rift no-legendary streak, before finally getting a trash two-hander in the ninth rift. As for Kadala, it's been over 1500 shards since I got a legendary off of her.

I usually get at least one per run. If I have to go eight rifts for a legendary I will lose my mind. I'm going to laugh if my next legendary is a two-hander. It'd be the perfect way to wrap up this play session.
 

Totakeke

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Are you using charged up + blessed ground? In packs it will proc rally (charged up hits proc. Proc coefficients on Dot Runes is like .033 which is why even with charged up it procs are low in single target instances) and when you stack it with FoTH Divine Well it gets crazy, to the point that you can spam impactful bombardments/every other cool down skill (blessed ground + provoke charged up = effective cool down while Akarat's Champion is up. The three have good synergy).

If you mean by itself then yeah it sucks, but if you are using Heavens Fury Blessed Ground (or any of the DoT runes) without provoke charged up then you are dong it wrong imo (if you are going to consider synergy then you need to include the whole kit).

Slap blessed ground with charged up, Akarat up and dive into elite packs as bombardments and condemns fly. you also gain the benefit of provoke spam which will give you near infiinite wrath (if you have the 4 piece set bonus. I still run into wrath spam issues as I only have 1 piece of the set still).

The only issue I run into is single target takes longer since it procs less, but I now take stuff like bowmen (whose idea was it at bliz to not have these proc rally. It wouldn't be broken at all if they did and is the only issue I have with this rune on Phalanx. Especially when you consider that shield bearers do proc rally with charged up active) and impactful bombardment to counter that issue. Also keep in mind that the original question was about the shield Eberli Charo. There's no particular reason to use it unless you're not using rally but still want to use non-FoH runes.


As far as a Blessed Shield build, i'm still looking for the weapon and shield. Build looks amazing if you do not have the sader set.

Or you could just use FotH Divine Well on it's own to proc rally. People keep saying Provoke: Charged Up, increases rally procs. So far I have failed to find any firm evidence that it does increase procs by appreciable amounts. Even the spreadsheet says the proc coefficient is 0.

The main problem with the non-FoH Heaven's Fury rune is that it's good at large packs that a lot of other crusader skills area already good at and it's not a skill to proc with. Can you use it? Yeah, but then it's just another skill among various other ones that do good dmg to groups. Also keep in mind that the original question was about the shield Eberli Charo. I don't really see any reason you'd want the shield unless you're not using rally.
 

bcl0328

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Posted this just now.

Since then, I have played a couple of Rifts and have found a Witching Hour then a Wand of Woh. Got some shards. Gambled and in less than 10 rolls, I found a Mirrorball with 2MM and overall some very nice rolls. Ran another Rift and found a Thunderfury.

I have no words.

every time you say you are going to quit this game, a blizz mod grants you sweet legendaries so you stay.
 
So sick of this game. Getting such shitty RNG. No drops at all. Rifts for hours and nothing. Kadala refuses to give me anything.

Just going to quit. Not worth it.
 
Posted this just now.

Since then, I have played a couple of Rifts and have found a Witching Hour then a Wand of Woh. Got some shards. Gambled and in less than 10 rolls, I found a Mirrorball with 2MM and overall some very nice rolls. Ran another Rift and found a Thunderfury.

I have no words.


EDIT: reading fail.
 

GenericUser

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Just tried to play the starter edition of RoS on my Laptop and wasn't able to get decent fps. Even in the lowest setting possible! God, I hate my life, I'd love to play RoS without cheating pricks cluttered all over the place - thank you for not making it possible world.

gotta save money to buy a decent gaming laptop.
 

gimmmick

Member
Behind SoH Odyn is our best weapon, so yes. WKL vs TF is closer, but I'd take 20+ light dmg over TF's proc. Not sure if you're aware, but TF proc isn't buffed by + lightning dmg, whereas Odyn is

Damn all this time I really though the damage from TF was buffed with the added elemental %.
 

Begaria

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I got an ok Maximus last night. Just shy of 2500 DPS, a little low on the strength end, and the secondary was +monster kill xp. I had to reroll vitality to get a socket. It also rolled 17% fire damage. It's hitting roughly the same amount (if maybe slightly harder) than my nearly 2700 DPS higher strength two handed sword I was using before.

I'm at 77% fire damage.

Those fire chains. THOSE FIRE CHAINS. My god those fire chains. We're talking 4-5 Million crits coming in extremely fast on top of my own damage. I'm just destroying everything in my path on T2/T3 with those chains.

Now if I can find a better Magefist (got my second one from Kadala this morning), perhaps a quadfecta with max fire damage, and perhaps even a better Maximus at some point, I'd be set. I'm super happy with my gear and build at the moment.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Begaria-1359/hero/6395374

Oh, ignore my armory damage/toughness/healing. For some bizarre reason it's nowhere close to the correct values in game.
 

Dahbomb

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So sick of this game. Getting such shitty RNG. No drops at all. Rifts for hours and nothing. Kadala refuses to give me anything.

Just going to quit. Not worth it.
You just got a godly Pride's Fall...

Yes please quit the game so we don't have to read these awful posts every day.
 

ElyrionX

Member
I just saw your thread on blizz. It sucks that you can't get your MB, but many people would kill for your wiz gear. I can't even get a tals set or a magefist for crapsakes.

Haha, I don't know. MB is the only drop that I have really complained about. I know my drops have been pretty good so far but I have put in A LOT of time into this game. Every single day since RoS was released, I have pretty much played at least 3-4 hours and even much longer on weekends and on my days off.

MB is just really frustrating because it's just such a massive cocktease to get a Povertyball and I've had that happen four times over multiple weeks of constant Source gambling.
 

Dahbomb

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Dahbomb: Inna's set works now. MoC and MoR still bugged tho.
So it still doesn't work....

If you're a barb, you play fire spec (so really one viable spec) or you're bound to suck and lag behind. That means you need a very specific gearset to be viable at higher Torment levels
Basically exactly like Monk then.
 

Dark_castle

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Posted this just now.

Since then, I have played a couple of Rifts and have found a Witching Hour then a Wand of Woh. Got some shards. Gambled and in less than 10 rolls, I found a Mirrorball with 2MM and overall some very nice rolls. Ran another Rift and found a Thunderfury.

I have no words.

A wand dropped for me just now...and it's a Starfire. &%#@*$@
 

ZenaxPure

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Do you guys have a better method of gearing alts than playing normal mode until they find some decent stuff? I can play hand-me-down with my wizard gear to my witch doctor, but all my other classes are still terrible. Loot 2.0 is great and all but does make it hard to find gear for other characters.

Yeah, crafting stuff. People like to talk a lot of shit about the crafting legs with no special effects and stuff, but, for alts it's amazing for just starting out. Guaranteed 6 stat legendary items that you can craft over and over (assuming you farm the mat for them, but, in a lot of cases that is very easy). I've got every class at 70 and they can all do T2 with very little problems just from me making them some half-decent crafted gear. Also I hung on to a lot of weapon drops on my Barbarian cause the reality is if the weapon came with str I could just reroll that to a socket and the weapon would generally be better than some shitty yellow the alt would use otherwise. Both my WD and Wiz started out with items my Barb picked up that had str on it.
 

Tom Penny

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I think my Odyn is bugged. I got one that rolled no dex. I chose to re roll damage to get dex. Probably should have chose AIS in hindsight. It shows dex as an option and 5 times in a row all it did was change the damage roll as an option. I don't want to keep dumping assets into it if it will never roll dex. Don't know what to do.
 

Discobird

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ITT: Opinions

But at least we can all agree that DH is so goddamn boring to play

Not at all man. I'll repost what I said last time this came up.

(Shrug) different strokes for different folks, I can't go back to any of my other classes after playing DH. Love the glass cannon, constant stutter stepping, 0-sheet-healing-so-avoid-getting-hit-at-all costs, vaulting all over the battlefield playstyle. I output more damage and die less than anyone else in my usual playing group although I run with about 4M toughness and no source of health regen other than pots and globes.

It's even better now that I found Hexing Pants and get rewarded for good stutter stepping and punished for laziness, haha.

I think it's the mobility that does it for me, no one comes close to DH in that department. I feel so sluggish waiting for Teleport/Spirit Walk/Dashing Strike to recharge. Who wants to walk anywhere?

Helps that I have a Danetta's set but I was having a lot of fun even before that. 110 hours in DH since ROS launched.
 

traveler

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I think my Odyn is bugged. I got one that rolled no dex. I chose to re roll damage to get dex. Probably should have chose AIS in hindsight. It shows dex as an option and 5 times in a row all it did was change the damage roll as an option. I don't want to keep dumping assets into it if it will never roll dex. Don't know what to do.

Wait, you rolled %dmg right? Not actual damage?
 

nothing

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So sick of this game. Getting such shitty RNG. No drops at all. Rifts for hours and nothing. Kadala refuses to give me anything.

Just going to quit. Not worth it.

You must not have received the memo... This game is based off of grinding. You understand that much, right? Why should you be rewarded with continuous upgrades for a few hours of playing this game?
 

cdyhybrid

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I just want a Thunderfury for xmog. I never got it in WoW so I want to "equip" it now. I'm using SoH and Odyn Son right now, so TF would probably be a downgrade from either one (unless I get some baller fucking rolls on TF).
 
Yeah this bipolar complaining about not finding upgrades for a few hours and then everything's okay because you find some, is getting really annoying to read in this thread. Diablo is not the game to play for instant gratification. And no matter how bad rng is screwing you, I guarantee someone here is having worse luck. So reading this whining is even more annoying to them (aka people like me).
 

Discobird

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No point listing DH because T6 isn't really farmable for them at the moment unless you like dieing lots.

There are DHs farming T6 without dying lots but they all seem to use some combo of Marauder's 4 pc, Cloak of the Garwulf and Unity + immortal follower trick.
 

ZenaxPure

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I just want a Thunderfury for xmog. I never got it in WoW so I want to "equip" it now. I'm using SoH and Odyn Son right now, so TF would probably be a downgrade from either one (unless I get some baller fucking rolls on TF).

I wish I'd actually get mine when other people were playing with me so I could give them away. I've had to start giving TFs to followers because I don't have characters that can use them anymore >_>

Never seen a single SoH on any character though, so, there's that.
 
I think damage ( the one that shows lightning, fire holy etc...) so I messed up. Regardless when I hit the little option button it shows Dex as something it can be change to. Did I screw up?
That item is ruined. :(

The stats you want on a weapon are:
+ damage (ele or otherwise)
Main stat (dex, int, str)
Socket
(Ias, % dmg, elite dmg, or something)
 
You just got a godly Pride's Fall...

Yes please quit the game so we don't have to read these awful posts every day.

You must not have received the memo... This game is based off of grinding. You understand that much, right? Why should you be rewarded with continuous upgrades for a few hours of playing this game?

Lol. Read the post above mine :p

every time you say you are going to quit this game, a blizz mod grants you sweet legendaries so you stay.

I figured people would read that post before mine.

On a serious note, can anyone explain this? Look at what I've highlighted in red.

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Why the worse range for crit rate on a LEGENDARY item?
 

Tom Penny

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That item is ruined. :(

The stats you want on a weapon are:
+ damage (ele or otherwise)
Main stat (dex, int, str)
Socket
(Ias, % dmg, elite dmg, or something)

That still doesn't explain to me why I get the option of changing that roll to dex and I never get anything except for a different damage amount example 1100-1700 etc...I still have a Shard and TF anyway..not the end of the world.
 

eek5

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That still doesn't explain to me why I get the option of changing that roll to dex and I never get anything except for a different damage amount example 1100-1700 etc...I still have a Shard and TF anyway..not the end of the world.

It's probably HEAVILY weighted to lightning bonus. I've rolled non-dmg modifiers on the dmg thing before but it comes up damage ranges 90% of the time.
 

Tom Penny

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It's probably HEAVILY weighted to lightning bonus. I've rolled non-dmg modifiers on the dmg thing before but it comes up damage ranges 90% of the time.

:( I wonder if I should keep trying. Weapon isn't so hot lacking dex. My Shard doesn't have dex..got burned again by Blizzard but is still really good.
 
Did CC below 4.5% ever actually show up as an option from the mystic? I wonder if it's just a display bug or something more.

I had 1% crit as an option. That's the only reason I noticed in the first place. My chances of getting 6% crit are slim to none with this range...
 

Nista

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There are DHs farming T6 without dying lots but they all seem to use some combo of Marauder's 4 pc, Cloak of the Garwulf and Unity + immortal follower trick.

Darn, I only got 2/3 of those. Though I really enjoy the all skills available enchantress, she is pretty squishy at higher torments.

Don't think I've ever seen a unity and I've gotten tons of ring drops (mostly terrible).
 

Fularu

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I'm kind of stuck with my barb. I mean I can do T2 just fine (takes me 10-15 minutes to clear a rift without rushing it) and never die. Now that my follower has immortal relic+Unity I can probably do T3 and still never die... But efficiency will plumet.

I have a very good Cindercoat but I need the BT pants to be able to wear it :/

I also just don't know how I'll get a RoRG in here, it will be a downgrade regardless of the ring it replaces :(

Any input?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/grosbill-1217/hero/1468398
 

scy

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On the subject of Heaven's Fury + Judgment, the only one that seems to change damage is Blessed Ground so I'm assuming it's the field DoT getting crit scaling and not the beam itself. Just some quick observations, anyway.

So what are people using as damage for single targets? Bowmen are good but man it takes a long time to kill something with just them, at least at my gear level.

Pulling them to another pack. Or let the group deal with it instead.

Besides that, Akkarat's Champion, Condemn, Heaven's Fury (Blessed Ground), Bowmen, and Judgment is the rest of my bar.

For primary I've been using justice/burst which isn't so great (like most crus builders), for single targets I pretty much just use FotH/tempest.

Y'know, this gets said a lot but Punish and Justice are some of the best damaging generators in the game. Honestly, our generators are fine. It's just that relying on a generator to deal damage isn't so great, especially if we don't have something like Mirrorball to push it into "hey, I can just rely on that" territory.

Alternatively, FotH Fissure is the best single target spender we have.

I can't decide if laws of valor/crit is worth keeping or not. It's ok combined with the bowmen for some short burst.

Halving the Wrath cost is generally a greater damage boost over the duration of the law.
 

Taz

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There are DHs farming T6 without dying lots but they all seem to use some combo of Marauder's 4 pc, Cloak of the Garwulf and Unity + immortal follower trick.


Using a unity bug to get insane damage reduction is probably why they don't die lots and I would bet you can Probs count the amount of DH doing T6 without dying lots on one hand without using a bugged item(s)
 

Fularu

Banned
Using a unity bug to get insane damage reduction is probably why they don't die lots and I would bet you can Probs count the amount of DH doing T6 without dying lots on one hand without using a bugged item(s)
Why is unity "bugged"? It's working as intended (split damage). Immunities don't change that behavior.
 
I got a Shard of Hate last night and am doing a runeless shock pulse build. It seems to be doing a lot of damage. Anyone run a build using SoH and Shock Pulse?
 
I wish there's an immunity to knockback item.

Running up -> knockback -> go back again -> knockback gets annoying after a while.

This is the most frustrating aspect of using arcane dynamo + disintegrate on a wizard. The dmg bonus lasts until you stop channeling. Knockback breaks channeling. So annoying.
 
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