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Doctor Who Series 8 |OT| We've fucking time-travelled, yes?

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Yeah, I quite enjoyed the speech. Makes me hope he utterly demolishes Missy and derides her destruction of death [if that is in fact what she is doing].

There has to be some argument about the ethics of him doing so whilst he can regenerate however many times mind.

I always said if I wrote a Doc Who episode it'd be about a deluded scientist (played by Stephen Fry) who kidnaps the Doctor and experiments on him in order to try and manufacture human regeneration. The episode ends with him half-regenerating into a horrible "The Fly" siamese midway between two human beings, with uncontrollable explosive bouts of regeneration energy.
 

Zeppu

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There has to be some argument about the ethics of him doing so whilst he can regenerate however many times mind.

I always said if I wrote a Doc Who episode it'd be about a deluded scientist (played by Stephen Fry) who kidnaps the Doctor and experiments on him in order to try and manufacture human regeneration. The episode ends with him half-regenerating into a horrible "The Fly" siamese midway between two human beings, with uncontrollable explosive bouts of regeneration energy.

The second part of the siamese human must be either Hugh Laurie or Alan Davies. It. Must. Be.
 
There has to be some argument about the ethics of him doing so whilst he can regenerate however many times mind.

I always said if I wrote a Doc Who episode it'd be about a deluded scientist (played by Stephen Fry) who kidnaps the Doctor and experiments on him in order to try and manufacture human regeneration. The episode ends with him half-regenerating into a horrible "The Fly" siamese midway between two human beings, with uncontrollable explosive bouts of regeneration energy.

Being a hypocrite wouldn't make him wrong. It would just make him an asshole.

And I think Capaldi-Doctor has definitely shown that he has few problems with being an asshole.
 
I always said if I wrote a Doc Who episode it'd be about a deluded scientist (played by Stephen Fry) who kidnaps the Doctor and experiments on him in order to try and manufacture human regeneration. The episode ends with him half-regenerating into a horrible "The Fly" siamese midway between two human beings, with uncontrollable explosive bouts of regeneration energy.

This basically already happened, though.
 

thefil

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Is the Flatline speech up anywhere? I like it as much as the Pandorica speech, in a very different way. If only we could hear Hartnell give it, it suits him (except for the "man who stops the monsters" part).

Just heard 10's Pandorica, quite awesome. He really makes it his own.
 
Is the Flatline speech up anywhere? I like it as much as the Pandorica speech, in a very different way. If only we could hear Hartnell give it, it suits him (except for the "man who stops the monsters" part).

Just heard 10's Pandorica, quite awesome. He really makes it his own.

link pls?
 

HowZatOZ

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Have they completely forgotten about the 'Impossible Girl' story arc or is that what this heaven thing is hinting at? Or has she just not "regenerated" because she hasn't been killed again?
 

Platy

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Ewwww...she calls the Doctor her "boyfriend". Maybe that's OK for Time Lords. *shrug*

Maybe she meant as in a friend who is a boy ? =P


...makes sense for timelords to be more ok with it, since for a race that lives for so long they should have LOTS of parents going around ... and time travel only makes it more complicated.


Also, why is SUSAN eww and not ... HIMSELF ?
 

Maddocks

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Part of me wants him to call her the impossible girl sometimes, it seems like he only really called her it once. Why not call her it a couple more times before she leaves?
 

hamchan

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Part of me wants him to call her the impossible girl sometimes, it seems like he only really called her it once. Why not call her it a couple more times before she leaves?

I can already see their eventual farewell scene having an impossible girl reference.
 

Quick

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I can already see their eventual farewell scene having an impossible girl reference.

I'm interested in how their goodbye will play out.

Will it be a bitter end, in that Clara hates the Doctor outright, or does he learn to be a bit more human and have things end off on a high note?
 

Slowdive

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Will it be a bitter end, in that Clara hates the Doctor outright, or does he learn to be a bit more human and have things end off on a high note?

I think if anything, he'll leave her behind for her own good, The Doctor's starting to realize she's turning into him. Moffat said neither of them are goody two shoes in the finale, perhaps she does something really bad and The Doctor eventually leaves her behind, in the finale or Christmas special. I think if she leaves on her own accord it'd be a re-tread of Kill The Moon.
 

Vinci

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I think the speech fell flat to me because, and this sounds like a rationalization, Capaldi's Doctor isn't a speech guy. He doesn't do hugs; he doesn't do speeches. He doesn't care enough about such things . He doesn't have the bombastic personality that the Tenth and Eleven did.

So it felt a bit out of character for him.
 

Ozium

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NuWho needs a Turlough..

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#swag
 

Kud Dukan

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I just watched my first piece of classic (pre-2005) Doctor Who! Decided on a whim to watch Genesis of the Daleks tonight and loved it. Apart from the obvious things, it's aged quite well and I really enjoyed it. Anyone have any recommendations of particular episodes or serials I should check out?
 

Htown

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Well, don't I look the fool. For some weird reason it felt like that was still going on, might be this whole heaven/after death thing going on.

The actual Impossible Girl plotline (aka "how come Clara keeps showing up in all these different places and times even though she has died more than once?") was resolved in "Name of the Doctor."

The "Impossible Girl" mention this season was just in an advertisement that Missy put in the newspaper in the first episode. This is not a reference to the Impossible Girl plot being unresolved, it was just a way for both the Doctor and Clara to know where to meet.

The only thing about Clara's back story that is still unresolved is that she was originally told to contact the Doctor by phone by "a woman in a shop." That woman, apparently, is Missy, who is tied into the whole heaven thing. All we know is that she's somehow tied into this "afterlife", and that she really wants the Doctor and Clara to be together for some reason.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIzyETdOSTA

I imagine this is what he is talking about, but the 10th Doctor's is from an impersonator.

As good as some of those are, discounting the actual real Doctors who did the speech, I always feel a twinge of embarrassment when people impersonate and it's not quite right.

The best impression of any Doctor I've seen is this one for Matt Smith.

If you close your eyes it's pretty much perfect.

http://youtu.be/llJPKvQklzs
 

mclem

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I just watched my first piece of classic (pre-2005) Doctor Who! Decided on a whim to watch Genesis of the Daleks tonight and loved it. Apart from the obvious things, it's aged quite well and I really enjoyed it. Anyone have any recommendations of particular episodes or serials I should check out?

Caves of Androzani is often cited as *the* great story. Also City of Death and Tomb of the Cybermen. Talons of Weng-Chiang is great, but is a bit, uh, awkward in today's society. Pyramids of Mars is another that's highly-regarded.
 

Dryk

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I just watched my first piece of classic (pre-2005) Doctor Who! Decided on a whim to watch Genesis of the Daleks tonight and loved it. Apart from the obvious things, it's aged quite well and I really enjoyed it. Anyone have any recommendations of particular episodes or serials I should check out?
Remembrance of the Daleks
Caves of Androzani
The first episode of An Unearthly Child
The Five Doctors

There are others I could recommend by proxy but I haven't actually seen them so I won't
 
I just watched my first piece of classic (pre-2005) Doctor Who! Decided on a whim to watch Genesis of the Daleks tonight and loved it. Apart from the obvious things, it's aged quite well and I really enjoyed it. Anyone have any recommendations of particular episodes or serials I should check out?

The Ark in Space
Inferno
The Robots of Death
And if you can overlook the silliness of the villain, The Happiness Patrol.
 
For a good grounding, most of these hold up relatively well in terms of story if not always production value. Stories marked with * are the bona fide classics

First Doctor: Unearthly Child, *The Daleks, The Time Meddler, Tenth Planet

Second Doctor: *Tomb of the Cybermen, Ice Warriors, *Web of Fear, The War Games

Third Doctor: *Spearhead from Space, Terror of the Autons, *The Daemons, Day of the Daleks, The Three Doctors, The Green Death, Time Warrior, Death to the Daleks, *Planet of the Spiders

Fourth Doctor: *Ark in Space, *Genesis of the Daleks, *Pyramids of Mars, *Brain of Morbius, *Seeds of Doom, *Deadly Assasin, Robots of Death, *Talons of Weng Chiang, Horror at Fang Rock, Invisible Enemy (warning, this is overly ambitious for the budget and looks terribad in places), Invasion of Time. Pirate Planet, *Stones of Blood, *City of Death, Warrior's Gate (if you want something weird), Logopolis.

Fifth Doctor: *Earthshock, Enlightenment, The Five Doctors, *Caves of Androzani

Sixth Doctor: *Vengeance on Varos, Two Doctors, *Revelation of the Daleks

Seventh Doctor: * Remembrance of the Daleks. Curse of Fenric if you need to have two McCoy stories (most are shash, or overly ambitious and have so much footage cut out that they make little sense).

Some people will say The Romans. Bless them. What a marvellous triumph of the human spirit.
 

Revelation and Rememberance but no Resurrection? That has the best companion exit of the entire classic series.

And I shake my finger at the lack of an asterisk on Robots of Death. The design in that story was so good.

And I'd hesitate to leave Enemy of the World off any comprehensive list of must-watch stories at this point. I love it.
 
Revelation and Rememberance but no Resurrection? That has the best companion exit of the entire classic series.

And I shake my finger at the lack of an asterisk on Robots of Death. The design in that story was so good.

And I'd hesitate to leave Enemy of the World off any comprehensive list of must-watch stories at this point. I love it.

yeah, but gotta draw the line somewhere.
 
I think if anything, he'll leave her behind for her own good, The Doctor's starting to realize she's turning into him. Moffat said neither of them are goody two shoes in the finale, perhaps she does something really bad and The Doctor eventually leaves her behind, in the finale or Christmas special. I think if she leaves on her own accord it'd be a re-tread of Kill The Moon.

I can totally see that happening but it's gonna be an incredibly tricky balance to achieve. Both from the standpoint of the Doctor dumping a companion feeling a bit like a slap in the face to her fans (and slightly hypocritical seeing as he started off the season begging her to stick with him in spite of what he'd become), but also, like with Donna, it has those vaguely sexist connotations of a man deciding what's right for a woman.

I think you need some sort of realisation with Clara herself. Maybe she commits some awful act and just breaks down and forces herself to go cold turkey.
 

Jacobi

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Twelth will be ditching Clara for that old guy who didn't fall for the blank passport (he seems pretty misogynistic, so that's a perfect match).
 

M.Bluth

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I can totally see that happening but it's gonna be an incredibly tricky balance to achieve. Both from the standpoint of the Doctor dumping a companion feeling a bit like a slap in the face to her fans (and slightly hypocritical seeing as he started off the season begging her to stick with him in spite of what he'd become), but also, like with Donna, it has those vaguely sexist connotations of a man deciding what's right for a woman.

I think you need some sort of realisation with Clara herself. Maybe she commits some awful act and just breaks down and forces herself to go cold turkey.

They could have them discuss it and come to a mutual agreement, I guess
 
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