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[WordAssassin]

So I finally bit the bullet and got the Monoprice 22-inch pen display. It's super nice, build quality is great, and unlike with Cintiqs there are actual recent drivers (May 2016) and it's almost as easy as plug and play. Plugged it in, installed the drivers, and it was ready to use. Took less that 5 minutes to have it up and running.

There's just one enormous problem.

There's some kind of glitch, I don't know if it's with the software or the hardware, but the tablet will register an input from simply hovering the pen over the screen which makes it almost unusable to me. In photoshop, I'll draw a line and in my history it will register 15+ lines to the point where I can't just CTRL-Z and undo it. I have to flip the pen and manually erase every single mistake or change I want which completely fucks my work flow. It also means that things like the eyedropper and selection tools are almost completely unusable, and it sometimes even causes the brush to jump while I'm in mid-stroke so my line goes haywire - and then I can't even just undo it. Infuriating.

I'm going to have to send it back and I'm heartbroken but I'm not interested in sitting around and waiting for them to patch it while I have actual work I need to get done. With the Cintiq at least when my computer decides to register it, it works flawlessly. This registers flawlessly but I can't use it to work for shit. A comic page that should have only taken me a few hours has taken almost 8 and I'm not even done lettering it yet. Absolutely unacceptable but them's the breaks for a $500 tablet I guess. I've even tried different drivers for other compatible tablets and it still fucks up.

If anyone knows of a fix please let me know, otherwise it's going back ASAP ):

 

[Shogmaster]

If it does that in more than one software, take it back.

You could try older driver if it's available. It sounds like a bad driver.

 

[WordAssassin]

If it does that in more than one software, take it back.

You could try older driver if it's available. It sounds like a bad driver.

I tried this just now and I was SO EXCITED because it looked like it was working. Brush wasn't registering extra marks, I could actually use the selection tool, then I started to actually draw and everything went to shit again jumping around and registering extra marks.

sigh ):

 

[eyeball_kid]

Procreate positively DESTROYS Adobe Sketch and all other raster apps on iOS. Obliterates it. I would go so far as to say if you own an iPad Pro and not get Procreate for it, you should just toss the tablet in the garbage.

I find the UI on Procreate horrible. Also with more complicated brushes it has some noticeable latency. But in terms of naturalistic drawing, yeah it's pretty nice.

Honestly most of the time for doing layout sketches and whatnot I just use the Notes app. Latency feels so good and the UI is straightforward. And since Notes is available on my other iOS devices and the Mac, sketches are easily available via iCloud without having to do any export/import steps.

The iPad Pro + Pencil has been a gamechanger for me. I've used Wacom tablets for years, but the versatility, portability, and the direct surface drawing has made it my go-to. I hardly use my Moleskines anymore.

 

[Shogmaster]

I find the UI on Procreate horrible. Also with more complicated brushes it has some noticeable latency. But in terms of naturalistic drawing, yeah it's pretty nice.

Honestly most of the time for doing layout sketches and whatnot I just use the Notes app. Latency feels so good and the UI is straightforward. And since Notes is available on my other iOS devices and the Mac, sketches are easily available via iCloud without having to do any export/import steps.

The iPad Pro + Pencil has been a gamechanger for me. I've used Wacom tablets for years, but the versatility, portability, and the direct surface drawing has made it my go-to. I hardly use my Moleskines anymore.

Notes app has low latency because the brushes are kept small in pixel size and simple in complexity. This level of brush sophistication is super easy to keep low latency and even ancient Tablet PC running say single core Dothan Pentium M at 1.6GHz back in 2006 would have done fine with.

The key is to have low latency in complex large brushes. The level of brush sophistication in Procreate is the minimal I would say as useful to art student or professional. Then afterwards you have to move up to Windows tablets running Core processors to get more sophisticated brushes on bigger canvas..

 

[Krauser Kat]

Does the Thinkpad 11E have wacom?

its 350 for amazon primeday

https://amzn.com/B014LQHW4A

 

[Shogmaster]

Does the Thinkpad 11E have wacom?

its 350 for amazon primeday

https://amzn.com/B014LQHW4A

I'm somewhat sure it's pen enabled, but not what kind of pen. I think it's Wacom AES. Don't quote me on any of this.

I really can't recommend it though, even at $350. It weighs over 3 lbs and has 1366x768 resolution screen. Yikes. I think the Miix 700 deal at Microcenter.com for $400 is a much better deal.

For $50 more, you get a more efficient (6th gen) and faster CPU (turbo up to 2.2GHz), bigger (12") and way better resolution screen (2160x1440), much more portable (less than 3 lbs with KB, 1.7lbs for tablet by itself). You do give up SSD size, but Miix 700's M.2 is accessible and replaceable.

 

[Futureman]

Shog, you have me super interested in the Miix 700. I currently have a SP4 Core m3. My only complaint really is the pen gets very shaky when drawing slowly in Photoshop. The Wacom pen + Miix would give me smoother lines? N-Trig is known to have issues with this.

Looks like Amazon has the Core m5/8GB RAM/256 SSD Miix for $695. Pretty sure I could easily sell my SP4 for that much and do a straight trade essentially (SP4 is $900 new). This would be a power upgrade coming from my SP4 m3/4GB RAM/128 SSD. Only thing I'm worried about is Microsoft has had awesome customer support for me when I've had issues while I would be weary about Lenovo.

Anything else I should know regarding differences between SP4 and Miix 700? SSD speeds?

 

[Shogmaster]

Shog, you have me super interested in the Miix 700. I currently have a SP4 Core m3. My only complaint really is the pen gets very shaky when drawing slowly in Photoshop. The Wacom pen + Miix would give me smoother lines? N-Trig is known to have issues with this.

Looks like Amazon has the Core m5/8GB RAM/256 SSD Miix for $695. Pretty sure I could easily sell my SP4 for that much and do a straight trade essentially (SP4 is $900 new). This would be a power upgrade coming from my SP4 m3/4GB RAM/128 SSD. Only thing I'm worried about is Microsoft has had awesome customer support for me when I've had issues while I would be weary about Lenovo.

Anything else I should know regarding differences between SP4 and Miix 700? SSD speeds?

Wacom AES has same slow line jitter issue as N-Trig and other Projected Capacitive active digitizers (Atmel, Synaptics,etc...). This is due to high sampling rate and low resolution of digitizer grid.

Wacom EMR (Cintiqs, older Tablet PCs) has noticeably less jitter with very slow lines, but they also do have it. EMR's advantage is much higher digitizer grid.

This might sound not very helpful, but you need to learn to make faster strokes. Very slow strokes only kinda work in the analog world, and even then it's a bad habit. In digitial, making slow strokes makes 0 sense because you have undo on your side. On paper, you can argue that slow is better so you don't make a unrecoverable mistake, but you can always undo and try again with digital. You'll find making fast stroke in attempt to nail that line gesture you desire and retrying to be much more efficient than doing methodical slow stroke attampt to nail it the first time.

As for Miix 700 vs SP4, if you already have a SP4, Miix 700 is not meant for you. Miix 700's biggest appeal is the bargain price compared to SP4. Also, Miix 700's Wacom pen has much lighter "touch" or initial insertion force than N-Trig pens. You can really feel the difference. Also, Wacom gets much better software pressure support than N-Trig.

SP4 will destroy Miix 700 in things like SSD speeds (NVMe vs SATA III), although the M3 SP also only has SATA III SSD. But Miix 700 is a much more straight forward device, and never had the crazy amount of software bugs that ailed the SP4. It's pretty damn nice device.

 

[Laranja]

Hi guys!

I'm currently looking for a tablet to draw and paint, but I have a few questions and figured this would be the place to ask. I'm mostly set on the iPad Pro 9.7 + Apple Pencil, since it seems like the most reliable option, but I need to know some things first:

1. What's the best app for sketching and painting? Does it allow me to export whatever I create as an uncompressed, editable file? (I'm a bit reluctant about creating content on the iOS ecosystem, since it's so closed...)
2. Are the Adobe apps (namely Illustrator Draw and Photoshop Sketch) any good? I've a Creative Cloud subscription, so I get those for "free."
3. Are there any things you think I should know/options you think I should consider?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Shogmaster]

Hi guys!

I'm currently looking for a tablet to draw and paint, but I have a few questions and figured this would be the place to ask. I'm mostly set on the iPad Pro 9.7 + Apple Pencil, since it seems like the most reliable option, but I need to know some things first:

1. What's the best app for sketching and painting? Does it allow me to export whatever I create as an uncompressed, editable file? (I'm a bit reluctant about creating content on the iOS ecosystem, since it's so closed...)
2. Are the Adobe apps (namely Illustrator Draw and Photoshop Sketch) any good? I've a Creative Cloud subscription, so I get those for "free."
3. Are there any things you think I should know/options you think I should consider?

Thanks in advance!

1. Procreate is the best on iOS. $6. Get it. It should have .PSD support.
2. Abobe iOS apps are a joke.
3. If you dont need to use real Photoshop or Illustrator and dont mind nit having access to a real file sysyem, stay with the iPad Pro. Otherwise Miix 700 is a killer portable art tablet for the price (less than iPad Pro).

 

[Laranja]

1. Procreate is the best on iOS. $6. Get it. It should have .PSD support.
2. Abobe iOS apps are a joke.
3. If you dont need to use real Photoshop or Illustrator and dont mind nit having access to a real file sysyem, stay with the iPad Pro. Otherwise Miix 700 is a killer portable art tablet for the price (less than iPad Pro).

Cool, thanks for the answers!

Having a "real" file system is really not that important for me, as long as I can manage and export the files I create without too many limitations, so I guess I'll go with the iPad.

 

[jetpacks was yes]

Shogmaster, bless your heart for making this thread. I have a question for you, if you don't mind.

My surface pro 1 has slowly been dying a painful death and it's about time that I replaced it. I have a 4gb i5 model, and it has suited my Photoshop needs. I bought a "like new" refurbished sp2 i5 from amazon warehouse deals during prime day for around $210 to replace it, but I could always return it once it arrives. I've been keen on trying out that Miix 700 since I really want a larger drawing surface and my budget is very low (have baby on the way), but how do you think that $400 m3 from microcenter would compare to my sp1 i5 in terms of Photoshop usage? Would I need to get the $500 one or the $700 Costco miix in order to get comparable power? If so I may as well stick with this sp2 that's coming in the mail soon.

 

[Shogmaster]

Shogmaster, bless your heart for making this thread. I have a question for you, if you don't mind.

My surface pro 1 has slowly been dying a painful death and it's about time that I replaced it. I have a 4gb i5 model, and it has suited my Photoshop needs. I bought a "like new" refurbished sp2 i5 from amazon warehouse deals during prime day for around $210 to replace it, but I could always return it once it arrives. I've been keen on trying out that Miix 700 since I really want a larger drawing surface and my budget is very low (have baby on the way), but how do you think that $400 m3 from microcenter would compare to my sp1 i5 in terms of Photoshop usage? Would I need to get the $500 one or the $700 Costco miix in order to get comparable power? If so I may as well stick with this sp2 that's coming in the mail soon.

SP1 's ULV i5 is pretty old now so the XLV (I made that up) M3-6Y30 should be able to match it pretty closely while making the battery last much longer.

According to Passmark, they are pretty fucking close (only about 1% difference of eachother) in capability:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=816&cmp[]=2631

The only thing you have to get use to is the difference between Wacom EMR of SP1 vs Wacom AES of Miix 700. They will behave ever so slightly differently when making strokes. You just have to adjust.

Pros:
1. AES will not care whether you are in portrait nor landscape. The cursor will be exactly where you point the pen tip. Don't even bother to calibrate.
2. AES will not have the edge drift issues of EMR
3. AES pens uses 1 gram Initial Insertion Force tips. Your SP1 tip may be the old 3 gram tips. Noticeably lighter in soft strokes.

Cons:
1. AES is few notched worse than EMR in very slow stroke jitter. You need to avoid making very slow strokes.
2. AES suffers from more instances of palm rejection errors due to sharing the same digitizer panel for both pen and touch. Just be aware.
3. AES pens usually have a bit shallower hover distance.

Also, Miix 700 won't have the Wacom Wintab driver until August. But if you use Photoshop CC, you will already have full pen pressure. No Wintab needed unless you have CS6 or older PS. This also means no mapping of pen buttons and radial menu until August.

And for the pen, get the new "Wacom Bamboo stylus for selecteed 2 in 1 Windows devices" (that's the goddamn full name of the pen).

 

[jetpacks was yes]

Awesome, thanks so much!

 

[jetpacks was yes]

Ok just got the $400 miix 700 from microcenter and I love the form factor. So light yet still much bigger than the sp1/2. Pass mark scores are lower than my sp1, though, so I'm not sure if I should just stick with the cheap $200 sp2 until I can afford a much bigger upgrade in a year or so. Will spend some more time with it and see which one to keep.

 

[Amiibro]

would the Miix 700 be fine for Clip Paint Studio?? I bought that software when it was on sale for my Mac, looking for an actual drawing tablet. the price vs an iPad Pro is pretty huge Im willing to give it a try.

also is there anywhere I can order that 2 in 1 Wacom Bamboo pen besides the Wacom website? i can't seem to find it anywhere

 

[Shogmaster]

would the Miix 700 be fine for Clip Paint Studio?? I bought that software when it was on sale for my Mac, looking for an actual drawing tablet. the price vs an iPad Pro is pretty huge Im willing to give it a try.

also is there anywhere I can order that 2 in 1 Wacom Bamboo pen besides the Wacom website? i can't seem to find it anywhere

CSP runs great on my Miix 700. The difference between Miix 700 and something like the Inspiron 15 7568 with Core i7 is that 7568 lets you use much bigger brushes without lag, but Miix 700 still let's me use 30 pixel brushes on 5000x3000 canvas at pretty much full speed.

I don't know where else they sell the Bamboo AES. Did you try Amazon?

 

[Amiibro]

CSP runs great on my Miix 700. The difference between Miix 700 and something like the Inspiron 15 7568 with Core i7 is that 7568 lets you use much bigger brushes without lag, but Miix 700 still let's me use 30 pixel brushes on 5000x3000 canvas at pretty much full speed.

I don't know where else they sell the Bamboo AES. Did you try Amazon?

Yeah I couldn't find it there just the one for the Samsung devices. I thinking about getting a Miix 700 this weekend. The $399 one. I'm just starting out in digital drawing I'm just worried it won't run well but I defiantly feel better after reading your posts here. I wouldn't do much else on it but read manga. Do you think it would run Minecraft? Or my Huion 610 pro if I wanted to switch and and fourth. I thought I read something about the USB only supporting certain things

Looking for a pen is beyond frustrating. The only ones I can find in stock at like Best Buy is the ones for the Samsung note devices. I don't think I'm gonna get this thing if I can't find a pen local that works in case I don't like it and need to return it.

 

[Shogmaster]

Yeah I couldn't find it there just the one for the Samsung devices. I thinking about getting a Miix 700 this weekend. The $399 one. I'm just starting out in digital drawing I'm just worried it won't run well but I defiantly feel better after reading your posts here. I wouldn't do much else on it but read manga. Do you think it would run Minecraft? Or my Huion 610 pro if I wanted to switch and and fourth. I thought I read something about the USB only supporting certain things

Looking for a pen is beyond frustrating. The only ones I can find in stock at like Best Buy is the ones for the Samsung note devices. I don't think I'm gonna get this thing if I can't find a pen local that works in case I don't like it and need to return it.

I think it would run Minecraft at 1080x720 well enough if that wacky res is supported. Otherwise you would have to play at slightly blurry 1024x768 or something.

If you are looking for an AES pen at retail to have immediate satisfaction, I think you'd be out of luck. You can find Dell AES pen on eBay for around $20 bucks and if the seller is cool, you could have it pretty fast I suppose:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GENUINE...381399?hash=item25be6998d7:g:IroAAOSwGIRXZKj4

As with above item, search under "Dell Active pen 5055".

BTW, I have a video of my Miix 700 running CSP with pretty big res and brush (5000x3000 with 50 pixel brush). It's Core M5, but M3 should be similar in responsiveness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn1yqng6aEI

 

[Amiibro]

I think it would run Minecraft at 1080x720 well enough if that wacky res is supported. Otherwise you would have to play at slightly blurry 1024x768 or something.

If you are looking for an AES pen at retail to have immediate satisfaction, I think you'd be out of luck. You can find Dell AES pen on eBay for around $20 bucks and if the seller is cool, you could have it pretty fast I suppose:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GENUINE...381399?hash=item25be6998d7:g:IroAAOSwGIRXZKj4

As with above item, search under "Dell Active pen 5055".

BTW, I have a video of my Miix 700 running CSP with pretty big res and brush (5000x3000 with 50 pixel brush). It's Core M5, but M3 should be similar in responsiveness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn1yqng6aEI

Video is awesome it makes me want one but since the pens are so hard to find worries me. Guess I'll think about it today.

 

[jetpacks was yes]

Won't this pen work?

Lenovo Active Capacitive Pen(GX80K32882) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AZC3HF2/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[Shogmaster]

Won't this pen work?

Lenovo Active Capacitive Pen(GX80K32882) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AZC3HF2/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Yes.

 

[jetpacks was yes]

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-in...&acampID=8ac60e1a51bb11e6b213cedd434cefcf0INT


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-in...&skuId=5216702&productCategoryId=abcat0502000


$500 after edu discount! But are these the inspirons with wacom aes?

 

[Shogmaster]

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-in...&acampID=8ac60e1a51bb11e6b213cedd434cefcf0INT


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-in...&skuId=5216702&productCategoryId=abcat0502000


$500 after edu discount! But are these the inspirons with wacom aes?

Neither are AES. Only Inspiron AES model is 1080p 7568.

 

[onadesertedisland]

Top end Miix 700 for $599. http://www.adorama.com/le80ql000bus.html?sdtid=8967347&emailprice=t

 

[Shogmaster]

Top end Miix 700 for $599. http://www.adorama.com/le80ql000bus.html?sdtid=8967347&emailprice=t

This is one ridiculous deal! Anyone remotely interested in art tablet should jump on this deal.

The Core m7 in this thing benches better than last gen Core i5 5200U:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2641&cmp[]=2440

And with the new Wacom Wintab driver dropping in on the 2nd of August, Miix 700 will be top of the class Windows art tablet.

Don't forget to order the Wacom Bamboo Smart pen for it:

https://us-store.wacom.com/Catalog/Stylus/Bamboo/Bamboo-Smart-for-select-tablets-and-2in1-S01

 

[onadesertedisland]

Yeah I'm bummed as I bought an m5 8gb Miix for 640 this past week :-( Oh, well. I dig the system. But, the Dell stylus I got is shitty, going to return it. Have a Wacom pen on the way.

 

[Ran rp]

This is one ridiculous deal! Anyone remotely interested in art tablet should jump on this deal.

The Core m7 in this thing benches better than last gen Core i5 5200U:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2641&cmp[]=2440

And with the new Wacom Wintab driver dropping in on the 2nd of August, Miix 700 will be top of the class Windows art tablet.

Would this be compatible with that new Wacom/Microsoft pen?

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Any review on the surface book? Also, any pen you recommend for surface pro 1?

 

[Shogmaster]

Would this be compatible with that new Wacom/Microsoft pen?

Should be. But the current pen is so good, I wouldn't even worry about it.

 

[Shogmaster]

Any review on the surface book? Also, any pen you recommend for surface pro 1?

hundreds of SB reviews out there. Take your pick, but I'd suggest sticking with my buddy Surface Pro Artist's reviews. Don't remember if he did SB specifically.

As for SP1, any decent UD frequency pens with two side buttons would be fine. You can find the Fujitsu ones on eBay for cheap (~$20)

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

hundreds of SB reviews out there. Take your pick, but I'd suggest sticking with my buddy Surface Pro Artist's reviews. Don't remember if he did SB specifically.

As for SP1, any decent UD frequency pens with two side buttons would be fine. You can find the Fujitsu ones on eBay for cheap (~$20)

Do you think a Fujitsu one is better than the stock surface one?

 

[jiggle]

How do u install photoshop into that miix 700?
No disc drive?

 

[Shogmaster]

Do you think a Fujitsu one is better than the stock surface one?

Stock SP1 pen only has 1 side button so yeah.

How do u install photoshop into that miix 700?
No disc drive?

How old is your copy of Photoshop? You can find trial install file of your keycode version online easily.

BTW, you really should just get PS CC. CS6 and older started acting weird with the new Wacom drivers such as random pressure cut out every few strokes. Almost as if Adobe paid Wacom to fuck up the driver for older versions...

 

[jiggle]

How old is your copy of Photoshop? You can find trial install file of your keycode version online easily.

BTW, you really should just get PS CC. CS6 and older started acting weird with the new Wacom drivers such as random pressure cut out every few strokes. Almost as if Adobe paid Wacom to fuck up the driver for older versions...

Quite old. CS8.0 I think

You can find trial install file of your keycode version online easily.
.

U mean like download from non official site and enter the code?

Would an usb dvd drive work also?

 

[Shogmaster]

Quite old. CS8.0 I think

I don't think CS (8.0) is worth trying to install on your computer in 2016 tbh.

U mean like download from non official site and enter the code?

Would an usb dvd drive work also?

Yes and yes.

 

[onadesertedisland]

Just got my Wacom 2-in-1 stylus. Holy crap what a difference. That Dell stylus is a POS.

 

[Shogmaster]

Just got my Wacom 2-in-1 stylus. Holy crap what a difference. That Dell stylus is a POS.

Very nice... Im willing to bet that Dell one was previously used and the tip was all likely damaged due to dropping tip first.

 

[Elcheris]

So I'm looking for a tablet that can be used as a work-station on the go for game development. I currently work mostly in 2d but I may delve into 3d in the future. Originally I was looking at the SP4 with an i7 but this deal of the lenovo miix has me intrigued. Does anyone have any thoughts on if the Miix 700 would be able to work decently with 3d software? I should mention I mostly use Unity for game dev.

 

[Shogmaster]

So I'm looking for a tablet that can be used as a work-station on the go for game development. I currently work mostly in 2d but I may delve into 3d in the future. Originally I was looking at the SP4 with an i7 but this deal of the lenovo miix has me intrigued. Does anyone have any thoughts on if the Miix 700 would be able to work decently with 3d software? I should mention I mostly use Unity for game dev.

Miix 700 and SP4 are dual core 6th gen Intel Core CPU machines with built in low voltage GPUs. They both have similar turbo clockceiling and would behave about the same for say modeling, but quite differently for rendering animations or scenes that would tax the CPU and GPU for constant and extended time periods since Miix 700 has no active cooling and will throttle the CPU and GPU down way earlier than the Core i5/i7 in SP4.

 

[Shogmaster]

Even though the costco.com. adorama.com, and microcenter.com deal are now over, summer of Miix 700 deal continues:

This time, it's B and H video. They are selling the mid range Core M5-6Y54 with 4GB of RAM and 128GB SSD for $399.99

This is the best price I've seen for the M5 version, and matches the lowest price for Miix 700 period!

And tomorrow (8/2/16), is the release date of the new Wacom Wintab driver, which will include Miix 700 support. Now you will have access to mapping the barrel buttons on the pen with things like undo or the radial menu, and full pressure support on old legacy art software.

As always with Wacom AES devices, get the new Wacom Bamboo Smart pen for selected 2 in 1s for $40.

 

[Shogmaster]

Well that was quick. B and H deal SOLD OUT.

 

[Breads]

While on that B and H site I saw that they were selling refurb Cintiq 27QHDs for $1949.

The caveat was that it was non returnable. Called them up and asked them what it meant. A firm no on buyers remorse and w/e but you can still return/ replace on damage/ defect and the tablet does indeed come with a 2 two year limited warranty from Wacom.

Figured why not and it should be here on monday.

 

[Shogmaster]

While on that B and H site I saw that they were selling refurb Cintiq 27QHDs for $1949.

The caveat was that it was non returnable. Called them up and asked them what it meant. A firm no on buyers remorse and w/e but you can still return/ replace on damage/ defect and the tablet does indeed come with a 2 two year limited warranty from Wacom.

Figured why not and it should be here on monday.

Touch or none touch?

 

[Shogmaster]

Not really a deal, but a news on a new 2 in 1 with pen. Lenovo Ideapad Miix 510:

http://liliputing.com/2016/08/lenovo-miix-510-12-2-inch-2-1-windows-tablet-pen-input-leaks.html

- 12.2" 1920x1200,16:10 (instead of 3:2, 2160x1440 of Miix 700)
- Core i3, i5, i7 (instead of Core M3, M5, M7)
- up to 8GB of RAM, up to 512GB SSD (up to 256GB in Miix 700)
- USB C port
- 39WHr battery (vs 43WHr of Miix 700)
- Active pen 2048 levels (same as Miix 700. Still probably using Elan touch panel with Wacom AES compatibility)

Looks to be using the same chassis as Miix 700, but probably now has venting holes for active cooling. Price for Europe slated around $800ish US. I think this will slot below Miix 700 in MSRP in US.

This is maybe why the Miix 700s are so heavily discounted, but this has several specs that are below Miix 700 and may not be an out and out replacement. Will they live together in the line up? We shall find out in coming weeks.

One thing is for sure. Do not expect 8 hour battery life like on Miix 700. Smaller batter size and more power hungry processors means maybe 5 hours.

 

[Saraluna]

Hello,

I posted here a while back looking for advice on getting a touchscreen laptop, and I finally settled on the 15.6" 2 in 1 convertible Dell Inspiron. As someone who is getting back into digital art after a long hiatus, my last experience with it was with a very old Wacom tablet on a PC, and I'm looking for advice on 1: buying an adjustable tablet stand large enough to accommodate a laptop of that size (the kind of pressure I put on the screen when I'm drawing would be too much for just folding the screen over and standing it up that way) and 2: advice on the best way to make up for the loss of keyboard shortcuts when I have the laptop in tablet mode for drawing. I'm currently working in GIMP, which makes things more difficult, because I haven't had any success configuring pen buttons, but that's a separate issue...I've been using pen swipes but I can't say that I like that solution, as a quick drawing stroke could easily be misread.

 

[Shogmaster]

Hello,

I posted here a while back looking for advice on getting a touchscreen laptop, and I finally settled on the 15.6" 2 in 1 convertible Dell Inspiron. As someone who is getting back into digital art after a long hiatus, my last experience with it was with a very old Wacom tablet on a PC, and I'm looking for advice on 1: buying an adjustable tablet stand large enough to accommodate a laptop of that size (the kind of pressure I put on the screen when I'm drawing would be too much for just folding the screen over and standing it up that way) and 2: advice on the best way to make up for the loss of keyboard shortcuts when I have the laptop in tablet mode for drawing. I'm currently working in GIMP, which makes things more difficult, because I haven't had any success configuring pen buttons, but that's a separate issue...I've been using pen swipes but I can't say that I like that solution, as a quick drawing stroke could easily be misread.

Pen buttons are easily configured by installing the Tablet PC Wintab driver:
http://cdn.wacom.com/u/drivers/TabletPC/ISD_DualTouch_732-12.exe

Also, I highly suggest you investing some money on an app that takes advantage of your Dell properly. Gimp is waste of your Dell. Get Clip Studio Paint:
http://www.clipstudio.net/en

As for angling the Dell, maybe you can get something like this?
http://www.keyboardco.com/laptop-stand/irizer-adjustable-laptop-stand-data-sheet.asp

I'm not advocating exactly that model, since I never seen it of used it, but something like that should do the job.

 

[chepu]

How good is that Miix 700 for graphic design usage? Im looking to gift my GF a new computer for her graduation, shes really good at drawing with her bamboo and is a graphic designer, cant afford much tho so I was looking at 2011-2012 used non retina macbook pros!

She has a chinese manufactured, venezuelan retailed bottom of the barrel el cheapo pc from 2009, so anything could be a update from that (pentium D, gma 950 and 2gb of ram, 5.4k rpm hdd)

So, yay or nay on a Miix 700? im even willing to buy one used too!

will do light after effects for 2d animation, adobe photoshop, illustrator and indesign, lots of manga studio and some blender.

 

[Shogmaster]

Miix 700 should do fine for graphic design after you add a blutooth keyboard since using the attached kb is awkward for shortcuts.

I would recommend the 8GB of RAM model though.