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[Reptars Revenge]

Cancel Halloween.

 

[Vice]

Whiteface?

Yellowface?

There are a lot of complaints every year about sumo, geisha and other "yellowface"-esque costumes.

 

[Hypron]

I have no issue with this. In the other thread we got a number of quotes from Pacific Islanders that found the costume offensive and/or disrespectful. Disney admitted to their mistake and chose to pull the costume to show respect to these people.

And now some of you are getting outraged and are telling Pacific Islanders what they need to be offended about.

 

[PsychBat!]

Honestly, none. That fact people participate in a day that mocks different cultures and religions/beliefs is gross.

So no costumes then?

 

[BocoDragon]

You mean the Polynesians who complained? Because again that's who got them to pull it, people from that culture.

Amplified by a lot of non-Polynesian bandwagon jumpers, no doubt.

But the result is the same, we now have a world where companies will be more shy to try out non-Eurocentric costumes.

A win for culture?

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Now I want to buy it... Must be a rare commodity now.

 

[Brewmont]

If you're a white guy dressing up as a Polynesian, or any other race, then it's racist. Which is a shame because Disney's done a good job on the movie otherwise hiring Polynesian actors and doing research on the culture and all that. Honestly, do you know what blackface is?

I'd ask you the same question. You've just proven yourself to have no clue.

 

[ZackieChan]

None of y'all read the really short article I see. The last thread was all about blaming white folk for speaking for Polynesians.... want to know who Disney listened to?




So hi folks maybe instead of yelling about SJWs you could read the article....

You mean the link to a BuzzFeed article featuring six tweets against the costume?

 

[MrCunningham]

Guys, I came up with a solution.

Where's my paycheck Disney?

If you get rid of the grass skirt thingy, this could make a pretty decent Tron costume. Just need a matching frisbee and helmet.

 

[BronsonLee]

As the ambassador for Hawaii-GAF, I demand you all apologize to me for ruining my culture and/or taking the last BBQ plate

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

Damn those racist 10 year olds who want to mock these cartoon characters by dressing up as them! Racistsssssss! I bet they buy black-eyed peas, too... And eat them!

Well they're kids. They don't know any better. Still those kids need to be taught about that shit. Hell I was introduced to racism and prejudice and stereotyping as concepts at about that age.

 

[Dsyndrome]

If you're a white guy dressing up as a Polynesian, or any other race, then it's racist.

You'd tell your son that he can't dress up as this Disney character because he's white? This isn't fucking black face, no matter how much you're trying to make it out to be.

 

[Currygan]

I wonder if putting an ethnicity warning on these types of costumes would be a solution. There are certainly some Maui kids who would want to dress up - so if Disney could put a warning or label on the box advising about the nature of the costume and who it is intended for, that would prevent an inadvertent racism while letting Maui kids have a strong character they can dress up as for Halloween. Perhaps the leading stores that sell costumes (Walmart etc.) could train their clerks to make sure the costume warning labels are followed strictly, and potentially refuse sale in some cases. This system could be extended to other costumes.

so what you're saying is, sell the costume only to people of a specific race, like the one represented by said costume?
I hope I misunderstood because it sounds like one of the worst ideas imaginable

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Sure are a lot of outraged folks here..hmm.

 

[BocoDragon]

As the ambassador for Hawaii-GAF, I demand you all apologize to me for ruining my culture and/or taking the last BBQ plate

Only when you apologize for pineapple on pizza!

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Was there a massive outcry for the removal from Polynesians or was it more of a couple of folks and Disney decided to play it safe?

That's not to say there aren't legitimate complaints.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

You'd tell your son that he can't dress up as this Disney character because he's white? This isn't fucking black face, no matter how much you're trying to make it out to be.

How is this any different from blackface?

 

[Fj0823]

That's a Damn good Riku on the right

 

[Shaanyboi]

wonder what'll happen with a Black Panther costume

If you see a white kid wearing that costume, make sure you shame them publicly.

 

[Whom_Gods_Annoy]

Boy I tell yah, you have no idea how gross and problematic it would be for me to see a 10 year old Polynesian girl dressed up as Elsa.

 

[Brewmont]

Well they're kids. They don't know any better. Still those kids need to be taught about that shit. Hell I was introduced to racism and prejudice and stereotyping as concepts at about that age.

So dressing up as a specific character is stereoptyping? You do realize that blackface was meant as a way to mock and demean African Americans by exaggerating them into cartoon caricatures. That is not what this costume is doing.

 

[Brianimaniac]

Only when you apologize for pineapple on pizza!

This was invented by a Canadian.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Boy I tell yah, you have no idea how gross and problematic it would be for me to see a 10 year old Polynesian girl dressed up as Elsa.

Would they have white skin?

 

[AlteredBeast]

Well they're kids. They don't know any better. Still those kids need to be taught about that shit. Hell I was introduced to racism and prejudice and stereotyping as concepts at about that age.

You were taught avoidance, it seems. A terrible solution to a very real problem.

White people dressing up in a mammy costume or true blackface with eyes bugging and big red lips = racist.

People of any color, especially children, dressing up as cartoon characters of another race =/= racist. Honestly, do you even know what racism is?

 

[Mental Atrophy]

If you're a white guy dressing up as a Polynesian, or any other race, then it's racist. Which is a shame because Disney's done a good job on the movie otherwise hiring Polynesian actors and doing research on the culture and all that. Honestly, do you know what blackface is?

They're not dressing up as a Polynesian, though. They're dressing up as Maui.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

This was invented by a Canadian.

Then we destroy Canada

 

[Whom_Gods_Annoy]

Would they have white skin?

Blond hair for sure, and probably a pale dress on. Maybe some white glitter as well.

 

[The Faceless Master]

i guess a clear costume with the tattoos on it was just too expensive or hard and they just had to brown it up

 

[KingV]

Maybe it should've been a plastic smock with a picture of the character on it instead.

This is what basically all Halloween costumes were when I was a kid. Just different smocks and different shitty masks.

 

[BocoDragon]

This was invented by a Canadian.

Another mark of shame on that barbaric culture.

 

[BronsonLee]

Only when you apologize for pineapple on pizza!

DON'T PUT THAT SHIT ON US, WE HAVE BETTER IDEAS THAN THAT

This was invented by a Canadian.

Then we destroy Canada

I mean...not a bad idea?

 

[AlteredBeast]

"Inadvertent racism" LOL. Now I have heard it all!

 

[Gordon Shumway]

I have no issue with this. In the other thread we got a number of quotes from Pacific Islanders that found the costume offensive and/or disrespectful. Disney admitted to their mistake and chose to pull the costume to show respect to these people.

And now some of you are getting outraged and are telling Pacific Islanders what they need to be offended about.

It's pretty entertaining, actual..

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

You were taught avoidance, it seems. A terrible solution to a very real problem.

White people dressing up in a mammy costume or true blackface with eyes bugging and big red lips = racist.

People of any color, especially children, dressing up as cartoon characters of another race =/= racist. Honestly, do you even know what racism is?

It looks like you weren't taught anything, an actual real problem.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

None of y'all read the really short article I see. The last thread was all about blaming white folk for speaking for Polynesians.... want to know who Disney listened to?




So hi folks maybe instead of yelling about SJWs you could read the article....

Being an overzealous SJW, and being of the race in question regarding said scenario are not mutually exclusive things though, and don't automatically make said complaints and grievances legitimate.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

i guess a clear costume with the tattoos on it was just too expensive or hard and they just had to brown it up

Yeah but how would you know the character if it didn't have brown skin?

 

[LiquidSolid]

None of y'all read the really short article I see. The last thread was all about blaming white folk for speaking for Polynesians.... want to know who Disney listened to?

So hi folks maybe instead of yelling about SJWs you could read the article....

Pfft, who cares what the brown people think?

It amazes me how so many of the people in this thread think Disney just HAVE to put out a tacky brown skinned costume. Like, what?

They're not dressing up as a Polynesian, though. They're dressing up as Maui.

Maui is a Polynesian demi-god...

 

[Ferrio]

Yeah but how would you know the character if it didn't have brown skin?

I know right, there seems to be some % of clothed threshold I didn't know about!

When the character is 10% clothed and covered in tattoos

 

[BronsonLee]

I thought we all figured out that a clear costume was a stupid fucking idea in the last thread

They should just do some temporary tattoos and be done with it, but the fucker has like eleventy thousand

 

[Dsyndrome]

It looks like you weren't taught anything, an actual real problem.

Well then explain plainly to everyone how exactly this is racist, without saying look it up. This isn't Song of the South.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Maui is a Polynesian demi-god...

He is what WE SAY he is. Look what we did with MLK!

 

[Brewmont]

It looks like you weren't taught anything, an actual real problem.

Nah, you just can't use comprehension skills apparently, no matter how many times we try to explain it to you. Context is difficult for you I see, you simple asshole.

 

[Numb]

I am shocked!

 

[Whom_Gods_Annoy]

Nah, you just can't use comprehension skills apparently, no matter how many times we try to explain it to you. Context is difficult for you I see, you simple asshole.

Cya

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Nah, you just can't use comprehension skills apparently, no matter how many times we try to explain it to you. Context is difficult for you I see, you simple asshole.

Thanks for the laughs..

 

[Lunar15]

As always, I'm extremely conflicted on matters of cultural appropriation. At an initial glance, it always seems silly and there's a lot of reasons to dismiss it. But then if you really think about the concept of commoditizing a culture, it becomes way murkier than it starts out as.

I really lack the understanding needed to form an opinion on it. But hey, if pacific islanders complained about it, I don't see what the harm is in taking it off the market.

 

[commedieu]

Disney caught flack from pacific islanders for the movie already. Which probably helped this decision.

Need to remember that. It's not just sjws. And it was this character specifically.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Nah, you just can't use comprehension skills apparently, no matter how many times we try to explain it to you. Context is difficult for you I see, you simple asshole.

bruh

 

[BronsonLee]

Disney caught flack from pacific islanders for the movie already. Which probably helped this decision.

Need to remember that.

Which tbh is kinda stupid because Disney went to pretty extreme measures to try to keep it 100, to the point of casting that random Polynesian girl as Moana for a goddamn voice role

Also fucking hell this got heavy fast, I'm out

 

[rpmurphy]

As mentioned above, I'm not really pitching the logistics of a new costume, but have you never seen a kid be shirtless for a costume?

I've never seen a little girl be shirtless on Halloween, no.