VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Haven't seen it and this thread certainly hasn't helped. I liked the original but I'm definitely not spending that much time in a theater on a slow paced movie.
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'Blade Runner 2049' Is A Box Office Disaster With Poor $13M Friday
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I've noticed a lot of people got their friends and families to watch the first Blade Runner first, which was a fatal mistake. Most people don't like movies that are older, and that slow paced. I've had multiple convos with people saying they tried watching the original and fell asleep, so they are put off by the new one.
I know several people who are still trying to watch the first one.
I know several people who are still trying to watch the first one.
Yeah but it hasn't been updated since sunday, except for the 32.7 million domestic, which still misses a lot of countries like the UK, Germany, France etc, and it hasn't opened in China, Japan and South Korea (opens this week) yet.
C'mon, what is this mentality? If you liked the original then you'll probably like this as well, this is one of the movie you have to see on the Big Screen it's an experience.
This movie definitely needs financial success which probably won't happen but still, we need more movies like this.
If you liked the original you will like this one.
Its an amazing spectacle in the theatre. Absolutely not to be missed.
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It goes by faster than the original, it has better pacing.
I find these kinds assurances pointless. If somebody is the type to make such reductive statements in the first place, I don't think they're the type to be swayed by good pacing.
They need their whizbang.
Yes and no. Alcon is the one who is eating the shit sandwich for this.
Denis isn't probably going to do Dune anymore, or without some major input from studio. They will be worried about accessibility with him going forward.
Outside of that, he didn't earn his blank check like Nolan or Synder did. But it's not going to really hamper him unless he was planning to do 100mil+ films on the constant. He delivered a great flick, well acted, and critically acclaimed. He already does Oscar caliber films.
I was definitely dissapointed in this movie.
The last act fall apart completely, and felt like it was doing more work to set up a sequel than to offer a satisfying ending.
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After 2h of walking around incredible locations, the last half hour could have had the benny hill song playing in back.
The last act fall apart completely, and felt like it was doing more work to set up a sequel than to offer a satisfying ending.
That badass murder replicant going out like a jobber
no last Wallace scene
teasing a visit off world
Resistance litterally stepping out of the shadows for no good reason
Replicant child still in hiding
After 2h of walking around incredible locations, the last half hour could have had the benny hill song playing in back.
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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=bladerunnersequel.htm
Movie has yet to open in South Korea. I think this movie will be fine in terms of worldwide sales over the next week or two.
Movie has yet to open in South Korea. I think this movie will be fine in terms of worldwide sales over the next week or two.
LegendofDragoonLives
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It is slow and then gets very fast at the end for no apparent reason, but if you enjoyed the original you probably will enjoy this one. It has possibly the best cinematography this year and a fantastic OST, so it's a fun watch in theaters. It's one of the best movies of the year for me.
Yep, last act is a bit all over the place. Still enjoyed it, but most of the movie feels like Ville feeling himself way too much lol and then what you said. Some people were even trying to defend that there's no sequel baiting LOL.. I disagree with jobber part, thought that ended well.
Him finding them offscreen when he took fucking forever todo any detective work of him slowly walking towards places was very jarring though
I honestly don't care that it probably won't happen, but I'll be pissed though if somebody else instead of Denis would direct the movie. Not only because that Denis is a great filmmaker but also that this is his dream project which again makes me excited to see what he'll do with it.
when having someone watch one of the best science fiction movies you can watch is a "fatal mistake" :/
SoRuffShoNuff
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I'm in the same boat. Blade Runner is not a movie I want to sit through in one go. I'll end up searching for something else to occupy my time eventually. It has to be broken up into chunks. I'd end up day dreaming in the theater and wasting my money.
I'm sure it could be great. But I doubt it would compare to what Lynch could have done without meddling, or if Jodorowsky actually got the funds to do it. Dune is very weird and alien, it seems better suited for weird directors.
It should be noted that years ago there was a merely competent Dune mini-series done by SciFi. It wasn't weird, but more or less made up for it by covering a lot of the story.
Sumio Mondo
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It's only "slow paced" in that absorbing detective noir sort of way. The visuals are absolutely amazing. I liked it more than the original.
I think this makes it more likely Denis does James Bond next. He haa confirmed he has met about doing it and it is in the mix of what his next film could be. But he was waiting on the first draft of Dune first.
2049's boxofficr might make him more likely to Bond over Dune if studio gets cold feet on letting him have full control over Dune, Bond is pretty much always a money maker success.
ProtomanNeo
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This is the type of film that just takes a while for its audience to discover it, think Edge of Tomorrow.
VistraNorrez
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That's exactly why it's great. You contemplate what is happening on the screen. There is a ton to digest. Things to see, things to hear, things to consider.
At home I miss this. Someone texts me, someone calls my wife, I need to go to the bathroom, my dog has to go out. Constantly pausing changes the experience. I love being overwhelmed by movies like Blade Runner. It's the most transporting experience there can be.
Visually, it's worth it on a big screen. I understand that a paced film isnt for everyone, but this film's scope is worth it. Can never repeat that experience on a tv.
Shake Appeal
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It's depressing me that people are happily admitting they can't concentrate on one thing for a few hours.
Nappuccino
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The movie flew by for me. There were a few oddly timed scenes (like they occurred at an odd time) but they were beautiful, haunting and essential.
Fancy Clown
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People who think this movie is particularly slow or think that slow is only a detrimental attribute should probably expand their cinematic horizons.
I was pleased that this movie used its length not to overstuff with plot, exposition, and terrible action scenes like the majority of overlong blockbusters but to convey mood and expand the themes and world of the film.
I was pleased that this movie used its length not to overstuff with plot, exposition, and terrible action scenes like the majority of overlong blockbusters but to convey mood and expand the themes and world of the film.
This is what I'm thinking.
You've got a sequel to a film from 35 years ago, with the same cinematography and people are complaining it's too long. How many films have we had like this? I can't immediately think of any, or anything. Probably twice a lifetime opportunity to enjoy this and waaah it's too long.
Endless action films to enjoy and that's the problem... :/
Heckler456
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People calling this movie "slow" are just crazy to me. I went with my sister, who isn't very receptive to truly slow paced movies or TV series, and she was completely glued to the screen the entire time.
More_Badass
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I saw American Assassin. It's almost two hours.
I hope directors learn from 2049 and not from movies like American Assassin
Imp the Dimp
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New movies is slower than the original Blade Runner
Yeah, it's mindboggling.
I mean, I screamed internally at the end of LOTR: TROTK, but it wasn't a running time problem.
When I see that a movie goes over the canonical 90 minutes, I say "good.
Tawney Bomb
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When I went to see this on Saturday night this lady kept asking her husband/boyfriend if the movie was almost over and that started before they introduced Harrison Ford. That aside, I thought the movie itself was great, shame it might not be a success.
Darkangel
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There Will Be Blood is a slow "boring" movie, but I was captivated the entire time due to the excellent performances. 2049 is even slower, but instead of relying on the actors to draw your attention it is more about the visuals. I didn't think the visuals were enough to make up for the glacial pacing.
Deadly Cyclone
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It's fantastic, though.
This is nonsense. It's a fantastic movie that begs to be seen in this theater. Being slow is NOT a flaw.
I know we live in an era of millennials with no attention spans expecting constant action due to super hero movies. But that is not a good thing.
A lot of people don't like movies for the art of them but just want someone on screen pressing a for awesome for them for 90 minutes. It sucks but what can you do.
I used to work at a theater with an IMAX. If only like 10 tickets for a show were sold, they'd cancel it and refund everyone because the cost to run the movie exceeded the revenue of the tickets.
Call them out. That is absolutely not the point of film, and never has been. Film is an art form.
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Bwong, Bwong, Bwong........BWONG BWONG!
Dreams-Visions
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concur.
Doesn't have enough guns and explosions. It isn't call of duty enough
Going to see the movie tonight. Bummer about what it's made monetarily, since it looks good. Personally I don't mind a long movie and have no trouble paying attention to it, but it does make it a lot harder to fit a 3 hour movie into my schedule. We couldn't get that in this weekend at all and can barely do it tonight. With 3 hours there's also drive time, previews, and all that so you're basically giving up an entire night to a movie.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Film is whatever you are looking for. Everyone sees movies for different reasons, and at times sees specific movies depending on the mood they're in. Jesus, I think the B2049 threads this year might all be contenders for having the most pretentious crap read on gaf.
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I mean, I love the 90-minute movie. I think most modern movies, including this one, are bloated and could afford to be slashed back into shape. I wish people would strive for concision.
But if something demands three hours of my attention, I'll give it to it. I'm not even one of those people who frets over what the Internet and smartphones are doing to our brains, but c'mon, people. I'm sure a lot of the people complaining about 2049's running time and "slow pace" are quite happy to play something like Persona 5 in hours-long stretches.
You can go to a movie for whatever reason you want but claiming it is a "flaw" that a movie has a long run time when a story calls for a long run time is embarrassing to even attempt to say with a straight face.
I'm confused: Why would a long runtime affect sales? I've never ever talked to anyone that didn't want to go see a movie due to run-time. It might keep them from buying a second ticket, but I don't think that's as much of an impact on initial sales since reviews are glowing.
I think it's more a problem with unfamiliarity with the IP. A lot of people haven't seen Blade Runner, it's extremely niche despite how much it's referenced. I just don't think audiences were clamoring for another Blade Runner. That said, I have no doubt this movie will at least break even, if not make profit.
I think it's more a problem with unfamiliarity with the IP. A lot of people haven't seen Blade Runner, it's extremely niche despite how much it's referenced. I just don't think audiences were clamoring for another Blade Runner. That said, I have no doubt this movie will at least break even, if not make profit.
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The joke is that harry potter, lord of the rings, etc. Are all long ass films.
Besides the difficulty of convincing audiences to devote that much time to a film, I think the other big reason is that there's less screenings per day due to longer run times. I don't know how true any of this is but it's the general reasoning why long run times are considered detrimental to Box Office performance.
Alternatively:
Less incentive for other filmmakers to construct their art to the same standard as this. Good films being financially successful is something that's good for all parties.
LegendofDragoonLives
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You're right. Franchises like Star Wars, LOTR, Harry Potter definitely suffered from the longer than usual time, right? Avatar barely made its money despite being 160 minutes long, right? That Nolan guy which other than 1 movie in the last decade, everything ranges 2-2.5 hours long. There's no way that his only short movie by his standards is actually the one that sold the least out of all his other long as fuck movies, right? His movies bombed and they weren't appreciated for being long because of it. Right?
I guess people shouldn't criticize K for being the slowest walker in that universe or the pacing being offputting in terms of how most of the movie is and how it ends.
Oh yes, my comment was more about the fact that sometimes I feel that a movie would be more fleshed out with more time. But I get what you mean and agree.
Or binge half season of their loved series.
Jeronimo Jones
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I'd potentially watch this, but I can wait indefinitely. Sounds like they spent way too much for a limited audience.
I have never seen the original (partially because it's older than I am), and this one is apparently more than 2 hrs long, so I wouldn't ask my wife to sit through it based only off of GAF hype.
I have never seen the original (partially because it's older than I am), and this one is apparently more than 2 hrs long, so I wouldn't ask my wife to sit through it based only off of GAF hype.
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