It make sense that Hulk would only achieve his full potential in a team film. As a mindless force of nature, he's interesting but only for a while. Plots focused on capturing him can sustain a Hulk movie, but not one that gets the most out of the monster because his beating the hell out of everyone quickly grows repetitious and loses effectiveness. With just a little agency, however, Hulk becomes a superhero, and Hulk as a superhero is a whole different beast. Watching him use his strength in ways that require not only thought but limited emotion on this level pretty much negates even Ang Lee's film (much as I like it) because why would you ever want to go back? Bane will probably prove plenty interesting later this summer, but I'm putting The Hulk down now as mainstream character of the year.
Every Marvel movie has suffered from a lacklusting "final battle" which ends up being not very epic. They were all better movies in the first act establishing who they are as people.
Captain America's better as a character than a superhero, which is part of why it doesn't really matter what his costume looks like. The best compliment I can offer him is that he nears Christopher Reeve's magical ability to make being a virtuous nerd look appealing. The Avengers uses and honors the groundwork laid by his film but offers the character little forward progression. Physically, he's still the bland puncher we remember but much cooler since the action scenes are better executed. Plus, he uses the shit out of his shield.
But let's not fuck around. This is The Hulk's movie. Even if the rest of the film were mediocre, it would still be special for its Hulk. His moments aren't just great; they're absolutely rousing. That bit in the trailer where he saves Iron Man is nothing. The Hulk is why you need to see this movie as soon as you possibly can before people spoil all his big moments. He also may be the key element that keeps The Avengers from ephemera. I want to watch this movie again as soon as I possibly can, and all I'm thinking about in the meantime is The Hulk.
Hulk is my favourite Avenger, so okay.
Hulk's the best part of EMH.
So what trailers are attached to the UK version of Avengers? Does anyone know?
I'll let you know tomorrow, if no-one does before me.
Seriously, if they make another hulk movie they really need to look at that as inspiration. Hulk needs to be a snarky asshole not a mindless brooding monster.
Giving him a couple good supporting characters to bounce off of and we would be golden.
And the hotly anticipated actioner is already shattering box office records overseas. It earned in U.S. dollar estimates of $6.0M in Australia and $1.2M in Taiwan and $700K in New Zealand for almost $8M from the three countries on Wednesday. Two of the nations, Australia and New Zealand were holidays: ANZAC Day, so that helped boost box office. Australias opening day is the second-highest opening of all time there behind only the final Harry Potter (A$7M). It is also the highest Marvel opening day ever, 214% ahead of Iron Man 2 (A$1.8M Thursday opening) and 136% ahead of The Dark Knight (A$2.5M Thursday opening), and the highest Disney opening day ever for a Disney film. The pic playing in Taiwan is the biggest industry Wednesday opening ever, the biggest opening day of 2012 (173% above Battleship) and the second-biggest opening day for any Marvel film (after only Spider-Man 3). In New Zealand, pic scored a higher opening than The Dark Knight and Iron Man 2.
You think Disney is just really good at marketing?
Can't wait for Plainview's review. If he loves it, guaranteed I hate it. If he doesn't like it, I probably will.
Fuck I couldn't bring myself to predict the Box Office of this because of the international. Never seemed like world wide people were interested in the super heroes like they were with the Pirates movies etc. You think Disney is just really good at marketing?
They will make a Hulk movie like if it was a super hero movie .... a GOOD hulk movie must work as a Godzilla type movie =P
What would be a perfect excuse to show another marvel hero =P
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Wait .. so ... the middle credits scene was the only credits scene ?
Monday night
If it's anything like Captain America, it will be glorious.
I saw your poster and raised it with this:
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You must have not seen the same thing posted like 20 posts after it. ;)
You must have not seen the same thing posted like 20 posts after it.
Recent events would suggest otherwise.
One thing I can say, given that I waited to see the post-credits scenes all the times I went to watch both Thor and Captain America (and it's more than I'd be willing to admit), literally everyone stayed to see it, and people cheered the Avengers trailer on Captain America which is something I have rarely seen here. People have been looking forward to this movie for a very long time.
Thor was fairly succesful overseas, it's only Captain America (rather unsurprisingly) who wasn't. You shouldn't have doubted The Avengers would do really good numbers.
Hulk will talk about it once he gets back from his vacation.
Lava bath tickle Hulk.So .. he is relaxing in a pool of lava ?
HULK is RELAXING in a pool of LAVA ?
HULK RELAXING in LAVA ?????
my brain .... it HURT !