AHA-Lambda
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Surely that's not the case anymore otherwise the game would have been announced as multi platform day one? Unless Sony and MS already knew :/
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Michel Ancel and Rayman dev team show up at fan(?) protest RE: Rayman Legends delay
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Surely that's not the case anymore otherwise the game would have been announced as multi platform day one? Unless Sony and MS already knew :/
clay_ghost
Member
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ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Yes. Adding to what Nirolak said, I believe a late port on 360 can be done if it has exclusive content (Cross Edge), but that only happened once or twice only I think.
So it's either release Wii U version now and add exclusive content on the PS3/360 versions later or delay the Wii U version and release them simultaneously. The latter one is cheaper to do I believe.
It's in Microsoft's right to refuse the title, it doesn't mean that they will.
Funny about Ubisoft since they published Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, which was a timed PS3 exclusive with no difference in content to the 360.
Doesn't RE has some additional stuff like missions etc. on the 360/PS3?
Well the game's leak said "Wii U version", so presumably it was planned as multiplatform for quite some time.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
This stunt by Ubisoft is actually potentially bad for the Rayman brand and its future. The creator of Rayman would be remiss to not criticize Ubisoft execs.
First Ubisoft sent Rayman Origins out to nearly die during the christmas crunch, priced at $60 as a retail game.
Now they trash the release of an elaborate sequel - Legends was going to fill a starvation gap in the launch window of a new console, would have had no competition, and was a fairly anticipated release.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
The term is corporate ball-washing - quite a popular sport these days.
I think some folks see their jobs as more creative than pure business and want the satisfaction of seeing their work in other's hands. Perhaps its vanity or undue pride in others, I don't know. But your way of thinking would definitely ensure you don't get burned out or really emotionally invested which could be seen as a good thing.
michaelius
Banned
That's either very brave or stupid or both.
Anyway impressive.
Anyway impressive.
Or they could have waited to work out the port deal until after the WiiU version was out. Surely they were more than aware of that stipulation.
Right.
2 Slice Toaster
Member
Are there really that many publishers just dying to fund a development team that has shown no reservation to repeatedly publicly air grievances about internal business decisions?
I'm not disputing they shouldn't be hacked off about the decision, but I do question whether it is worth compromising their professional reputation over it.
It is LONG PAST time. Do it. Do it. (Actually, do at LEAST 2 in Europe, and at least 3-4 more in America.)
Calamari41
41 > 38
No bosses in my situation aside from the customers. Your choice of "cut your legs" is interesting though, quite emotive. If an employee is paid to deliver a product, what difference does it make to them what is done with the product when they're finished with it?
Again, I could understand it if it was never coming out (especially as they'd lose their credits on the title), but obviously that's not the case here.
I guess I'm just built a little differently. I would be frustrated by the long hours, but my work in this case wouldn't be pointless. Plus I'd be expecting some well deserved time off.
These are artists who actually care about their project. They are proud of it and want people to enjoy it. They're not sitting on an assembly line screwing two pieces of metal together to eventually form a stapler or something.
Well, mobiclip Paris offices became somewhat a software R&D center for Nintendo. But it's more for applications, not games.
It's pretty fucking disgusting. I always say that "gamers" get exactly what they deserve, and this is why. The insane fandom and callousness towards actual creatives extends far beyond the Valve/Nintendo/Blizzard zealots.
Fast-forward a day: "Ubisoft cancels Beyond Good & Evil 2".
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Nintendo, hire these people and put them on NSMB or better yet a new 2D IP!
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Help me understand, but why is their spot so tight? What hard decisions do they need to make? Do they care? I doubt it.
Is this true???digusting MS is disgusting....and Ubisoft just showed who they really prefer, it seems. I wonder if Nintendo actually had something like this we would even see AAA third party games...
lol
I'm sorry, Mr. Successful Businessman. It wasn't my intention to get in the way of your anti-consumer, anti-labor rights agenda.
I'm guessing Ancel's tired of his job or something. I still wouldn't let a talent like him get away if I could help it.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Wow, that didn't take long for MS to get all high and mighty.
Zoramon089
Banned
Just WiiU owners being self entitled brats am I right guys?
AgentOtaku
Member
ooooh shit!
Bravo!
Bravo!
kitchenmotors
Banned
Baconsammy finally getting CLOCKED. Bout time his weaves were pulled.
It's fairly obvious to me that Ubisoft seems to have it out for Ancel.
They 1) release Beyond Good & Evil during Christmas, 2) release Rayman Origins against its own AC: Revelations and now 3) push back the release of Rayman Legends to end up competing against GTAV.
I don't mind that Ubisoft wants to do a multiplatform release of Rayman Legends (I don't have a Wii U), but if the game is done, it's done. The Wii U owners should be able to get the game as the original release date suggested.
They 1) release Beyond Good & Evil during Christmas, 2) release Rayman Origins against its own AC: Revelations and now 3) push back the release of Rayman Legends to end up competing against GTAV.
I don't mind that Ubisoft wants to do a multiplatform release of Rayman Legends (I don't have a Wii U), but if the game is done, it's done. The Wii U owners should be able to get the game as the original release date suggested.
Graphics Horse
Member
They should just release it digitally only for now, problem mostly solved.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Cmon now. It's about managing your employees. Nobody wants a scene that has an employee publicly calling the business' motives out like that. It's not anti-consumer. What the heck is with you Rayman people?
Spieler Eins
Member
But their best games were in 3D.
Haunted
Member
Hahaha! I hope you don't run a company.
I'd say its pretty shitty for a company to expect their employees to work nights and weekends to meet a deadline only to say. "Thanks, btw we're not shipping it for another 7 months"
Psychotext
Member
People are going to enjoy it - they'll just be enjoying it in a few months. It's really about perspective.
(Just so I'm clear here, I think Ubisoft made the wrong decision in a big, big way... but this protest wont change anything.)
its a good job you arent a CEO then
It's not just the dev team, Michel Ancel (head of the studio) is there with them. They're insanely talented people, they'd be better off Ubi actually.
Glorified G
Member
Especially if they already get paid. Why risk burning bridges?
Calamari41
41 > 38
If you were actually a good manager/CEO, you wouldn't let it get to the point where one of your brightest star employees is publicly calling you out
this is uncalled for. If Ubisoft wants to maximize marketing effectiveness and hype by combining the releases, its a harsh, but solid call. the team needs to stop acting like a child not getting their candy. They got paid, they delivered the game to ubisoft. They are out of line, and should be thankful if they still have a job at Ubisoft when this blows over.
Though it seems apparent that Ubisoft doesn't feel the Wii U's userbase is sufficient to make their investment in the game worthwhile, pushing its release off for months of porting is pure sunk costs fallacy. 360 and PS3 owners will reject it outright and they'll lose even more money than if they'd simply sent it out to retail now.