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VIDEO: Bikers attack Range Rover driver after he drives over them during a rally(NY)
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Haha, you should be in marketing, great ad
edit: Hmm, that sounded like I was being really sarcastic but I actually wasn't for once.
I would bet cash money that they were riding like dicks, the RR driver probably honked at them, and then he became their target.
YosemiteHam
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from what I'm gathering, these bikers were chuckleheaded morons and deserve everything they had coming to them.
This appears to be the original cameraman.
https://www.youtube.com/user/Michelinman900
has 40+ videos of these rides for the past 2 years. Strangely only has 1 video from this years event though he recorded tons of illegal activity in the others
https://www.youtube.com/user/Michelinman900
has 40+ videos of these rides for the past 2 years. Strangely only has 1 video from this years event though he recorded tons of illegal activity in the others
I'm not saying the man in the Range Rover is justified but I would be scared out of my damned mind if I was surrounded by a gang after being aggressively stopped on the road like that.
I don't think I would have slammed on the gas though it's hard to tell in a fight or flight situation like that.
I don't know if the RR driver is justified but, ENTIRELY going off of the start of that video, the motocycle gang were not.
I don't think I would have slammed on the gas though it's hard to tell in a fight or flight situation like that.
I don't know if the RR driver is justified but, ENTIRELY going off of the start of that video, the motocycle gang were not.
If you listen closely you can hear honking and see the range rover advancing slowly then he guns it as based on what's been reported they began assaulting the vehicle leading to him needing to escape.
Later when the white van is involved you can see they forced the white van to stop and its trying to get away so they should have attempted kidnapping or carjacking charges tacked on for what they tried to do there
Hardly excuses running over people, could have possibly killed people.
Beats being killed.
Seriously, the bikers werent thinking at all and seem to really have got into the mob mentality thinking they could do whatever they wanted
kyoya
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Just watched the other videos on Liveleak - these guys are dumbasses. They all decide to gather on MeetUp supposedly? One decides to record their antics in glorious HD, post it on a public YouTube channel which is all traceable and think that nothing is going to happen?
I love technology sometimes, cheap and plentiful - beats a grainy bank camera from the 1980 or 1990's any day. Some people hate cameras and complain about privacy, this kind of shit is hopefully going to lead to prosecution - prevent future accidents on the road from happening. One nervous cab driver or tourist passing through could have slammed on the breaks and you would have had another catastrophe.
All I can think of is what his little girl saw, she must have been traumatized also - having those guys almost smash her passenger side window.
I love technology sometimes, cheap and plentiful - beats a grainy bank camera from the 1980 or 1990's any day. Some people hate cameras and complain about privacy, this kind of shit is hopefully going to lead to prosecution - prevent future accidents on the road from happening. One nervous cab driver or tourist passing through could have slammed on the breaks and you would have had another catastrophe.
All I can think of is what his little girl saw, she must have been traumatized also - having those guys almost smash her passenger side window.
Smiles and Cries
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WTF I've seen these clubs around but was never sure there was that many of them on nice summer days all over NY and CT
Wouldn't you? I would. Immediately after the incident started (and it looked like they started it) it was clear that they meant to do him harm and he had his family in the car. They blocked his escape route to cause him harm and he called their bluff.
He could have killed someone? they 'could have' killed him.
How about the part where they boxed him in and one guy came out and tried to rip his door open? Or was smashing in the car window with his helmet to try and get at the guy and/or use the helmet as a bludgeoning weapon.
How wasn't he justified in gunning it?
Smiles and Cries
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some of these fools had no helmets doing the tricks in the 24 minute video
Randy Monk
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If I were the driver, it would've been a real life Carmageddon.
He really thought they were a bunch of heroes or something. Oh noes, that bastard hit our friend, we are going to catch him and serve justice!
They are just a bunch of terrorists. If you're being dangerous on the road you got to face the consequences, in this case, being run over. Brake check the car? He brakes to avoid hitting that idiot. Standing still with dozens of people around him and taunting him? Too bad, this time the driver hit the gas. No one else to blame, but yourself. The RR driver is a hero for trying to protect his family against dozens of savages.
Valkyr Junkie
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THANK YOU FOR READING THE SECOND SENTENCE YOU QUOTED.
PoweredBySoy
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I'll just pretend you were drunk when you posted that.
C'mon man they broke the mirror on a Prius. 1 percent!!
andthebeatgoeson
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I would have. At that point, they did enough to warrant a few run overs. Opened the car door (enough to cause you to be worried for your life), smashed in the window and whatever happened in the initial incident. It's a shame, probably a small few fucking up things for others and mob mentality. I can just imagine how scared he was. I wonder if he called the cops. I would have backed over them with my rims. Not in my half ton vehicle do they get me like that. I would have aimed for them.
Edit: that last Live Leak video shows them riding on the sidewalk. People are on the side walk. Fuck these guys through all manners. Fuck them all. Bunch of douche bags. The assault video shows them blowing through red lights chasing the guy. 20-30 bikes, through red lights and on side walks. What if they hit a kid? Pieces of fucking shit.
I was addressing the rumor that the driver had hit one of the bikers prior to what is seen on video. The bikers are claiming that it was the prior hit that instigated what is in the video, but no matter what, their actions in the video are unacceptable.
andthebeatgoeson
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Right before the initial incident, you see a biker in front of the SUV, slowing down, looking back, being a douche about 6 inches from the SUV. We don't see what the incident was, so it's speculation. But the bikers actions afterwards removes any doubt that the driver was not the instigator. This was, retrospectively, a hit a biker and get away with it card. They slashed his tires, smashed his window. Brake checking is considered aggressive driving by many states. That was the first. Being surrounded by an angry horde is enough to allow vehicular homicide.
If I'm ever faced with the same situation, I would run over those fucks. I wonder if we'll see/hear any 911 calls.
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Fallout-NL
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Even though it's not entirely clear whether the RR did something to piss 'em off, I'm going by my gut feeling here and guess that the motorcyclists probably had this coming. The guy brake checking in a fucking tshirt sorta says it all.
Makes me ashamed to own a motorcycle.
Makes me ashamed to own a motorcycle.
Updated Rumor Mill:
1. bikers riding mob style all three lanes
2. RR tries to merge into highway.
3. Stunterz try and squeeze traffic to slow down, to allow highway stunting ( a move in which a few bikes speed up to upcoming traffic, and slow their progress, so the "group can get ahead, and wheelie/stoppie with no threat of other cars)
4. RR clips bike trying to maunever around Brake checking Bikes. Angers bikers.
5. Video starts
6. Bikers then try and stop RR. In which they do. One rider goes to talk / yell at driver
4. RR then guns it hits and runs over biker in green kawi
5. http://instagram.com/p/e5uuWsCSx3/ owner of green kawi
7. Mob ensues to chase down driver who just drove over riding buddy, and now all bikers know what happened, and pissed even more
8. More bikes hit, milk crate breaks as driver fears for himself and family
9. 50 blocks later tires slashed driver gets pulled out and beaten
10. Nypd confiscates multiple bikes charges pending
11. Press release from nypd only states events from when video starts.
12. Most news media are siding with Driver. Gang Mentality violence
My take. The whole thing is fucked, and Everyone is at fault. The bikers, the RR driver is at fault as well. It was not a violence threat until he ran over a biker, In which the Mob kicked in. Only one person went to talk to the driver at first, and for all we know, it was to get insurance info/ IMO was more so a "Fuck you asshole, this street in ours" Which at that point a call to the police, and pull over and let the gang do there thing, hoping police show up soon. What Im hearing is that no violence / or personal property was abused, before the run and gun. Simply a man and his family, seeing 60 bikers, now stopped as you pissed one of them off. fears for life. Not sure that means you can now use your range rover as a battery ram though. :/
The real loss of these events that happened, is the guy that was run over, the RR driver and his family, and Law abiding Motorcyclists everywhere else.
1. bikers riding mob style all three lanes
2. RR tries to merge into highway.
3. Stunterz try and squeeze traffic to slow down, to allow highway stunting ( a move in which a few bikes speed up to upcoming traffic, and slow their progress, so the "group can get ahead, and wheelie/stoppie with no threat of other cars)
4. RR clips bike trying to maunever around Brake checking Bikes. Angers bikers.
5. Video starts
6. Bikers then try and stop RR. In which they do. One rider goes to talk / yell at driver
4. RR then guns it hits and runs over biker in green kawi
5. http://instagram.com/p/e5uuWsCSx3/ owner of green kawi
7. Mob ensues to chase down driver who just drove over riding buddy, and now all bikers know what happened, and pissed even more
8. More bikes hit, milk crate breaks as driver fears for himself and family
9. 50 blocks later tires slashed driver gets pulled out and beaten
10. Nypd confiscates multiple bikes charges pending
11. Press release from nypd only states events from when video starts.
12. Most news media are siding with Driver. Gang Mentality violence
My take. The whole thing is fucked, and Everyone is at fault. The bikers, the RR driver is at fault as well. It was not a violence threat until he ran over a biker, In which the Mob kicked in. Only one person went to talk to the driver at first, and for all we know, it was to get insurance info/ IMO was more so a "Fuck you asshole, this street in ours" Which at that point a call to the police, and pull over and let the gang do there thing, hoping police show up soon. What Im hearing is that no violence / or personal property was abused, before the run and gun. Simply a man and his family, seeing 60 bikers, now stopped as you pissed one of them off. fears for life. Not sure that means you can now use your range rover as a battery ram though. :/
The real loss of these events that happened, is the guy that was run over, the RR driver and his family, and Law abiding Motorcyclists everywhere else.
andthebeatgoeson
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Not sure what you expect when a bunch of bikers surround your car in the middle of a highway. As a man, I know if I have 10 people with me, I should expect anyone we surround to be nervous. This isn't rocket surgery. It's intimidating. And we have to assume the guy ran people over for some fear. Whether it's warranted is hard to say without being there. But at some point, we see the biker brake checking the RR. Then some shit happened. An accident or running over? Not enough facts now. But from my angle, I presume the bikers were being douches about things. Brake checking, surrounding a vehicle with no one interested in allowing vehicles behind them. Setting it up where people cannot be a witness except the other bikers. You could see it thru the entire video: blocking the ramp off the high way. What is it about a group of people on bikes that makes them think it's okay to block an entire highway?
Again, not enough for the court of law but still enough for me to comment. And sympathize with the driver. No matter what happened initially, all of these things were unwarranted. And it's understandable why the RR driver took off. If a group of motorcyclists surround my car after a common traffic accident, I'm not getting out. I'll stay in the car and if they get fiesty, I'll put a bunch of them in the hospital. It's crazy. Where the fucking cops?
Metroid Killer
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In the nypd article they mentioned that the gang started slashing tires and damaging the car when they surrounded it after the brake check.
If they wanted to just talk/exchange insurance info, they sure as hell weren't acting like it. I would have gun it as well.
If they wanted to just talk/exchange insurance info, they sure as hell weren't acting like it. I would have gun it as well.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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And the law pretty much agreed too considering the guy in the RR got off without any charges. None of this would've happened if those idiots weren't riding around like they owned the fucking streets.
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Your recap of the video leaves out some seriously important information. They didn't just try and slow the RR, and the RR didn't all of a sudden hit and run over the green kawi
gutter_trash
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Biker at fault, shoved himself in front of the Rover then broke hard on the brakes.
The Rover was following the flow of traffic but the bikes fucked it all up with their ''activism''
The RR driver was fearing for his life vs the size of the group. Wanna exchange some insurance papers? yeah right he got a beat down.
Where are the cops when you need them
The Rover was following the flow of traffic but the bikes fucked it all up with their ''activism''
The RR driver was fearing for his life vs the size of the group. Wanna exchange some insurance papers? yeah right he got a beat down.
Where are the cops when you need them
PoweredBySoy
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I laughed at insurance info. But you know, at some point people need to fucking realize there are consequences for their actions. You drive like dipshits over sidewalks, running lights, forcing traffic, and then you're shocked when somebody calls your bullshit when you force him to stop and surround his family? You'll get no sympathy from me - good luck with those hospital bills.
The RR driver better not see a minute of jail time.
As has been mentioned before, I don't really think this is being framed as a motorcycle versus vehicles thing. More like mob mentality versus the public.
I'm hearing that is completely false, and the video kind of backs it up.
Rockandrollclown
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Gotta agree with this. These pricks need the police as chaperones to keep them from acting stupid. All of these videos just point to a bunch of retards realizing how much strength in numbers they have and just run amok.
Hence the "IMO" portion. lol But the insurance thing was texted to me.
Just like video games causing violence.... Someone will place a news article about Bikers, and there trash, enveloping all of us.
Metroid Killer
Member
You can't tell from the video as there are too many bikers blocking the view. We however see several bikers off their bikes. It may or may not have happened. Where did you hear it may be false?
Particle Physicist
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Yes, that is exactly what happened. The biker just wanted to talk/yell at the driver. Got his buddies to completely surround the RR, force it to a stop in the middle of the highway so that he could give him a piece of his mind. They were planning on exchanging insurance info after that and then being on their way.
backflip10019
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Can someone tell me why it's totally fine for bikers to travel in a group that large? Seems inherently dangerous for everyone on the road.
What, the slashing piece? Who cares? The video shows them surrounding and threatening the car. The tire slashing has nothing to do with the justification for plowing through them.
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