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PS4 fastest-selling console in UK history, outsells Wii U LTD in UK [250K PS4 in 48h]

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Domino792

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djplaeskool said:
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The song in the credits plus the dancing is so perfect for it outselling Mario. Its a perfect haters gona hate lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwSlTPatDck
 
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Networker

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LMAO those youtube videos are hilarious. Shame on store managers, I think they did it purposely? but why? and why wouldn't people just pre-order. Beyond stupid *facepalm*
 
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slider

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Hoping for production matching demand (however the latter trends). Although that must be tough but especially so on/around launch.
 
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VXLbeast

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Raist said:
Sure, but it certainly puts all the "well WiiU doesn't sell because console gaming is dying" nonsense to a final rest.
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I don't know if we will ever be rid of those people. There was a guy insisting console gaming was dead when PS4 preorder numbers were rolling in. The unprecedented demand was pointed out to him, but he just kept repeating, "You wait and see!" These are tough times for many.
 
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SwiftDeath

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VXLbeast said:
I don't know if we will ever be rid of those people. There was a guy insisting console gaming was dead when PS4 preorder numbers were rolling in. The unprecedented demand was pointed out to him, but he just kept repeating, "You wait and see!" These are tough times for many.
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Are you sure his name wasn't goomba?
 
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Nags

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SwiftDeath said:
I get the feeling Sony wants to try and steal some of Nintendo's magic (not that they can just that they want to)

Games like puppeteer and tearaway. Future games like Rime

I think Sony is trying but they're in some odd middle ground between nintendo and MS

They value quality IP but are still risk-averse like most large publishers although not as badly as 3rd party pubs or imo as MS seems to be
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This isn't like some new thing for Sony.

Just a few off the top of my head that appeals to that same audience. Sly, Ratchet, Ico, SoTC, LBP, Jak and Demon's Souls. Your post makes it sound like Sony is just now reaching out to another demographic.

Sure they are risk-averse but then again we have a new Ratchet game just recently (and it's fucking gorgeous), Sly earlier this year as well (another amazing game) as well as Tearaway. I also get the feeling that Sony is the least risk-averse pub in the industry when it comes to new IPs. I haven't see any other pub that has such a steady stream of new IPs throughout the last gen.
 
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freezamite

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Zinthar said:
I think you're using the term "innovation" a tad too loosely. The Wii U's gamepad is anything but. It's a rather obvious move that comes from seeing multi-touch smartphones and tablets taking over. Except in the Wii U's case, the gamepad isn't even multi-touch, and uses an ugly, low-res TN display because Nintendo was trying to churn it out as cheaply as possible.

As it is, the actual application of the gamepad to significantly improve gameplay has been an exceedingly rare occurrence on the Wii U. Look no further than Nintendo's new flagship title to see that.
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That's your opinion, not a fact. The fact is that Nintendo is pushing the assymetrical gameplay factor since the GC era, when they attached a GBA to a GC and made some games that were playable in ways that weren't possible.

I still can't see your point of them copying something that they haven't copied. I mean, as you say, the touchpad isn't even multi-touch (and this is fine because those screens aren't nearly as precise as the one used on the WiiU), and since the console is sold at lost, then in no way they cheapened out as much as you insinuate.

Look, what Nintendo has been trying to do with the WiiU, and it's pretty clear from playing Nintendoland, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COPYING THE MOBILE MARKETS.
This is something this company it's working on since tons of years, but we've reached a point where it was technologically possible for them to implement it with the hardware.

But even if this was only a "let's imitate the tablets" thing (it isn't), it's undeniable that this gamepad offers tons of gameplay possibilities not possible on other console pads.
 
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Katana_Strikes

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You better have these European numbers by tomorrow Sony or I'm cancelling my pre... sending my PS4 back to the store whence it came... 250k -1 bitches!!!
 
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SwiftDeath

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Nags said:
This isn't like some new thing for Sony.

Just a few off the top of my head that appeals to that same audience. Sly, Ratchet, Ico, SoTC, LBP, Jak and Demon's Souls. Your post makes it sound like Sony is just now reaching out to another demographic.

Sure they are risk-averse but then again we have a new Ratchet game just recently (and it's fucking gorgeous), Sly earlier this year as well (another amazing game) as well as Tearaway. I also get the feeling that Sony is the least risk-averse pub in the industry when it comes to new IPs. I haven't see any other pub that has such a steady stream of new IPs throughout the last gen.
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You're right. My post was poorly worded. I did mean Sony has been trying to get that demographic for a while now

Of all the 1P publishers I consider them to have the most diverse offerings and with how poorly some of the 1P sales have been it does seem like Sony is grudgingly ok with releasing great games to less than stellar sales. Obviously they will try to improve said sales but only so much can be done
 
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Imperfected

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Gartooth said:
Yeah, but the thread is more about the complete success of the PS4, and the real story here is about how well received that console is. Not to say Wii U isn't a complete failure in almost every sense of the word, but we knew that already, it didn't take PS4 completely obliterating it to know that.
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There are a few people who really did need to see that to accept it, and a few holdouts who still refuse to accept it until Smash and Mario Kart release. Not saying there's any value in dragging them kicking and screaming into reality, but it is what it is.

This is sort of a perfect storm situation, anyway, since 3D World already had a lot of people railing against it on account of not being a "real" Mario successor, making it more contentious than it needed to be and thus making the fact that Knack outsold it (even if most likely only in a few regions, for a brief span of time) bait for an entirely different group of people to pile on the "gotcha" posts behind the primary "Wii-U is not proof the games industry is dying" crow-serving session.

The whole thing's a bit preemptive since these are UK numbers only and better worldwide figures should be just around the corner, but this has been building up for a long time. You pretty much can't go through the major PS4 pre-release threads without finding instances of someone poking in just to announce that it was going to be a dismal failure because gaming is dead and the Wii-U was going to set the high water mark for a generation of utter failure. The refrain had completely worn out its welcome, and a lot of people are very happy to be burning that effigy at even this less-than-ideal opportunity.
 
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scrambles

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UK is probably the biggest market for gaming in Europe, with Germany being a close second.
I wonder what kind of overall numbers we're looking at.
Maybe 500k first day?
1m in two weeks?
 
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velvet_nitemare

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Raist said:
Sure, but it certainly puts all the "well WiiU doesn't sell because console gaming is dying" nonsense to a final rest.
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One would hope, but i have a sneaky suspicion that these people are waiting for the first sign of bad sales to pipe up again. It's been mooted that only the core/early adopters are buying and once those run out the sales will come crashing down.

Hell the Wii U is used as an example since it apparently had a good launch.

I'm fairly confident the PS4Bone will have no probs matching PS360's first year sales wise, so hopefully that will shut them up. Then again the Wii might get brought up if they fail to match that. Should make for interesting sales threads at least.
 
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freezamite said:
But even if this was only a "let's imitate the tablets" thing (it isn't), it's undeniable that this gamepad offers tons of gameplay possibilities not possible on other console pads.
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The DS4 would do a pretty damn good job emulating Nintendo's touchscreen.
 
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Katana_Strikes

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scrambles said:
UK is probably the biggest market for gaming in Europe, with Germany being a close second.
I wonder what kind of overall numbers we're looking at.
Maybe 500k first day?
1m in two weeks?
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I'd like to think Sony got another million to Europe at launch on top of their US haul. Sony did say the UK would be getting a significant proportion of those consoles so 25% of the shipment seems pretty good and inline with that.
 
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Nags

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freezamite said:
That's your opinion, not a fact. The fact is that Nintendo is pushing the assymetrical gameplay factor since the GC era, when they attached a GBA to a GC and made some games that were playable in ways that weren't possible.

I still can't see your point of them copying something that they haven't copied. I mean, as you say, the touchpad isn't even multi-touch (and this is fine because those screens aren't nearly as precise as the one used on the WiiU), and since the console is sold at lost, then in no way they cheapened out as much as you insinuate.

Look, what Nintendo has been trying to do with the WiiU, and it's pretty clear from playing Nintendoland, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COPYING THE MOBILE MARKETS.
This is something this company it's working on since tons of years, but we've reached a point where it was technologically possible for them to implement it with the hardware.

But even if this was only a "let's imitate the tablets" thing (it isn't), it's undeniable that this gamepad offers tons of gameplay possibilities not possible on other console pads.
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Bold claims.
The first has me scratching my head. So... a tablet like device used as the main control input and a major selling point being off-TV play is not influenced by the trends in the mobile market?

The 2nd only really speaks of the potential and not the reality. Even first party titles that are released are having a hard time making compelling experiences with the game tablet's unique feature set.
 
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traveler

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fabricated backlash said:
As a reward for the developers? Yes, absolutely. But Nintendo as a publisher simply doesn't deserve good sales. Not with how they basically put their hands in their pockets, doing nothing for over 2 years.

It's sad that good games don't sell, but it's a simple reality that with how Nintendo has conducted it's home console business that they simply don't deserve success, no matter how good their games are. Quality of a product is just half the battle. It is almost insulting to the developers, how incompetent, lazy and complacent Nintendo has acted both as a platform holder and publisher.



Oh stop the melodrama. Really. I'm an avid player, and a huge Nintendo fan. Currently enjoying the hell out of ALBW and clocking in at 260 hours of ACNL as well as WiiFit, Wii Sports Club and Wii Party U.

But despite enjoying the console and it's games, I find it irresponsible to not hold Nintendo accountable for their fuck ups. I buy their games because I want them, but they honestly believed, that they'd have enough people like me left to have a successful console.

That much idiocy and hubris deserves a response from the market and thankfully it's been delivered, and plentiful.

Like I said, it can only get better from here... assuming Iwata actually implements some of the lessons learned from this disaster for once instead of just endlessly apologizing and repeat "please understand" ad nauseam.
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You are free to like and dislike what you want, (I feel this is like the fourth time I've repeated this today) but I don't like this attitude that we as a group need to collectively wag the finger at Nintendo and ask them to own up. This is a sales disaster, that is clear, but that doesn't mean it's objectively a failure from a consumer's perspective.

In my opinion, Nintendo is the only one of the first parties that has actually succeeded. Would I like better hardware? Sure, but it's not particularly relevant to gaming quality on the whole and if it comes at the expense of more quality software or slows/hurts their development process, then no I wouldn't take it. (And it's not like we don't have precedence for that in the industry) Should they advertised better and had better messaging? Absolutely. Should they really work at third party relations until the support kicks in for good? Yes, of course. But none of these mistakes are as big as just screwing up on the biggest aspect of the medium- the games. And, likewise, getting all of these things wrong is fine to me if the games ARE right.

So, no, they don't "deserve" to fail. The system may not be for you, but I'm not "irresponsible" because I enjoy it and find the company a considerably better first party than the others. Do I ask you and everyone else to hold Sony or Microsoft accountable for their poor software development? Do I insult you for not doing it? Do I call the heads of their studios idiots? No, so why should I be obligated to hold Nintendo accountable for the Wii U's commercial failure? Don't hold up sales as some kind of justification for all these terrible arguments.
 
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BurnOutBrighter

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Sony's gamer-first stance has been vindicated.

I love a good meltdown thread. We've got salt, we've got GIFs, it's all I need.

It feels like it's been a while since we've had a thread like this, even though the last one was probably Resolutiongate two weeks ago.

Here's to the dozens more to come!
 
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Finalizer

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Nags said:
The first has me scratching my head. So... a tablet like device used as the main control input and a major selling point being off-TV play is not influenced by the trends in the mobile market?
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I'd say the touchscreen controller is more Nintendo going bankrupt on new ideas and just trying to shove the success of the DS platforms onto their home system than really following mobile trends.

BurnOutBrighter said:
I love a good meltdown thread. We've got salt, we've got GIFs, it's all I need.

It feels like it's been a while since we've had a thread like this, even though the last one was probably Resolutiongate two weeks ago.

Here's to the dozens more to come!
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Fuck spending $400+ on new machines, some of the best entertainment of the year comes entirely free.
 
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Joni

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scrambles said:
UK is probably the biggest market for gaming in Europe, with Germany being a close second.
I wonder what kind of overall numbers we're looking at.
Maybe 500k first day?
1m in two weeks?
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I'm guessing:
250K = UK
200K-250K = Germany
150-200K = France
100K = Italy
100K = Spain
25K = Netherlands + Belgium
25K = Scandinavia
 
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Nags

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Finalizer said:
I'd say the touchscreen controller is more Nintendo going bankrupt on new ideas and just trying to shove the success of the DS platforms onto their home system than really following mobile trends.
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This actually makes a lot of sense. You have a point.
 
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Raist

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scrambles said:
UK is probably the biggest market for gaming in Europe, with Germany being a close second.
I wonder what kind of overall numbers we're looking at.
Maybe 500k first day?
1m in two weeks?
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In terms of console/handheld gaming, France is a close second actually, because a big chunk of the german market is PC.

And just for reference, the PS3 sold 600k in 48h in Europe. It won't take 2 weeks for the PS4 to sell a million. It might be done already.
 
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Thunder Monkey

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kinggroin said:
Thunder Monkey isn't some fanboy that has his hopes up over a PS2 scenario. He's just making an honest prediction based on early sales.

I mostly agree with him, but I still believe MS will take US.
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Hell, I haven't even owned a Sony console since the PS2 in 2001-2004. I tend to lean Nintendo if anything. Though my recent posts may not show that. I'm being harshly realistic about their prospects this generation.

I just don't think manufacturer loyalty will hold up when talking a $100 price difference. Especially since they've got the legit claim on "more for less". WiiU is for the most part irrelevant, so the main competition for it is XOne. And I think Sony has the perfect storm to build a sizable lead in the USA alone. One that may prove insurmountable if mass market interest is there.
 
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polyh3dron

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Skilletor said:
If you're feeling sorry for me, I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but games ain't one.

I got Bayonetta on stack fa sho
Mario Kart gonna come out and ya’ll’s mouths’ll close
Game critics say U’s has no game is gettin old
I’m a gamer stupid what type of facts is those
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I see The Seth got a new account finally.

Too many syllables there, buddy,
 
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freezamite

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Steroyd said:
The DS4 would do a pretty damn good job emulating Nintendo's touchscreen.
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Do you think so? In that tiny screen it has? How?

Nags said:
The first has me scratching my head. So... a tablet like device used as the main control input and a major selling point being off-TV play is not influenced by the trends in the mobile market?
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What has "off-tv" to do with the mobile market? And the controller has buttons, joystics, a resistive screen.... what has that to do with the tablets?
This is a controller with a screen attached to it, which is something Nintendo has been pushing since the old days.

Nags said:
The 2nd only really speaks of the potential and not the reality. Even first party titles that are released are having a hard time making compelling experiences with the game tablet's unique feature set.
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A launch game like ZombiU wouldn't be possible without that controller. At least as it is now.
Nintendo Land was another showcase of gameplay experiences not possible without that gamepad.

On the other hand, yes, it's all a matter of potential and not reality, just like how we all know that the PS4 would have better graphics than the WiiU even before seeing the first PS4 game.

It's all about potential. If PS4 was limited to IOs cheap ports of indie developments then the WiiU could very well end with games more technically impressive, but we all knew this wasn't the case, and since launch the WiiU has demonstrated to be something different and unique.

It's just that innovating the gameplay or the UI is not as important as to improve the graphics to the mainstream public.

Finalizer said:
I'd say the touchscreen controller is more Nintendo going bankrupt on new ideas and just trying to shove the success of the DS platforms onto their home system than really following mobile trends.
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Yes, this is why they launched Zelda 4 swords and co-developed FF:CC, because they were running out of ideas and had to copy the DS idea with the GBA and the GC and... oh wait!
 
Mr.Gingerlicious

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Hasney said:
If you own a Wii U, just enjoy it. I probably played more 3D World than I did my PS4 when I got it because it is the better game for me compared to Knack (which is also great, just in a different way), but the console is going to get spanked in sales. Just accept the fact we bought another Dreamcast and realise that's not a bad thing.

Nintendo & Sega (when they were making consoles) in panic mode is a glorious thing and we will get a fuckton of fantastic games out of it. Don't worry about what other people are buying, Nintendo will support it until the bitter end and you will have fun. Just be thankful the console industry in the UK isn't completely dead and move on.
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Log4Girlz said:
Sony has done an absolute masterful job and has learned so much from their mistakes with the PS3.
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AzaK said:
Absolutely. They saw that the core gamer was needed at the start and went all in to make that happen. From the hardware, price, messaging, yoshida engaging gamers, everything. And the also catered to their third party partners.

It's nice to see Nintendo getting a schooling on how to treat your loyal, dedicated consumers.
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I just wanted to say that these examples display a really good attitude towards the news and situation :)

Comments and users like these make me enjoying coming here and wasting spending large amounts of time reading :D
 
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