WarrenMax007
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Well, they are more deserving of them than Kyle Chandler, so.
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2014-15 TV Cancellations: Under the Dome canned, what will CBS do with CG cows next?
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I think all the actors put in solid work. It's more the script and direction and slow, tedious lack of plot that are boring and wretched. I mean. I wouldn't blame the actors.
Again, haven't seen Bloodline. But if you're really advocating that someone like Frank Grillo for Kingdom deserves an Emmy nomination, I'm not sure if I have anything to say besides that we must have wildly different tastes in television.
I mean, it's a polarizing show. It's going to be pretty love it or hate it. No clue which camp you'll be in. I mean, I always thought of you as having excellent taste, so I assume you'll be in the hate it camp.
Yeah, I hear that it starts to coalesce around the latter part of the season but the first part is a bit of a slog. Don't know if I have time for that, so it's under a lot of other shows I've been too busy to watch because of work. But it's on there because a lot of people I trust like it.
WarrenMax007
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Sure. But i think Mendelsohn was great, everyone else? They were good. Nothing special but solid.
Chandler on the other hand. I said it a lot, but he was bad here. And i think he's a good actor. Just not here.
Then let's talk when you've seen it.
Since everyone is complaining about Bloodline being too slow I will give a different perspective; the show wasn't not slow enough, the more action-y flashforwards ruined the otherwise nice pacing. Chandler was fine in it, and even if I can name actors more deserving of a nomination it isn't an outrage by any stretch.
Weapxn
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I agree. I think it would have been better had we not seen the flashforwards. I liked it though.
I've also watched Kingdom. That was more solid trashy fun than genuinely good television.
RatskyWatsky
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Bloodline is good, albeit extremely slow moving (which isn't necessarily a bad thing). Kyle Chandler didn't deserve an Emmy nom though.
Probably, lol.
Probably, lol.
You know, this list makes me fully realize that Netflix has really been killing it with original series. The only garbage series on that list is Hemlock Grove. I haven't watched Marco Polo or Bloodline, so I can't comment on those. But everything else is good to great. And Bloodline got a good amount of recognition critically and from those who watched it.
Okay, but my argument is that Frank Grillo is deserving of no Emmys, regardless if Bloodline is a thing that exists in the universe or not.
Crimson Clown
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Bloodline is fantastic. Getting some much deserved award attention.
TheAbsolution
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Clearly.....Like I said. Bloodline is a very polarizing show.
RatskyWatsky
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They have to give the mainstream audience something to root for - they don't want it to be like the Oscars where no one gives a shit because no one's seen any of the films nominated. For every 'Mad Men' and 'Breaking Bad', there's a 'Game of Thrones' and 'Downton Abbey', leaving no room for super obscure shows like 'Rectify' or 'The Americans'.
It's not a good show but it does have some wonderfully bizarre moments, that's for sure. I mean, that season two cliffhanger? What in the flying fuck? I mean, literally, what the fuck was that
flying thing
I honestly can't wait to see how batshit insane the final season is.
idk what between is, but hemlock grove is trash
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The new Scorsese/Winter rock drama is called 'Vinyl' but won't premiere till next year. In place of a big new drama, HBO will air the first season of The Knick instead. lol
The show is entertaining, involuntarily hilarious and simply insane. The season two cliffhanger is a thing of beauty. Is it good by traditional standards? Absolutely not, but there's an enormous amount of likeable aspects.
With the second season they really decided to embrace the insanity (and the trash factor). I just can't hate the show. It's too hilarious.
It's entertaining trash, which at least puts it above Bloodline.
Steelyuhas
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More fuel to my "HBO should have aired The Knick on HBO" fire!
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The questions people are asking HBO's Michael Lombardo at TCA are completely asinine. "Thoughts on True Detective season 2?" "Is (game of thrones spoiler)
What do they expect him to say? "Yeah, this season of True Detective was a complete misfire, an embarrassment for everyone involved." "(game of thrones spoiler)
I mean.
Jon Snow really dead?"
What do they expect him to say? "Yeah, this season of True Detective was a complete misfire, an embarrassment for everyone involved." "(game of thrones spoiler)
Yes, but in a big twist, he's going to be revived early on in the season. We initially wanted to keep it a surprise, but what the hell, it's TCA!"
I mean.
Stumpokapow
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LOL I guess they regret passing a good show to their skeevy dumping ground, Cinemax
dead souls
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Seriously? What a fucking pathetic network.
How hard is it to get dramas on the air, every other network seems to manage just fine.
And now Deadline is reporting that Utopia might not go over budget issues, so there's another hole to fill.
Was there any truth to the rumour the remake was (partially) to blame for the UK cancellation? HBO wanting it to be their own? If so, it will be really shitty if Fincher's version doesn't go ahead, I was looking forward to it.
Steelyuhas
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Is HBO actually airing The Knick on a weekly basis this summer. The PR release only mentions it being available on digital platforms (HBO GO, HBO NOW, and On Demand) for 10 weeks starting August 14th. Unless I'm blind, I don't see a mention of them actually airing it on the network (other than a marathon on HBO2 right before Season 2 starts. The Press Release
In any case, they could have solved this issue when Soderbergh dumped the show in it's lap and aired it on HBO. They wouldn't have had this drama lapse that they had last summer and this summer.
In any case, they could have solved this issue when Soderbergh dumped the show in it's lap and aired it on HBO. They wouldn't have had this drama lapse that they had last summer and this summer.
The HBO adaptation? It fell through?
Steelyuhas
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Wut explain
SneakySneaks
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Is it because Fincher is working more on the Ellroy show? Please let it be that.
CreeperBlocks
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has Halt and Catch Fire been renewed yet? It's actually better than last season IMO
Nothing yet. We probably won't hear anything till like a few weeks after the finale ends.
Speaking of which, some press saw the S2 finale and they were ecstatic about it.
https://twitter.com/tvoti/status/626095720614002688
https://twitter.com/poniewozik/status/626849405417750528
https://twitter.com/afillari/status/626888131241861120
That's really not what they're doing. They're not even pretending it's filling a spot on their fall schedule or anything. Just further promotion for the show and Cinemax.
I believe it's now fully in production after some delays. TCA folks saw an extended trailer.
In the age of the Internet, you're gonna have reporters seeking easy articles that grab hits, regardless of the information value.
CreeperBlocks
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Awesome. I just finished Episode 8 in season two I'm really interested where this show can go
RatskyWatsky
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#MESS
#MESS
It sounds a little too sinister to be true but it's HBO so let's just say yes.
Ah, well, I was just going off of the initial Twitter chatter. That's even worse though - instead of filling a hole in their schedule with a show they've never aired before, they'll probably just air repeats of an older HBO series in its place like they did last year when they actually aired repeats of True Detective in prime time to fill the slot behind Boardwalk Empire.
Is this what your "this'll be fun" post was about?
Also, puzzled by them referring to it as a pilot when it was reported everywhere as a series order last year.
TheWorthyEdge
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Wait did I read that right? Netflix is buying the Blacklist? Da fuq!? Where is Season 2! I need to watch it...watched Season 1 because its on Netflix. I need 2 on Netflix.
RatskyWatsky
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They secured the exclusive streaming rights to the series, yes. Season 2 should be on Netflix shortly before/after the third season premieres.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Looks like Ivy scooped Nellie by around 20 minutes.
Steelyuhas
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Hmm doesn't sounds good. Hopefully there's some chance they can still come to an agreement, love Fincher's work.
Yeah, I wish they would just air it on HBO. I watched it last year, but I know a number of friends that I know would be way into it, but they don't get Cinemax.
firehawk12
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I don't know how useful these figures are, but these are basically the types of shows that would not get a nerd fanbase.
I mean, how many people (other than me) want to see Martin Sheen and Sam Waterson deal with coming out to their families and discuss wedding plans? Let alone show their appreciation of the show on the internet? lol
It's show that makes Looking seem mainstream despite having four "big name" actors.
Bloodline I feel is about as quiet as Damages ever was anyway and probably doesn't have the same type of "engaged" audience.
Exclusive just for the U.S., or worldwide?
RatskyWatsky
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I wish they would air a British import or something. I mean, they have Doll & Em...
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I just assumed it was a co-production.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I looked at the initial report but didn't see any mention of US/worldwide rights.
It's not, as far as I know.
Wiktor
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Lol..apperently it's getting another adaptation. This time on USA.
http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/07/1st-to-die-in-development-at-usa.html
Since I'm in the business of saying nice things about the least liked shows on Netflix; the first episode of Grace & Frankie is the single greatest thing Netflix has made. I'm not even being hyperbolic, but you should not approach the show as a comedy rather as a funny drama series.
Yeah, there are a lot of great British shows deserving a bigger audience. I know that Line of Duty series 1 aired on Hulu but not sure about series 2. I'm watching right now it in tandem with True Detective season 2 and it's like watching the Brits burning down Washington.
Wiktor
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Like Wallander. Ambitious cop dramas seems to be a thing these days and nothing in this genre measures up to BBC's Wallander, True Detective's S1 included
That is quite the opinion, like damn. I have a hard time understanding the British and their hard on for Wallander but this is on a whole other level. Sure the British version is better (and anyone who claims otherwise is a middle class tryhard who thinks that because it's "foreign" it's better) but to say that it is the best of its genre and better than True Detective season one? It's not the best cop drama from the BBC (that would be the aforementioned Line of Duty), hell it's not even the best cop drama on BBC One (which is Happy Valley). I think this might be the most puzzling opinion I've seen on TVgaf.
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