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AMD's "tressfx" unveiled; Lara can take care of her own hair [DX11 compute]
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razgriz417
Member
according to brad from Giantbomb, they still have some stupid video embargos up until Monday (hence no quick look), wouldn't surprise me if AMD is stuck with the same embargo
The Dutch Slayer
Member
Maybe I'm blind but for the life of me I can not find witch cards you need to take advantage of this and will it effect your fps?
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Any card released within the last 2 years will support it.
MrCookiepants
Member
I would buy a Heavenly Sword 2 on PS4 if they used this tech for Nariko's hair.
Just for that.
Just for that.
All cards with DX11 can run this.
Performance is not known as of yet, but I am sure it definitely is not 'for free'/.
This has not been disclosed yet, however a Eidos moderator claims it runs "lovely" on his GTX680. I don't know if he means with all other settings maxed but it bodes well for Nvidia users.
I wouldn't expect maxing out the game with TressFx and getting 60fps on a Nvidia card, but 30fps will do for me. I take pretty visuals over 60fps.
Nixxes who did the PC port of TR said that TressFX is the most demanding effect in the PC version. Now that's pretty vague. But I guess it should give us a rough idea.
dr_rus
Member
1. Any DX11 card.
2. As any additional GPU effect it will affect your fps.
so does this mean a "hard coded" hair physics (like the one in Alice 2) is still a better solution than tressfx?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KBSvavllyYc
Just when we were talking about that, a trailer of the "Never Settle" bundle.
Just when we were talking about that, a trailer of the "Never Settle" bundle.
GoddyofAus
Banned
Maybelline: AMD edition.
dr_rus
Member
What's "hard coded"? Since TressFX isn't using anything but DX11 (and I bet that it's not something that you can just take from TR and paste into another game/engine) is it "hard coded" too? Any additional GPU effect will lower your fps compared to no effect. Hard coded or not.
I would really like to support AMD. I just hear so much about their Crossfire problems compared to SLI. And while I know it's 50% cheaper than Nvidia, it's not worth it IMO if you are gaming at a higher resolution.
Here is an interesting article on this:
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...w-and-Frame-Rating-Update/Frame-Rat?#comments
I really love their pricing, and promotions like their game bundle. BUt if you are going to pay that much for a nice system and are gaming at higher than 1080p, you pretty much have to get a 2nd card to be able to max out game specs.
He's referring to Alice's hair not being affected by physics and is instead simply a smart use of animation blending.
Huh? No, it's not at all. The hair in Madness Returns is very clearly simulation-driven.
I'd read that the hair wasn't achieved using PhysX, but upon a bit of Google'ing it appears that may be in reference to hardware-accelerated PhysX in particular.
plagiarize
Banned
the hair simulation stuff in Alice was built entirely in house by spicy horse. It doesn't use phsyx, but it is physically modelled, its just all their own code.
Ah, the more you know! Cheers.
God the music is beyond awful.
Felix Lighter
Member
Sorry, that's where all the money went. We won't see anything else until the generation after next.
plagiarize
Banned
why wouldn't you want better hair? Hair is crap compared to anything else on a character. It's been in need of something like this for a good while.
I meant since Alice hair don't require PhysX or DX11 ( the Alice hair work the same on PS3/360 too) isn't that a better solution than something affect the performance?
Thanks for the info.
iirc I read it's done by only one guy at Spicy Horse.
I'd take good looking hair over all other post process effects game developers have started using lately. Because fuck another 7 years of bald/short haired dudes.
plagiarize
Banned
Alice's hair has a rendering and computational cost just like Lara's here. It just isn't something you can disable and it doesn't put the console versions over rendering budget (ie they can do it while maintaining 30fps).
Its not as complex an effect so it's cheaper. That's no reason not to spend milliseconds on better hair implementations if you have the rendering budget to afford them.
The Alice hair also affects performance. Everything a game does affects performance -- in Alice's case you just can't turn it off to quantify the effect. We'll see how the performance tradeoff goes when we see tressfx in motion.
Edit: Yeah, see above.
Even nVidia cards? Or just ati cards?
I remember it having fantastic hair physics for its time.
Yes, because hair will certainly be the only thing to look nicer. Get off your high horse.
SirIgbyCeaser
Banned
So what other games will most likely make use of this in the near future? Bioshock Infinity ?
The witcher 3? Would this be added in a patch to crysis 3 ?
The witcher 3? Would this be added in a patch to crysis 3 ?
to be fair that does still have some of the best looking hair ever in it
specially when they kiss on the ship but that's besides the point
this isn't a company completely betting the farm on one thing here it's just an additional bonus
Why add it to Crysis? I think I've seen 1 screenshot from that game with someone who has hair that would benefit from this.
But I do want it The Witcher 3, the hair in TW2 was pretty bad.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Really should change the thread title to say "Works on AMD and Nvidia DX11 cards."
Depends on whether or not the game will include characters with relatively longer hair *and* most importantly if it pays off allocating workhours to.
Next gen is hair - TressFX from AMD for DX11 cards
I like that!
I didn't said it was a bad movie, just that it flopped
Even though it isn't a dx11 card?
Haemi
Member
As far as i know DirectCompute works on all Nvidia Cards that support CUDA.
SuperEpicGuy
Banned
They did. 3 years ago. Search up PhysX hair simulation.
Did any games actually use it or was it simply a tech demo?
What does the word "any" mean to you?