Yeah, I don't understand it either, my use of the springboard/homescreen is transient, I leave an app generally knowing where I want to go to next, navigate to it, and launch the next app. Are there just so few apps for other platforms that they spend all their time on the home screen? It makes little sense to me the complaints about the springboard.
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Apple Media Event - 1080p AppleTV, 4G/LTE 2048x1536 iPad, same price, Mar 16th
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Yeah, I don't understand it either, my use of the springboard/homescreen is transient, I leave an app generally knowing where I want to go to next, navigate to it, and launch the next app. Are there just so few apps for other platforms that they spend all their time on the home screen? It makes little sense to me the complaints about the springboard.
Ah ok, thanks.
I would want 5x6 on my iPad home screen. I think 4x4 is enough for the iPhone IMHO.5x5 would be better than 4x5.
However, Apple is the company whose multitasking screen looks like this:
Some fanboys may misguidedly defend attaching only 20% of the screen to the very vital Home double-tap as being minimalist and unconfusing. However, Apple blocks the whole screen for Notification Center, so that is out the window. Both systems are kind of kludgy compared to webOS, so obviously there is room for improvement.
I want universal Bluetooth, brightness, and radio settings. Dammit.
As for the App Switcher screen, I personally think they should move the controls from the "left swipe" section of that bar onto the top of that screen. Have them slide down and always be visible so I can double-press and immediately press Next for the next song like I can when it's asleep. It's really STUPID that they hide it off to the left down there when it could easily be put up at the top of that unused space and still not become cluttered and confusing. They could also put notifications in the middle and it'd be fine. Make that screen all-purpose but do it in an Apple way. At least as an OPTION for goodness sakes.
Side note: I have an Android phone (2.1) and I find myself pressing Home twice and being really angry when it doesn't bring up a screen where I can close programs. But that's my problem for not getting an iPhone yet.
So, the price drop on the iPad 2, combined with the additional $50 difference for picking up a refurbished model from Apple, means the version I had initially dismissed as too expensive (16 GB 3G) is now $150 cheaper. Might be picking one up for my sabbatical in the next month or so.
First Apple product ever.
First Apple product ever.
Pristine_Condition
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Apple is selling a tablet with an amazing screen, large amount of ram and HD space, fast cpu, camera etc etc for 499.99. Meanwhile Wacom is charging 1,000 for this
which has a horrible screen and a million cables.
and 2,000 for a 21 inch monitor with horrible resolution. God i wish Apple make something that a proffesional artist can use without having to fucking finger paint.
I certainly wouldn't say it's a stupid gripe like Pachterballs did, but it's certainly a misdirected one.
It seems like the company you should be legitimately peeved with is Wacom, who does make a specific product in this very specific category and does service this specialty market, rather than Apple, who doesn't make this product and only services this market rather indirectly, as they are much more broad in their customer focus.
It's not Apple's problem that Wacom overprices their product and under-delivers in terms of its product design. And it's not really legit to complain that Apple doesn't dip their toes into certain professional markets just because you really wish they would. I wish Apple would invest a few billion and all their great design and software expertise on making a high-end, professional digital and still camera that would revolutionize the industry in ease of use and cost and customer service, and shoot in ProRes natively. But I'm not going to complain that they don't.
Chittagong
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I wonder if anything can be read from the redesign of Apple TV channels into wide app icons... TV AppStore coming?
Circle T
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It is pretty amazing how things like that progress. My Galaxy Note's 5.3" screen has the same resolution as my old 13.3" Al-MacBook (1280x800). I would love a super high-res screen in my Air.
Marty Chinn
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I have to think since they gimped on the CPU, that it's less likely to happen.
When'd they gimp the CPU? When they went to AppleTV 2 or just yesterday? I think an app store in the same way the Roku has would be a smart move for Apple. Especially if it has a Plex channel that can access a Plex server across the internet like the iOS app. Without needing to Jailbreak it.
Marty Chinn
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Just yesterday I mean. Yesterday they announce a new AppleTV but when you look at the specs at the CPU they put in there, it seems purposely held back for the sake of cost and that limitation makes me feel like they don't see doing apps on the device as an open platform at some point. It seems just enough to get the job done that it was intended for.
If you have a Microcenter near you I think they are also doing an additional $50 off, but on new ones.
I think it is possible that they believe that channel apps with light interactive features are the best sort of app for a TV. They can still create a Channel AppStore for the ATV without going all out and including gaming - which is what would be the kind of apps that are most CPU intensive. TV seems to be a very passive form of entertainment.
It could also be possible that if they ARE thinking about entering the TV market they don't want the ATV2 or 3 to be a competitor to it, and they could put an A6 in it. This has its advantages as well much like they use the iPad to introduce a chip before shrinking it for the phone they could do even more stages to improve yield and reduce price TV->iPad->iPhone->iPod. I don't know if they would do this, or even the likelihood that they would, but I do imagine it is one of the things that they think or thought about doing.
Marty Chinn
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Not saying that it can't happen, but it seems odd to me that they just wouldn't put the same dual core A5 that is in the iPhone 4S and the iPad 2. You figure it's gotta be dirt cheap to use the same processor and then it would be in line with that hardware so it would be easy to target across platforms for performance. I think the fact that they just added a single core A5 to make sure it can handle 1080p content is a sign that they don't plan to take the platform too seriously for apps. Maybe a revision 4 or something that gets released at the same time as the rumored full tv set, but I don't think we're going to see it in revision 3 now because of the choice in their CPU.
Pristine_Condition
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I think it's more likely that the chip in the AppleTV is the same chip that is used in the iPad, just with one of the cores disabled.
When you fab chips, you're never going to have 100% yield. This gives them something to do with the new iPad chips that work fine except for one thing in one of the CPU cores.
So they are able to use a better chip in the AppleTV, and still keep it at $99, because they're basically just using the best of the castoff chips from the tens of millions of new iPads they are producing. .
When you fab chips, you're never going to have 100% yield. This gives them something to do with the new iPad chips that work fine except for one thing in one of the CPU cores.
So they are able to use a better chip in the AppleTV, and still keep it at $99, because they're basically just using the best of the castoff chips from the tens of millions of new iPads they are producing. .
badcrumble
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I'd actually like to see the Clock and Weather *apps* make it over to the iPad, and I'm disappointed that that didn't happen with iOS 5.1. Also disappointed in the lack of Siri on the iPad 3; hopefully that'll happen this summer with iOS 6 when the service comes out of beta.
ATV sells for $99. Apple's selling each iPhone 4S for at least $600 to carriers, and the iPad 2 starts at $399.
With the lack of volume sales on the ATV, I think they're pleased making a profit on each without worrying about pushing the tech. Got to imagine they're saving that for the big TV as they continue to work on content deals.
Single core A5X's could be the cheapest thing they have, if one core is bad they would be unusable for the iPad (3rd gen) or any other device they have and they would just toss it. However, they could switch the ATV to use these useless trash processors, and then save the A4s for the production of more cheap iPhone 4, which they will likely keep around for the next ~18 months and need to keep producing anyway.
Doc Holliday
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I know that I use one everyday. My point is that Wacom has no competition and gouge the shit out of their customers.
Wacom can do whatever they want of course, I'm just trying to point how awesome it would be if Apple included pressure sensitivity on a ipad.
Slurpy2k20
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Apple is Apple. Even with $100B in the bank, still stingy as fuck.
Either way, I;m assuming the A5 will handle anything thrown at it from a video perspective, which for me would be important for a potential jailbroken ATV with XBMC.
An A5, dual core or not, is still pretty capable with the SGX543MP2. 10 foot UI apps, if and when an SDK for it comes out, don't really need the fastest chips.
Apple TV apps are all like this:
Apple TV apps are all like this:
steve@me.com 
HD video of the apple event is out
http://itstreaming.apple.com/podcasts/apple_keynotes_hd/apple_keynotes_hd.xml
http://itstreaming.apple.com/podcasts/apple_keynotes_hd/apple_keynotes_hd.xml
Doc Holliday
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I have a cintiq 21ux, there's no reason they should still be charging 2,000 for it. The screen is horrible for what you pay for. Its a 200 dollar monitor at best!
Anyway I'm way off topic
Just an artist venting and dreaming of what could be. Back on topic!
I'm starting to regret not buying the 32 gig version instead of the 16 :/
I have a cintiq 21ux, there's no reason they should still be charging 2,000 for it. The screen is horrible for what you pay for. Its a 200 dollar monitor at best!
Anyway I'm way off topic
Back on topic!
I'm starting to regret not buying the 32 gig version instead of the 16 :/
When i had a 32 GB iPad 1 i was always using more than 16 GB. Assuming that assets are going to be bigger now that we have a higher res screen, I would be weary about going the 16 GB route.
Marty Chinn
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Apparently it's not powerful enough to handle Blu Ray rips unfortunately. So there is still a limitation from a video perspective.
It didn't stop Apple from using the A4 in the 2nd revision which was the same CPU as the iPad and iPhone 4. I can't imagine that the way Apple works that the numbers would be so far off for them not to be able to do it now. Certainly their margins are bigger going the route they did, but it's not like they didn't use the same CPU before.
1080p iTunes comparisons: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2...ooks-good-through-better-h264-compression.ars
Doc Holliday
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Marty Chinn
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1080p iTunes comparisons: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2...ooks-good-through-better-h264-compression.ars
It's going to make a difference depending on what's going on in the scene though.
According to the Apple site, it can decode High@4.1 H.264, which is the Blu-ray standard. Where did you hear it's not powerful enough?
Marty Chinn
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That's the new iPad not the Apple TV.
Ah, stupid me. High@4.0 then. That's pretty uncommon.
A reasonably compressed Blu-ray rip should easily fit under the 25Mbit limit, though.
Does anyone have an URL to the iOS 5.1 IPSW (that works)? The OTA or via iTunes ways do not work for me
http://ios.e-lite.org/
giga linked this a while ago and Ive bookmarked it use in case.
Oh really? Bleh. That's kinda shitty.
I guess the $35 Pi is the better option at this point in time. Although i'm not too sure if it supports 4.1.
Those links do not work ;/
Different site, same url.
I'm starting to suspect so. Perhaps time for a hard reset.
My order has shipped ... yay
is there a chance for it to arrive before the 16th
apparently not ......
Unless Apple is having UPS/Fedex hold these orders in the warehouse until Tuesday or Wednesday, idk how they're planning on guaranteeing a delivery date - only their 2-3 day services offer such service.
LyleLanley
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I'm pretty sure it's already out for the 2nd gen apple tv.
Check your hosts file. Probably from jail breaking.
That defeats the point though. What people were hoping for was to play remuxed MKVs via XBMC. We don't want to transcode.
Besides the profile though, this (and iPad) do not support the necessary bitrates ... and there's no indication whether it can bit stream high res audio over HDMI (though that may just be unadvertised).
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