Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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COMICS February |OT| of Curious (Black) Creators & Curious (Black) Characters!
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MARVEL
Releasing This Week
COMIC OF THE WEEK:
DEC110588 WINTER SOLDIER #1 $2.99
DEC110644 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #679 $3.99
DEC110602 AVENGERS ACADEMY #25 $2.99
DEC110616 AVENGERS X-SANCTION #3 (OF 4) $3.99
DEC110595 DEFENDERS #3 $3.99
DEC110598 FEAR ITSELF FEARLESS #8 (OF 12) $2.99
DEC110655 HULK #48 $2.99
DEC110648 PUNISHER #8 $2.99
DEC110656 THOR DEVIANTS SAGA #4 (OF 5) $3.99
DEC110663 TWELVE #9 (OF 12) (RES) $2.99
DEC110662 TWELVE MUST HAVE #1 $3.99
DEC110672 UNCANNY X-FORCE #21 XREGG $3.99
DEC110669 UNCANNY X-MEN #6 $3.99
DEC110636 VENOM #13 $3.99
DEC110658 VILLAINS FOR HIRE #3 (OF 4) $2.99
DEC110682 X-CLUB #3 (OF 5) $2.99
DEC110674 X-FACTOR #231 XREGG $2.99
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Good thread TToB...but no Static?
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I am, asshole! Well, was. D:
Releasing This Week
COMIC OF THE WEEK:
DEC110588 WINTER SOLDIER #1 $2.99
DEC110644 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #679 $3.99
DEC110602 AVENGERS ACADEMY #25 $2.99
DEC110616 AVENGERS X-SANCTION #3 (OF 4) $3.99
DEC110595 DEFENDERS #3 $3.99
DEC110598 FEAR ITSELF FEARLESS #8 (OF 12) $2.99
DEC110655 HULK #48 $2.99
DEC110648 PUNISHER #8 $2.99
DEC110656 THOR DEVIANTS SAGA #4 (OF 5) $3.99
DEC110663 TWELVE #9 (OF 12) (RES) $2.99
DEC110662 TWELVE MUST HAVE #1 $3.99
DEC110672 UNCANNY X-FORCE #21 XREGG $3.99
DEC110669 UNCANNY X-MEN #6 $3.99
DEC110636 VENOM #13 $3.99
DEC110658 VILLAINS FOR HIRE #3 (OF 4) $2.99
DEC110682 X-CLUB #3 (OF 5) $2.99
DEC110674 X-FACTOR #231 XREGG $2.99
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Good thread TToB...but no Static?
EDIT:
I am, asshole! Well, was. D:
Rafa=FedKilla
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R.I.P Static, the powers at be never wanted you to succeed. Fuck you McDaniel.
parrotbeak
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Ya, that's true, hard to say anything yet. It's just weird for me, not having followed any Transformers comics before, jumping into two new series, so wanted some context for what I was getting into. I had just heard the first MTMTE was good (I think in last month's thread), so picked it up and liked it. I didn't even know there was a second series interlapping until I saw it.
RiD was good, a bit slower and more talky. I like that the characters are rather morally ambiguous; it's more about their choices and different ideas, rather than good vs evil. Not sure if that is standard for IDW Transformers.
Spike Spiegel
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Bleeding Cool is reporting that Brazilian comic artist Al Rio has passed away after an apparent suicide. Rio had done interior and cover work for just about every US comics publisher there is since the 90s, most recently Zenescope, and had quite the reputation as a "good girl" pinup artist.
And on a personal note, I always thought he turned out some spectacular Wonder Woman pinups. Beautiful, without being overtly sexual.
RIP
EDIT: It's now reported he hung himself.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/01/31/remembering-al-rio-by-david-campiti/
And on a personal note, I always thought he turned out some spectacular Wonder Woman pinups. Beautiful, without being overtly sexual.
RIP
EDIT: It's now reported he hung himself.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/01/31/remembering-al-rio-by-david-campiti/
SpiderJerusalem
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well that sucks and so does the Justice League Dark thing
Anticitizen One
Banned
How the hell is this thread an appriciation of black characters in comics and the very best aren't even represented?
All the others are either forced PC garbage or come across as somehwat racist/insulting
All the others are either forced PC garbage or come across as somehwat racist/insulting
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Spawn and best in the same sentence?
DonasaurusRex
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steel is trash, there i said it. And ill take hardware, the original static run, or Icon over black lightning or spawn any day.
Tizoc
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Anyone who hasn't read Christopher Priest's Black Panther need to get around to that. The first 6 or so issues of his run were collected in TPB and it shows just how friggin' badass the character is.
Oh and do check out Secret Invasion: Black Panther, which is also good IMO-
Speaking of Priest: Quantum and Woody. I really need to read that someday lol.
Anyways-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFsz7qyxZSc
Superman's 75+ years condensed into 1 minute
Oh and do check out Secret Invasion: Black Panther, which is also good IMO-
Speaking of Priest: Quantum and Woody. I really need to read that someday lol.
Anyways-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFsz7qyxZSc
Superman's 75+ years condensed into 1 minute
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Is Bullseye a giant skrull in that picture?
krypt0nian
Banned
Reign of the Superman!
All hail, John Henry Irons!!
Father_Brain
Banned
Pretty much all the Skrulls in Secret Invasion had the combined powers of various teams. IIRC, that was a Skrull with the combined skills of a number of street-level Marvel characters (Bullseye, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Moon Knight, etc).
krypt0nian
Banned
Wow, they must have hated that skrull. Lamesauce powers? Right this way...
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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What Daredevil power did it get? Blindness?
Jedeye Sniv
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As a white kid from small town England, I've always been really meh on black characters and the 'streetness' of them. A good character is just that, but bad characters spouting gibberish the writer thinks will sound 'real' just doesn't connect on any level. I remember reading the recently published Ink from DC and it was total bullshit. What should have been a cool story about the Tattooed Man turns into this handwringing treatise on gangs and the streets, and escaping your past and blah blah blah.
Pop culture is so ready to define blackness as such a narrow set of stereotypes. It's insulting to me as a white reader, I bet black people are sick of this shit by now. This conversely is one of the reasons I dig Miles Morales Spidey. He's just a normal little kid. He doesn't talk like an idiot, he has parents who love and respect him, it's refreshing. Yeah, there's still the stuff about his uncle being dodgy, but I don't feel that's as much connected to his skin colour as it is to just him being dodgy. It's good stuff, and I admire Bendis for not making the book "Black Spider-Man" so much as "New Spider-Man".
fake edit: but then again, is this just a white writer just trying to make a black character act 'white'? ah man, i dunno, this stuff fucks with my head when I try to process it...
Anyway, Rob Guillory is easily my favourite black creator, I just love his stuff and colour doesn't even factor into it. He just draws real good. I also used to really like Damion Scott's old stuff with that heavy street-art vibe he had going on. I liked how that was really obviously hip-hop/street influenced and had such amazing dynamism to it, it's a shame he's not really in the industry still.
Pop culture is so ready to define blackness as such a narrow set of stereotypes. It's insulting to me as a white reader, I bet black people are sick of this shit by now. This conversely is one of the reasons I dig Miles Morales Spidey. He's just a normal little kid. He doesn't talk like an idiot, he has parents who love and respect him, it's refreshing. Yeah, there's still the stuff about his uncle being dodgy, but I don't feel that's as much connected to his skin colour as it is to just him being dodgy. It's good stuff, and I admire Bendis for not making the book "Black Spider-Man" so much as "New Spider-Man".
fake edit: but then again, is this just a white writer just trying to make a black character act 'white'? ah man, i dunno, this stuff fucks with my head when I try to process it...
Anyway, Rob Guillory is easily my favourite black creator, I just love his stuff and colour doesn't even factor into it. He just draws real good. I also used to really like Damion Scott's old stuff with that heavy street-art vibe he had going on. I liked how that was really obviously hip-hop/street influenced and had such amazing dynamism to it, it's a shame he's not really in the industry still.
Spike Spiegel
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Is there such a thing as "acting black"?
boom! this should be the post of the month right here. fuck both steel and spawn. hardware is a much better character
and i like to dedicate this post to one of the characters that marvel seems to have forgotten.
strong enough to beat a hyperion, and stand toe to toe with some of the tops, but doesnt get any facetime. nice one marvel.
Spike Spiegel
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Parallax I have no idea who that is.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Bleeding Cool is reporting that Brazilian comic artist Al Rio has passed away after an apparent suicide. Rio had done interior and cover work for just about every US comics publisher there is since the 90s, most recently Zenescope, and had quite the reputation as a "good girl" pinup artist.
And on a personal note, I always thought he turned out some spectacular Wonder Woman pinups. Beautiful, without being overtly sexual.
RIP
EDIT: It's now reported he hung himself.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/01/31/remembering-al-rio-by-david-campiti/
WTF
wow, no words
krypt0nian
Banned
Fuck that, John Henry Irons is on top of this shit.
thank you for proving my point spike. barely anyone knows who he is, despite being one of the most overpowered original characters created in the decade. but they made point to let everyone know that the the "new" spider man in the ultimates is black. fucking backward ass marvel.
the characters name is the blue marvel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Marvel_(Marvel_Comics)
nope. get his ass outta here.
SMH........
I am going to mention Maggot, cause no one else will.
Blue Marvel, written by guy that could actually play him in a movie.
Anticitizen One
Banned
uh I didn't post black lightning shows what you know
krypt0nian
Banned
Just now he sent Hardware's punk ass to get him a sammich.
Post some badass Hardware shots...or right there are none.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Nobody's mentioned John Stewart yet? Yeah he's a legacy version of a white character, but so is Steel.
krypt0nian
Banned
John Stewart's Mosaic is his high point.
Just now he sent Hardware's punk ass to get him a sammich.
Post some badass Hardware shots...or right there are none.
no badass shots of hardware stops steel from being garbage and one of the worst additions to the fall and rise of superman...how? hes been in active publication much longer and doesnt have shit to show for it. his niece is more of a name than he is.
Jedeye Sniv
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Sorry :|
What should I say instead? But really, how else am I supposed to articulate the difference between say... Belle & Sebastian and Flava Flav?
Yeah, I'm being a bit silly in my examples, but the question stands. How do you refer to stereotypical notions of 'white' and 'black' without using those terms? It's a headfuck. Do you just couch it in codewords like 'urban' or 'street' or whatever?
a touching story vs an embarassment against his legacy? flava flav has always been a joke character, but he hammed that shit up to the nth degree in the 00's
why are you comparing the two anyway? that seems like an odd comparison to make.
Steel is the poorman's Technocrat.
Spike Spiegel
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Read the wiki, seems okay... like a mashup of Superman and Dr. Manhattan I guess. Makes sense I've never heard of him, though, if he's only been in one short-lived miniseries.
Oh, and how have we gotten this far without mentioning Fury?
krypt0nian
Banned
Total bullshit. He's a far more dev'd character than most posted.
His appearance in the Superman event, during the Imperiex War wearing the Entropy Aegis made the whole deal.
God damn he's awesome.
His niece.....hahahahaha
Anticitizen One
Banned
No john stewart sucks hes a boring charecter.
The characters I picked in my post were selected because I felt they really stood out on there own and were not made just to pander and make newspaper headlines "DC creates new black hero!" or come off as a blaxploitation character (black lightning, luke cage, etc.). I knew Spawn was going to be controverstial but keep in mind this charecter was HUGE in the 90s arguably one of the biggest and most famous charecters in any medium in that decade and his franchise is still going strong today so obviously he did something right.
Another person I would add to that list is Ultimate Nick Fury:
I like black charecters who are just cool characters and I don't even think about their race at all. I don't want to think "oh hey its that new BLACK charecter DC is shoving down everyones throats *COUGHjasonrushCOUGHCOUGH*
...well, there is a movie, starring Shaq.
This argument over relevance or worthiness of black superheros is pretty ironic, actually. For the most part, they're all pretty much equally ignored or given 2nd or 3rd billing.
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I think he means the band Belle and Sebastian, not the cartoon with the boy and the dog in the French Alps.(awesome cartoon)
How about this. Instead of describing flava flav as "black music" and B&S as "white music", you call them rap, and alt-rock? Since neither is definitive of their entire races' musical milieu? And the same goes for...yadda yadda blah blah blah?
It takes a writer willing to give a shit. Bendis, as much as people demonize him did awesome stuff with Luke Cage, and of course Priest with BP. Of course a black character getting a push= being rammed down folks throat, any other character is just getting a pushed.
i will agree to this. although not as bad as asians in comics, we are criminally pushed the hell back when it comes to it. being on the hot seat when mcduffie was making his team and when brother voodoo was chosen as the next sorceror supreme really showed how unwanted we are in comics.
notworksafe
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A true classic.
Anticitizen One
Banned
I agree!
If they ever do a Death of Superman/Reign of the Supermen arc I hope Shaquiel O'Neil reprises his role
asian women = very welcome
asian men = extra lamp from Ikea you don't remember ordering.
I liked what they did with the new Atom, though I wish they'd cut it out with legacy shit, especially when replacing someone I actually fucking like, like Ray Palmer. Create an original character, maybe? I forgot, that requires the sacrifice of actual virgins. This new Ray, he's Korean-American which is cool, but again, DC can't seem to do something new. Just retreads of forgotten characters or offbrand pickups they won in a legal battle somewhere.
edit: asian villain of the week is also welcome.
dat American race based social structure...
welcome to the club. is it so damn hard to ask for original characters?
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