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COMICS February |OT| of Curious (Black) Creators & Curious (Black) Characters!

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Slayven

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asian women = very welcome
asian men = extra lamp from Ikea you don't remember ordering.

I liked what they did with the new Atom, though I wish they'd cut it out with legacy shit, especially when replacing someone I actually fucking like, like Ray Palmer. Create an original character, maybe? I forgot, that requires the sacrifice of actual virgins. This new Ray, he's Korean-American which is cool, but again, DC can't seem to do something new. Just a retreads of forgotten characters or offbrand pickups they won in a legal battle somewhere.

edit: asian villain of the week is also welcome.
dat American race based social structure...

Hey they brought the rights to Red Circle, and that worked ou........
 

Jedeye Sniv

Banned
a touching story vs an embarassment against his legacy? flava flav has always been a joke character, but he hammed that shit up to the nth degree in the 00's

why are you comparing the two anyway? that seems like an odd comparison to make.

Well Belle & Sebastian are the whitest thing I could think of, and Flava Flav is just cartoonishly 'black'. But yeah, I should just refrain from discussing race on the internet, it never comes across the way I mean it!
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Well Belle & Sebastian are the whitest thing I could think of, and Flava Flav is just cartoonishly 'black'. But yeah, I should just refrain from discussing race on the internet, it never comes across the way I mean it!

no... theres something wrong with your comparison. why did you compare a book to a "musician"? or am i missing something?

Yeah he was good, also Amadeus Cho grew on me like a fungus.

cho is the shit! number 3 in the science squad!

if marvel was smart, they would steal that idea.
 
DC has plenty of original asian charecters:

Rising Sun:
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Katana:
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Super-Young Team
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The Great Ten
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So Tell me another one!
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
DC has plenty of original asian charecters:

So Tell me another one!

tell you another one about what? katana is the only relevant name that you brought up. super young team(and their horrible names) are nothing more than final crisis excess. i dont know shit about rising sun, and the same can be said about the great ten(despite the fact that they were introduced in 52.) you can name asian superheroes. but what does that mean when no one knows who they are? (and the fact that all but 1 of them doesnt exist anymore.)
 

tm24

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Yeah he was good, also Amadeus Cho grew on me like a fungus.

Totally forgot about him. Nico from Runaways is great too.

Great Ten was such a great series. Bedard knocked that series out of the park. Shame they had to cut down on the series, but I loved the crap out of Accomplished Perfect Physician and Thundermind. Still mad the series ended short of having a full issue devoted to Socialist Red Guardsman.
 
tell you another one about what? katana is the only relevant name that you brought up. super young team(and their horrible names) are nothing more than final crisis excess. i dont know shit about rising sun, and the same can be said about the great ten(despite the fact that they were introduced in 52.) you can name asian superheroes. but what does that mean when no one knows who they are? (and the fact that all but 1 of them doesnt exist anymore.)
What about Grunge?
 
Totally forgot about him. Nico from Runaways is great too.

Great Ten was such a great series. Bedard knocked that series out of the park. Shame they had to cut down on the series, but I loved the crap out of Accomplished Perfect Physician and Thundermind. Still mad the series ended short of having a full issue devoted to Socialist Red Guardsman.

Shit I'm re-reading this tonight!
 

besada

Banned
Outside of Milestone, DC doesn't really have many (any) memorable black characters.

DC doesn't become racially mixed until the 30th Century when Tyroc, second Invisible Kid, and Computo II show up.

Weirdly, of all the new Bat books, I'm liking Batwing best. They'll probably cancel it.

Bronze Tiger kicks ass, but he's underutilized since Suicide Squad ended. I'm not even going to discuss the new Amanda Waller. Firestorm is half-black and half-hillbilly jock.
 
tell you another one about what? katana is the only relevant name that you brought up. super young team(and their horrible names) are nothing more than final crisis excess. i dont know shit about rising sun, and the same can be said about the great ten(despite the fact that they were introduced in 52.) you can name asian superheroes. but what does that mean when no one knows who they are? (and the fact that all but 1 of them doesnt exist anymore.)

huh? Not sure about rising sun but the others are still active even in the new 52. Augutus General in Iron is an integral member of Justice League International and Shiny Happy Aquazon is in Batman Inc. for heaven sake!
 

Slayven

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DC doesn't become racially mixed until the 30th Century when Tyroc, second Invisible Kid, and Computo II show up.

Weirdly, of all the new Bat books, I'm liking Batwing best. They'll probably cancel it.

Bronze Tiger kicks ass, but he's underutilized since Suicide Squad ended. I'm not even going to discuss the new Amanda Waller. Firestorm is half-black and half-hillbilly jock.

Lol, Tyroc's original origin had him being a member of a race of black people that got tired of bullshit and moved to a new dimension.
 

besada

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Lol, Tyroc's original origin had him being a member of a race of black people that got tired of bullshit and moved to a new dimension.

Yeah, but he's gotten less offensively stupid over time. If we're going to toss black characters whose original versions were awful, that means tossing nearly all the black characters with a history in comics. Still, I wanted to be Tyroc back in the 70’s. Giant fro, white spandex, and singing voice that could split dimensions and all.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
huh? Not sure about rising sun but the others are still active even in the new 52. Augutus General in Iron is an integral member of Justice League International and Shiny Happy Aquazon is in Batman Inc. for heaven sake!

i am truly shocked. but not really.
 
asian women = very welcome
asian men = extra lamp from Ikea you don't remember ordering.

I liked what they did with the new Atom, though I wish they'd cut it out with legacy shit, especially when replacing someone I actually fucking like, like Ray Palmer. Create an original character, maybe? I forgot, that requires the sacrifice of actual virgins. This new Ray, he's Korean-American which is cool, but again, DC can't seem to do something new. Just retreads of forgotten characters or offbrand pickups they won in a legal battle somewhere.

edit: asian villain of the week is also welcome.
dat American race based social structure...

This is why I'm dropping Blue Beetle. The ethnic dialogue is awful. I expected it to get better. I shouldn't have been so Naive
 
chris claremont was always pretty good at including diverse characters in x-men

although that was partly because len wein and dave cockrum purposefully introduced a diverse team

still though...claremont made them real characters
 
DC doesn't become racially mixed until the 30th Century when Tyroc, second Invisible Kid, and Computo II show up.

Weirdly, of all the new Bat books, I'm liking Batwing best. They'll probably cancel it.

Bronze Tiger kicks ass, but he's underutilized since Suicide Squad ended. I'm not even going to discuss the new Amanda Waller. Firestorm is half-black and half-hillbilly jock.


I'm not going to discuss the new Amanda Waller either.

But I am going to do this:

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I miss the Wall.
 

akira28

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I'm not going to discuss the new Amanda Waller either.

Mother******. They made her look like...what the fuck? What...aw hell no. No. Fuck no. What?! This 52 shit has got to go. Oh I wish I could just go up there with a bat. Buy a bus ticket to NY and break some shit.

It's like they took strong black women, set up archetypes and now they've settled between Angela Bassett and Michelle Obama. It's just a symptom of the larger problem with DC.

The Wall wasn't sassy, she was a stone cold witch with brass balls the size of monuments. She was scary.

AntiCitizen: I'm talking about characters they actually give a damn about. Not just fill-ins. I'm also a great fan of the Perfect Physician, but no one seems to want to put real effort into those characters beyond a one shot, or like I said, background character status.
 
Thread subscribed. I knew there was a reason why we've gotten along over the years, TToB :p

damn, great thread bandit

stroman for life

Thanks guys.

Not much time left tonight.

Just wanted to put a shout out to my favorite DC Asian, the mythical giant, busty, lesbian Asian - Grace Choi!

  • Boobs - CHECK!
  • Muscles - CHECK!
  • Tattoos - CHECK!

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WIN!

Oh wait, she's not in the New 52. Screw you DC. >:|

Spawn is a joke character. Plus he's white now IIRC. Only good thing to come out of Spawn is McFarlane letting Capullo hone his craft.

Blade is cooler in his limited film career, very different from his comic source material; and Marvel failed to capitalize on the success of the films with him. I hope the anime is all sorts of badass.

Black Nick Fury -- Ultimate Marvel came out long after I gave up on Vanilla Marvel, and I'm with Parallax on this. MAKE NEW DAMNED CHARACTERS!

This chickenshit palette swap of characters is just lame and speaks volumes to the failure of the market. The only way to make Miles Morales a character people will buy is to make him Spiderman? We've had a Spiderman, a Mexican Spiderman (2099), an Indian Spiderman, etc. etc.

Another book I need to check out due to Victor Ibanez's hotness on the art chores comes out tomorrow:

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Yea perhaps sassy was a poor choice of words on my part. I meant to say "the stereotypical fat black woman with attitude" that you see in movie trailers all the time.
 
It looks like the long-rumored Watchmen prequels may be announced tomorrow - Rich Johnston posted this a few hours ago, after which JMS apparently posted the Watchmen variant of the new DC logo on his Facebook page before taking it down.

I know the idea of Watchmen without Alan Moore is blasphemous to a lot of folks, but with the rumored/leaked creative teams (Darwyn Cooke supposedly overseeing the overall project and possibly writing/drawing a Rorschach miniseries, with Andy Kubert, JG Jones, and Amanda Conner all but confirmed via leaked art to be respectively drawing Nite Owl, Comedian, and Silk Spectre books), it's hard not to be interested. Though I'll probably avoid whatever JMS is involved with.
 

beat

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and Static Shock just sounds like it was killed by wild incompetence.
Astonishing incompetence, actually. http://johnrozum.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-i-quit-static-shock.html Essentially, the writer of the new Static Shock, a longtime Milestone hand, was almost entirely sidelined by the editor and artist, neither of who knew Static that well or had any good ideas.
To say I was disappointed with how things turned out is an understatement. From the first issue on, I was essentially benched by Harvey Richards and artist/writer Scott McDaniel. All of my ideas and suggestions were met with disdain, and Scott McDaniel lectured me on how my method for writing was wrong because it wasn't what the Robert McKee screenwriting book he read told him was the way to do things. The man who'd never written anything was suddenly more expert than me and the editor was agreeing with him. Scott had also never read a Static comic book, nor seen the cartoon series, yet was telling me that my dialogue didn't sound true to the character and would "fix it."

There was more concern about seeing that the title sold and didn't get cancelled than there was in telling good stories and having something coherent to bring readers in. This is what led Harvey to insist on the stuff with the two Sharon's and cutting off Static's arm. He had no answers for how to resolve these things, but thought it would keep reader's wowed enough to stick with the series. This, too, was frustrating. It was a lot of grasping at straws and trying to second guess what would keep it selling. It was decided that "bigger action" on every page of every issue was the key.

I always liked Night Thrasher.
Obligatory: Dwayne McDuffie's 1989 proposal for Teenage Negro Ninja Thrashers.
 
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Sabre - Paul Gulacy and Don McGregor created one of the earliest graphic novels, one featuring a black lead!

I just started reading this today. Really amazing from a conceptual standpoint. I would describe it as Mad Max meets A Princess of Mars, with a dash of blaxploitation. What a fucking hidden gem.
 

ReiGun

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Y'all know which black hero I'm repping. (Peep the avatar. Hit the theme music.) "Man Without Fear/Most Dangerous Man Alive" ends next week, and while it wasn't a perfect run (the crossover event issues sucked and really hurt the book for a few months. And even I'll admit the premise doesn't make much sense), I friggin loved the book. If only I weren't, like, the only person on Earth reading it. :(

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Now to see about getting all of Christopher Priest's run. I was reading it back when I had my Marvel online sub, and would like to finish.

I've also been staring down this Marvel Masterworks collection on Amazon, but it's like 60 bucks. :/

I'm going to try and read as much of the stuff in the OP this month as I can. It all looks really good. "Gold Digger" especially looks like it'd be right up my alley.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Y'all know which black hero I'm repping. (Peep the avatar. Hit the theme music.) "Man Without Fear/Most Dangerous Man Alive" ends next week, and while it wasn't a perfect run (the crossover event issues sucked and really hurt the book for a few months. And even I'll admit the premise doesn't make much sense), I friggin loved the book. If only I weren't, like, the only person on Earth reading it. :(

1399409-bp_cover_super.jpg


Now to see about getting all of Christopher Priest's run. I was reading it back when I had my Marvel online sub, and would like to finish.

I've also been staring down this Marvel Masterworks collection on Amazon, but it's like 60 bucks. :/

I'm going to try and read as much of the stuff in the OP this month as I can. It all looks really good. "Gold Digger" especially looks like it'd be right up my alley.
I was the number 2 reading that book. And although I would have preferred no damn guest spots(fucking storm) it was a good read.
 
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